Did anyone else catch Gruden's comment about our D in the first 2 or 3 series? We basically ran a very vanilla cover 2 with zero blitzing or disguised coverage. Maybe its me being hopeful, but I'm wondering if that wasn't at the request of Lovie Smith. Let the rookie gain some confidence and bring him along slowly. Its not out of character for coaches to make these kinds of requests in the preseason. Often you will ask your opponent to run plays or formations to help evaluate your team during the preseason. Lovie and Marvin are friends.... so I thought maybe that explains some of the lack of "creativity" from our D. Once we did switch over to less disguised coverages and dialing up blitzes, Winston started to show signs of being a rookie.
This should not be read as an excuse. I thought we blew some very basic coverages, and looked downright awful at tackling. All I am saying here is the way the Bucs moved the ball was not concerning to me in any way other than the repeated missed tackles.
What did people think of Dre's performance? I saw at least 3 instances where he got beat pretty good. No way this secondary gets better with these guys. These are downgrades from Hall and T-New.
McCarron showed far better leadership than Dalton ever has in leading the team back from that abortion of a game with an 80 yard TD drive. Does anyone find it troubling that Marvin/Whit said they "passed" the leadership baton to Andy Dalton? Maybe he's just not cut out to be a leader. You can't force somebody to be something they're not. How can you be a leader and tell other people what to do -- call them out for their mistakes -- when you're constantly sailing interceptions left, right, and center? (and you come off as a complete cornball but that's another story) I kind of laughed when I read about Dalton "chewing out" Bodine for snap issues. At least he's doing that during practice and not during games. For Dalton it's the reverse -- front-runner when everything is going right, absolutely panics and self-destructs when the chips are down. We're in serious trouble if this is who we appointed as "leaders."
A lot of people blame Green, anybody but the QB, but when you have "fake leaders" running the show, people trying to assume roles they're not good at, does this not hurt team morale and have a trickle-down effect? I am 100% sure elite players would not be making so many sloppy errors if Peyton Manning (even the hobbled, no-feeling-in-fingertips form) were running the show. He just wouldn't allow it. When Dalton hits you with the "Aww shucks, please stop that" try-hard "leadership," it rings hollow.
A.J. Green is obviously no longer a top 10 receiver. 1 mistake in a preseason game confirms this. Andy Dalton sucks. 1 bad INT and a couple other poor decisions in a preseason game brings the confirmation level to 100%. Offensive Line has proven to not be very good. PFF has lied about their ability over a 4 year span because of 1 preseason game. Guenther runs a vanilla defense. Again, meaningless games have proven this to be true. We've never seen a team run vanilla in the preseason, right? Gio sucks now. In a game where even Hill couldn't hit a hole, I'm sure Gio's statsheet tells the entire story!
It's easy to sum it up. We're just talkin' about preseason. Listen, we talking 'bout preseason. Not the regular season, not the regular season, we talkin' about preseason. Not a regular season game, not the regular season game that they go out there and die for, we talkin' about preseason, man. How silly is this when we're talkin' about preseason???
Why is Dalton unable to progress through his options and make a decision to throw to the player with the best chance to catch a pass and make a play?
I watched the game, he didn't have a lot of time, i get the o line stunk. But when he did, he still cuts off 3/4th the field and 3/4ths his pass catchers. He drops back. Locks immediately to one option..and stubbornly chucks a timing pattern to a guy he PRAYS will magically get open in 4 seconds.
It's the same way hes always played vs cleveland. Same way he's played In nearly every primitive game, same way he played in the Pro Bowl, and the same way he's played in every playoff game.
How can we have a QB who is unable to do things most D1 College QBS do with ease? There are 32 starting NFL jobs in the world. Why has this franchise hitched their wagon to one who has decided who he's going to throw too before he takes a snap?
Look at Rodger, Brees, Brady, Wilson, Ben, Flacco,...they check mutiple WRS and TES before throwing, heck even rookies like Winston do it.
Why can't Andy? He doesn't even do it when he has time to throw. Locks in, blindly hurls it. Same results.
It's very concerning. Cause it's not something more time or practice can fix. It's what he is. Scated, panicked and a one read arm.
If we really are OK with have a 1 read qb...why not at least get a guy with a better arm? And a better haircut,
Our OL got absolutely manhandled by the BUCs. That was a pathetic display by the great Paul Alexander's crew. For the life of me I don't see how a front can get bullied that way, and outside of right tackle it was the 1st line.
Sadly this was probably supposed to be the tune up for the opener due to the strange preseason schedule. Bet that changes!
Posted by: Daddy-O - 08-25-2015, 08:40 AM - Forum: JUNGLE NOISE
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Our OL got absolutely manhandled by the BUCs. That was a pathetic display by the great Paul Alexander's crew. For the life of me I don't see how a front can get bullied that way, and outside of right tackle it was the 1st line.
Sadly this was probably supposed to be the tune up for the opener due to the strange preseason schedule. Bet that changes!
No im not blaming him for the tip pass, pick six so shush.
I'm not blaming him for the piss poor, pass protection.
What I did see was the same old Andy Dalton that drops back, closes his eyes and chucks the ball up to AJ Green regardless of how much time he has to throw.
He doesn't check down. He doesn't go through progressions. He can't hit Sanu on a wide open out route with no pressure in his face.
