Mass shootings

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(03-01-2018, 12:58 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: This is the best post in the thread, by a large degree.  I can't tell you how many phone calls I've fielded from distraught mothers who want help with their child, almost always their son.  We can refer them to voluntary services, but they're just that, voluntary, and these mothers have generally lost control of their children.  Most of the time, during the course of my conversation with them, it becomes very apparent that the parent is not actually parenting their child.  They aren't holding them accountable or they are inconsistent in doing so.  I'll give them advice on how to do so and you'd be amazed how many times they'll say something the effect of, "I never thought of that".

For the parents that are doing their job and it's just not working there are extremely limited options, and the social worker quoted in the link you provided relayed the only real way to get government provided intervention, have the minor charged with a crime so they can be placed on probation.  As every other intervention is voluntary, this is currently the only way to impose mandatory intervention.  Having a mental health focused "probation", meaning participation is compulsory, would be an excellent use of government funds.

As a further aside to the above, I noticed that the women in the story was a single mother.  I think this is a significant part of our national problem; fathers have been seen as a less than necessary parent.  This is the fault of both women and men in our society.  Men, for walking away from their responsibilities towards their children, and women for thinking they can meet the needs of children without male support.  Men and women are different, they provide different things for a child.  They are also of equal importance in my mind and our system does not reflect that.  How often do women automatically get the children and the house in a divorce?  This is changing, a bit, but we all know the answer.  The idea that the mother is more important is subtly engrained in our society, and it is affecting our children.  A committed father is extremely important, it provides boys with a model for how a man should conduct themselves and it provides daughters with a template for the type of man they'll want to be involved with as an adult.  Remove the father and you are setting yourself up for failure.  As I said, both genders are responsible for this failure and we need to start having this discussion with that as the foundation.

Very well said sir.  I agree 100%.