11-08-2021, 09:23 PM
(11-08-2021, 07:43 PM)Dill Wrote: Unh hunh. And I was specifically relating jury selection to the "reasonable person test." E.g., the Arbery defense went for as many "reasonable" WHITE jurors as possible, figuring they would be "most sympathetic," and Georgia law can't stop them.
Jury selection was decisive in the Zimmerman case too.
If we move beyond lawyer 101, perhaps the goal is not simply to get a "reasonable" juror but a biased one.
Quote:??? You are disputing that fraternizing with armed militia during riots is bad judgment on the part of police, because an unvetted, civilian "friendly face" is a "welcome sight"??
Handing out bottled water is fraternizing? Also, are they all of the sudden a militia? Seeing as how anti 2A types are constantly asking "what militia are you in" it's rather comforting to know how easy they are to form. I suppose that's one anti 2A argument out of the way.
Quote:If you are owning this bias then, really, which of us is “painting” law enforcement as irretrievably biased???
How were they biased?
Quote:Surely it can't be the guy arguing that Police don't everywhere and always see armed groups of white men as welcome help during civil unrest.
No, like most things context matters.
Quote:At least one of those legally carrying and peaceful protestors was involved in the plot to kidnap and kill the governor of Michigan. I'm pretty sure that would endanger her life.
During the protest? If not then you've raised yet another irrelevancy.
Quote:I wonder how many also stormed the Capitol on 1/6?
I don't know. Neither do you. But not knowing has certainly not stopped you in this thread.
Quote:You have reminded jj and me that not ALL of the thousands protesting at the Capitol of 1/6 were engaged in breaching the building and assaulting police officers, like that is THE very important thing to remember about this attempt to stop a president's legal certification and keep the loser in power, first time ever in U.S. history. GOP stalwarts pledged allegiance to a flag carried at that insurrection, as they set about campaigning to win the VA governorship, a campaign you tout as a model for other GOP campaigns and a sign Trump's influence is lessening.
If it's important to note that not all anti law enforcement protestors were burning down building, looting stores and assaulting people then this distinction is equally important. Or is that all of a sudden not important to you any longer?
Quote:Aren't the "liberal" media doing something similar to you when they call a protest "mostly peaceful," separating the violent actors from the majority of peaceful protestors? But you want them to emphasize the violence?
Did they emphasize it on 01/06? I'm asking for consistency, that's all.
But, quite honestly, you keep trying to draw attention away from the actual thread topic, which is the Rittenhouse trial. Given your performance on that subject I can't say your reluctance to discuss it further is surprising, but please forgive me for not indulging your meandering off topic any further than I already have.
