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  Thoughts on possible coaching changes
Posted by: SunsetBengal - 11-26-2024, 09:25 AM - Forum: JUNGLE NOISE - Replies (41)

Seems like this reporter is feeling about the same as most of us, it's time for Anarumo and Pollack to go.

https://atozsports.com/nfl/cincinnati-bengals-news/bengals-mailbag-coaches-on-the-hot-seat-cam-taylor-britts-quandary-and-other-answers-to-critical-questions/#google_vignette

Quote:12 weeks and 11 games are in the books for the Cincinnati Bengals, though most want to move on to another chapter already.

2024 has been an exercise of frustration for the Bengals and their fans. Key decisions have backfired, great individual years are going to waste, and the top teams of the AFC have separated from Cincinnati not just from a roster standpoint, but organizationally. Chess vs Checkers in a nutshell.

That's why when I asked what was on your mind this week, you hit me with the big questions. I suppose there isn't much else to discuss at this juncture anyways. Here are the questions I received from the hellscape formerly known as Twitter.

Why not get right into it? I said my answer not too long ago. The Bengals need to either start guaranteeing more money in their contracts and hiring more outside help for the personnel department, or they need a new director of the department. It's a big job Tobin has considering the uniqueness of it, and while he doesn't deserve all the blame for how the roster has turned out, his shortcomings regarding trench players across multiple coaches is among the weakest in the NFL. It's a clear problem that's gone on for far too long.

Tobin's biggest piece of leverage is the fact that replacing him isn't exactly a dream gig. He's still limited by the resources given to him from above. He's not even officially a general manager. Finding someone better who's willing to accept those terms is probably a tall task. It might be needed if things don't get better here soon.


"Do you foresee any staff changes? (Not Zac Taylor). Lou Anarumo? Frank Pollack? It especially feels like Pollack should be on the hot seat." - @WowStik

There's simply no way they can run this entire staff back should they fall short of the playoffs. The defense is bad and it's not only because DJ Reader and Jessie Bates III are no longer here. Players still here from 2021-22 have regressed and most draft picks on that side of the ball since then haven't developed as planned. It's an all-around personnel and coaching disaster, but still, the unit shouldn't be this bad. It's the main reason why they've lost so many games this year. Anarumo should be held accountable barring a strong final six games.

As for Pollack, you're right. I've been in his corner on the grounds that he's been handicapped by personnel decisions, but he's responsible for putting together a run game that works with his players. There's no stability in the run game and there hasn't been in two years. It's time for a new direction there, along with some new guards.


"If they were to fire Zac Taylor and hire a new head coach, which coaches do you think should stay vs which are most likely to stay?" - @JeremyW48542628

I'd try my best to keep the majority of the offensive staff sans Pollack. Offensive coordinator Dan Pitcher, running backs coach Justin Hill, wide receivers coach Troy Walters, and tight ends coach James Casey have all done solid jobs. Obviously a new coach would want his own guys, but keeping at least two names from this group would be a solid base to start off.


"Would you sit Joe Burrow and Ja'Marr Chase the rest of the year if we are eliminated? They’re having historical years but a late season injury impacting 2025 would be a disaster. If it’s Chase the FO would probably use an injury against him in negotiations which would be a disaster." - @Truedeyy

I'd leave it up to them, and they'd obviously want to play. Burrow is never going to want to sit out games when two of his four years have been disrupted by injuries. Chase has his own personal goals he wants to cross off his sticky notes on his bathroom mirror.

Preventing major injuries in games that don't really matter is good in the grand scheme of things. The only counter I have is this: Is 2025 being viewed as a year of contention? This team looks at least another year away from getting back to a deep postseason run. Sitting Burrow and Chase out for the sake of next year, to me, feels fruitless. I suppose that says a lot on its own.

"Thoughts on the Bengals moving Cam Taylor-Britt to safety?" - @JonnyBengal

"What's the long-term answer at safety? We know it's not Vonn Bell and Geno Stone. Do they fix this with a high draft pick or a free agent signing? Could they move Cam Taylor-Britt? Has Jordan Battle done enough to earn the spot that Bell presently plays?" - @bengallmanbros

Combining these two for obvious reasons. For starters, how hilarious would it be for the Bengals to draft Dax Hill as a safety and Taylor-Britt as a cornerback with back-to-back picks and have them swap positions three years later? What a fitting bullet point that would be on the resume of this coaching-personnel staff partnership.

Taylor-Britt looks lost out on the field right now and I struggle to believe moving him to a position where he has to think more is going to help him. I think when his head's on straight, he could handle it and his athletic traits would allow him to make the transition, but the reason why folks wanted Leon Hall to make the switch all those years ago is because it was a way to hide his declining athleticism. Movement ability is all Taylor-Britt has because he looks mentally cooked.

Bell is certainly not in the long-term plans and Stone was only signed for one-year longer. I think the latter has slowly improved in this defense, but not enough to prevent an actual upgrade from being added. I have to believe Battle is a starter next year.


"Why does the Bengals defensive staff hate Myles Murphy?" - @Jom112

I assume for the same reasons I wasn't tremendously high on him out of Clemson. The guy can't finish around the quarterback. You love his get-off and he shows his work on film. You can see the process trying to be applied. It just isn't cohesive enough and he gets stuck on blocks too long. Is Joseph Ossai considerably better? No, but the difference isn't gaping.  

When the Bengals start actually drafting players who win as a pass rushers, not just guys who are built within the physical parameters they like, then the pass rush will improve.


"Was the Bengals’ pass rush in the Commanders game the worst in the NFL of any defense this season (especially considering it was a home primetime game)?" - @stpalme1

It's arguable that their loss to the Philadelphia Eagles was even worse. Pro Football Focus credited Cincinnati with 14 pressures and three sacks against Washington. Against a banged-up Philly offensive line? Four pressures and zero sacks! Also, did you know the Panthers only generated eight total pressures against the Chicago Bears earlier this year? We're talking about the same Bears with a terrible offensive line.

Somehow, the floor can always be lower.

Being a bad team is typically an advantage against Mike Tomlin. It just never seems to matter when the bad team is Cincinnati, sans late 2020.  

As much as it pains Bengals fans to hear this, the Steelers are legit. Tomlin's decision to bench Justin Fields for Russell Wilson has given the offense an actual passing game for the first time since the final years of Ben Roethlisberger's competence. George Pickens has been fully unlocked, and the offensive line is playing good enough.

The same stars on defense are playing like stars, too. Nothing needs to be said about T.J. Watt and his goons. The only point of weakness worth mentioning are the cornerbacks. I expect Ja'Marr Chase and Tee Higgins to have favorable matchups, but will that matter if Watt and Co. are in Burrow's face the whole game?


"If Mike Brown isn't in charge anymore, does anything change from a contractual standpoint with players?" - @BeardedBagel

There's an evergreen answer for questions surrounding the transition from Mike to his kin. The answer is Mike has taught his daughter, Katie Blackburn, and son, Paul Brown, what they know. Katie and Troy Blackburn handle the contracts, as they've done so for a while. Their unwillingness to emulate standard guarantee structures are their doing. It's a family philosophy. It's learned.

They're caring people. Many players and coaches can attest to that. They also think that justifies not keeping up with the times. Katie's daughters, Elizabeth and Caroline, are the hopeful exceptions. We'll see if their influence continues to increase.

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  Bengals trying to create a spark..
Posted by: SunsetBengal - 11-26-2024, 09:03 AM - Forum: JUNGLE NOISE - Replies (37)

..by bringing Ping Pong tables back to the locker room.

I guess nothing fixes a porous defense like a little hand-eye coordination and reflex therapy!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/bengals-make-significant-change-to-locker-room-during-bye-week-with-hopes-of-turning-season-around/ar-AA1uKtEf?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=0ef3146e78d34109b22b6bd3b1489934&ei=36

Quote:Zac Taylor was adamant when he said the Cincinnati Bengals would not make drastic changes during their Week 12 bye week. And while he was true to his word, the Bengals head coach did make one notable change, one he hopes can help turn his 4-7 team's season around.

When Bengals players returned from their bye week, they were welcomed back into the locker room by ping pong tables, a staple of Cincinnati's locker room for years until this past summer, when they were not part of the team's new locker room.

"Yeah, just creating energy in the locker room," Taylor said when asked about the decision to bring ping pong tables back to the locker room. "You know, it's December football now, and we need everyone to be at their best. Need everyone to have energy when they walk into the locker room. That creates some competitiveness."

Taylor is also hoping that the ping pong tables strengthen team camaraderie. It appears that the ping pong tables are already making an impact, as about a dozen players continued to use the ping pong tables on Monday after the team had been excused for the day.

"I just want guys to interact, and that's one way to do it," Taylor said. "It's one way to create some energy and get guys up and active."

While the ping pong tables may build camaraderie, they unfortunately can't fix a Bengals defense that struggled through the season's first 11 games. While its offense (led by quarterback Joe Burrow and wideout Ja'Marr Chase) has been among the NFL's best this season, Cincinnati's defense is currently 28th in the NFL in points allowed and 31st in red zone efficiency.

Despite their record and their defense's shortcomings, the Bengals did open as 2.5-point favorites for Sunday's home game against the 8-3 Steelers, who are looking to make amends for last Thursday night's upset loss in Cleveland.

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  Week 13 Injury Report
Posted by: pally - 11-25-2024, 04:19 PM - Forum: JUNGLE NOISE - Replies (29)

Sheldon Rankins, Sam Hubbard, and Logan Wilson are missing from the first practice back from the bye

Tee Higgins working on rehab field

Orlando Brown with position group

Also present...Hard Knocks crew

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  Art Rooney Sportsmanship Award-Mike Hilton
Posted by: pally - 11-25-2024, 03:04 PM - Forum: JUNGLE NOISE - Replies (2)

Mike Hilton is the Bengals nominee for the Art Rooney Sportsmanship Award. Good choice...Mike is a good guy

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  Perspective?
Posted by: Whacked - 11-24-2024, 12:44 PM - Forum: JUNGLE NOISE - Replies (55)

Fellow miserable Bengals fans ….

I’m consistently guilty of being in the camp of piling on when we lose - driven from disappointment, but some perspective here:

The Bengals lost to:

Pats by 6 pts
*This one is inexcusable !!

Chiefs by 3 points (last minute)
*They are 9-1 and playoff-bound

Washington by 5 points (close game overall)
*They are 7-4 and playoff-bound

Rats by 3 points (last minute)
Rats by 1 points (last minute)
*They are 7-4 and playoff-bound

Eagles by 20 points — this one is inexcusable
*They are 8-2 and playoff-bound

Chargers by 7 points (last minute)
*They are 7-3 and playoff-bound

I know the record tells us - we are exactly what it says we are and we came up short when it mattered. That said, we hung w all of these playoff teams (except for Philly).

All of this said, we have also only beaten garbage teams sooo there’s that too Sad

This team is average at best but a few tweaks and we may be ok next year. Not sure we need a giant overhaul - other than on D - to be competitive.

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  This team could be worse than we think.
Posted by: casear2727 - 11-23-2024, 10:58 PM - Forum: JUNGLE NOISE - Replies (44)

Im not sure how to delete a thread, but mods feel free.  

This team is mind numbing right now.  

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  PFF Grades - Week 11 Chargers
Posted by: WeezyBengal - 11-22-2024, 05:56 PM - Forum: JUNGLE NOISE - Replies (11)

A little late on this, if anyone cares. That Khalil Herbert trade is looking real nice. 5 snaps in 2 games since we've gotten him. What a waste. 

Good to see Josh Newton and Turner shine. Really sucks Turner got hurt, he would have been fun to evaluate him and see him continue to grow the rest of the season. I am really interested to see what Newton can bring to the table. 

It'd be massive if Turner and Newton end up being above average corners. 

Ossai continue to play above average. Would you guys explore extending him after this year? I find it concerning as hell that he continues to outsnap Murphy our former first round pick from last year. 


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  Week 16 Flexed
Posted by: pally - 11-22-2024, 01:06 PM - Forum: JUNGLE NOISE - Replies (21)

The Thursday night game with the Browns has been moved to Sunday at 1PM on Fox.

Broncos-Chargers is the new Thursday night game.

It is the first Thursday night flex

And of course, it is the 2nd time this season the Bengals have been moved out of prime time

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  If Cleveland Beat Steelers, So Can Bengals
Posted by: kevin - 11-22-2024, 02:23 AM - Forum: JUNGLE NOISE - Replies (34)

This proves Steelers are not all that. Bengals have only been beat bad by one team this year, The Eagles. Bengals can follow up Cleveland beating Pittsburgh with Cincinnati beating Pittsburgh. Ohio all over Pittsburgh back to back.

GO BENGALS

Tiger

Pitt Sux

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  Who Would You Keep
Posted by: kevinsea - 11-21-2024, 11:49 PM - Forum: JUNGLE NOISE - Replies (23)

If you were in charge of the Bengals Roster who on the Current Roster would you keep

My Picks
Burrow
Chase
Higgins
Chase Brown
OBJ
Mims
All
Karras ?
Iosivas ?

Hendrickson
Turner
Newton
Jenkins
Jackson
Wilson
Tycen Anderson
Pratt ?
Battle ?
BJ Hill
Dax Hill ?
Rekhow

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