Get absolutely shut down by the back-to-back-to-back NL leader in Losses whose had a 5.67 ERA since 2021..... light up a guy with a 1.88 ERA.

Just doesn't make sense. Lol

Elly has now been struck out 9x by a pitch not in the zone. Leads all of MLB. It’s getting really old.

There are 6 teams in front of us in the WC race. Our chances are low

Was sorta thankful for the second game getting rained out today. We scored 9 runs in the afternoon game, so I was fully expecting 2 runs or less for Martinez and the bullpen in the evening game. Make up date is in September!

Stats of recent former Reds pitchers
2.51 ERA - 4W 1L - 38 G - 57.1 IP - 16 ER - 7 HR - 62 K - 15 BB - Luke Weaver New York Yankees
3.57 ERA - 8W 6L - 17 G/GS - 93.2 IP - 37 ER - 15 HR - 80 K - 27 BB - Ben Lively Cleveland
3.30 ERA - 6W 2L - 49 G - 60 IP - 22 ER - 6 HR - 53 K - 17 BB - Derek Law Washington
4.22 AAA ERA - 3W 2L - 17 G 15 GS - 59.2 IP - 42 R - 28 ER - 8 HR - 41 K - 29 BB - Luis Cessa KC/Pit minor leagues - 14 unearned runs!
6.94 ERA - 0W 0L - 8 G - 11.2 IP - 9 ER - 2 HR - 4 K - 3 BB - Joel Kuhnel - stats over two seasons with Houston, now in Tampa minor league system
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4.07 ERA - 2W 3L - 9 G/GS - 42 IP - 17 ER - 9 HR - 40 K - 9 BB - Tyler Mahle over 2 seasons with Minnesota, now a Ranger on the 60 day IL
1.07 ERA - 3W 1L - 43 G - 42 IP - 5 ER - 2 HR - 57 K - 12 BB - Jeff Hoffman Philadelphia
3.38 ERA - 8W 10L - 22 G/GS - 130.1 IP - 49 ER - 15 HR - 126 K - 58 BB - Luis Castillo
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1.96 ERA - 1W 1L - 37 G - 36.2 IP - 8 ER - 2 HR - 32 K - 8 BB - Raisel Iglesias
3.54 ERA - 10W 6L - 18 G/GS - 106.2 IP - 42 ER - 12 HR - 131 K - 24 BB - Sonny Gray St. Louis
6.94 ERA - 3W 1L - 27 G - 23.1 IP - 18 ER - 6 HR - 19 K - 18 BB - Heath Hembree over 2 seasons with Pit, LAD and TBR. Now a Seattle minor leaguer
5.06 ERA - 0W 0L - 6 G - 5.1 IP - 3 ER - 1 HR - 11 K - 5 BB - Amir Garrett Los Angeles Angels - now in the minor leagues
3.53 ERA - 5W 5L - 17 G/GS - 97 IP - 38 ER - 14 HR - 73 K - 46 BB - Michael Lorenzen Texas
4.08 ERA - 1W 0L - 32 G - 28.2 IP - 13 ER - 0 HR - 26 K - 14 BB - Cionel Perez Baltimore
3.50 ERA - 1W 3L - 29 G - 61.2 IP - 24 ER - 7 HR - 58 K - 29 BB - Carson Fulmer over two seasons for Los Angeles Angels
8.04 AAA ERA - 1W 1L - 28 IP - 25 ER - 8 HR - 31 K - 18 BB - Art Warren New York Yankees minor leagues after a year out of baseball
4.50 ERA - 2W 2L - 41 G - 34 IP - 17 ER - 6 HR - 20 K - 12 BB - Wandy Peralta San Diego after 3 years as a 2.82 ERA Yankee reliever
9.24 AAA ERA - 0W 1L - 25.1 IP - 26 ER - 5 HR - 15 K - 13 BB - Sal Romano Boston minor leagues after being out of baseball for two years

Speaking of out of baseball
Riever Sanmartin
Brad Brach
Sean Doolittle
Ryan Hendrix
Mychal Givens
Cam Bedrosian

Since this is a pretty solid starting staff this year, let's take a look back to when it wasn't so good.
Starting rotation in 2017
5.52 ERA - 5W 11L - 30 G - 20 GS - 122.1 IP - 75 ER - 29 HR - 108 K - 51 BB - Tim Adelman - Led team in IP, ER, HR and K
4.77 ERA - 7W 7L - 21 G/GS - 111.1 IP - 59 ER - 21 HR - 93 K - 35 BB - Scott Feldman - Led team in W, GS and was only starter without a losing record
6.43 ERA - 6W 9L - 18 G/GS - 91 IP - 65 ER - 11 HR - 67 K - 42 BB - Homer Bailey
3.12 ERA - 3W 7L - 15 G/GS - 89.1 IP - 31 ER - 11 HR - 98 K - 32 BB - Luis Castillo - Led team in ERA
4.45 ERA - 5W 8L - 16 G/GS - 87 IP - 43 ER - 9 HR - 73 K - 37 BB - Sal Romano
7.35 ERA - 3W 6L - 14 G/GS - 71 IP - 58 ER - 23 HR - 45 K - 19 BB - Bronson Arroyo
4.68 ERA - 5W 6L - 25 G - 11 GS - 84.2 IP - 12 HR - 86 K - 53 BB - Robert Stephenson 
7.39 ERA - 3W 8L - 16 G - 14 GS - 70.2 IP - 23 HR - 63 K - 40 BB - Amir Garrett

Starting rotation in 2024
3.14 ERA - 7W 4L - 20 G/GS - 117.1 IP - 41 ER - 10 HR - 133 K - 48 BB - Hunter Greene - More strikeouts than 2017 leader
3.19 ERA - 9W 6L - 20 G/GS - 113 IP - 40 ER - 18 HR - 87 K - 43 BB - Andrew Abbott - More wins than 2017 leader
3.51 ERA - 8W 3L - 15 G/GS - 84.2 IP - 33 ER - 10 HR - 89 K - 25 BB - Nick Lodolo - More wins than 2017 leader
5.01 ERA - 4W 8L - 19 G/GS - 93.1 IP - 52 ER - 14 HR - 78 K - 41 BB - Frankie Montas - Only starter with a losing record
5.24 ERA - 5W 5L - 15 G/GS - 77.1 IP - 45 ER - 11 HR - 57 K - 27 BB - Graham Ashcraft
3.83 ERA - 3W 2L - 10 G - 5 GS - 47 IP - 20 ER - 5 HR - 41 K - 9 BB - Carson Spiers

Mariners acquired Randy Arozarena LF from Tampa for two lower level minor leaguers. The cost to Seattle wasn't much, and this could have been a need the Reds maybe should have competed for, imo.

(07-26-2024, 01:14 PM)Goalpost Wrote: Mariners acquired Randy Arozarena LF from Tampa for two lower level minor leaguers.  The cost to Seattle wasn't much, and this could have been a need the Reds maybe should have competed for, imo.

There will also be a PTBNL going to Tampa.

The curse of Aquino is back, Hinds optioned back to AAA. 1-12 in last 12 at bats.

(07-26-2024, 05:16 PM)Timanky12 Wrote: The curse of Aquino is back, Hinds optioned back to AAA. 1-12 in last 12 at bats.

Likely has more to do with Friedl being back.

(07-26-2024, 05:49 PM)cinci4life Wrote: Likely has more to do with Friedl being back.

How is Benson still here? He should be traded to Atlanta. He's from there, he played well there and, re-watching the two games in Atlanta with the Braves broadcasters, they know he's a local and they like him.

Krall will wait it out and likely do nothing. He may make a deadline deal but it will most likely just be a lateral move. Austin Slater type of shit.

No need for that stupid crap Elly.

Another runner out on the base paths, when does it end.

That's 3 in a row!!!

(07-26-2024, 07:53 PM)Forever Spinning Vinyl Wrote: How is Benson still here? He should be traded to Atlanta. He's from there, he played well there and, re-watching the two games in Atlanta with the Braves broadcasters, they know he's a local and they like him.

Krall will wait it out and likely do nothing. He may make a deadline deal but it will most likely just be a lateral move. Austin Slater type of shit.

Who the hell knows?

I doubt there's another team that would have a guy hitting .192 with 124 strike outs in 271 at bats (pushing 50%) being a regular player with the 4th most at bats on the team!!

He has a hot game, for him, hits a solo HR and a single. Then does nothing but strike out and pop up for the next dozen games. He's batting .143 vs lefties. It's way pas time to pull the plug.

(07-26-2024, 05:49 PM)cinci4life Wrote: Likely has more to do with Friedl being back.

I was hoping, beyond all hope, that his white hot first six games was somewhat sustainable. I knew he wasn't going to continue hitting .600 with all the extra base hits,but.... just be decent.

But he went ice cold. There's still hope he's young.

Was that move De La Cruz pulled at 2nd base to end the game? The clips I’ve seen don’t show game situation.

(07-27-2024, 10:55 AM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: Was that move De La Cruz pulled at 2nd base to end the game? The clips I’ve seen don’t show game situation.

I believe it was later in the game, not sure what inning? I'd bet you can look up the stats, not sure where? Baseball has stats for anything and everything. But I'd guess we're at or very near the top of the league in dumbass base running mistakes. And a lot of that is coaching. Bench a player's butt for a couple games every time he screws up running bases and it will slow way down.

I get and believe in the aggressive baseball approach. But there's a line somewhere there between aggressive and stupid. And we get into the stupid end way to much!!

(07-27-2024, 11:46 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: I believe it was later in the game, not sure what inning? I'd bet you can look up the stats, not sure where? Baseball has stats for anything and everything. But I'd guess we're at or very near the top of the league in dumbass base running mistakes. And a lot of that is coaching. Bench a player's butt for a couple games every time he screws up running bases and it will slow way down.

I get and believe in the aggressive baseball approach. But there's a line somewhere there between aggressive and stupid. And we get into the stupid end way to much!!

I missed whatever the base running error was. I was talking about him stalling then touching the bag at the last second to record the out.

(07-27-2024, 11:56 AM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: I missed whatever the base running error was. I was talking about him stalling then touching the bag at the last second to record the out.

Oh sorry

I saw a caught in run down highlight somewhere? To be honest I'm not even sure now that I think about it what game it even was? But still, waayyyy to many screw ups on base paths by this team. We could literally probably add 3 or 4 wins if we didn't run ourselves out of the game. Maybe more??

(07-27-2024, 12:03 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Oh sorry

I saw a caught in run down highlight somewhere? To be honest I'm not even sure now that I think about it what game it even was? But still, waayyyy to many screw ups on base paths by this team. We could literally probably add 3 or 4 wins if we didn't run ourselves out of the game. Maybe more??

Doesn’t it seem like it’s always an issue with the Reds? Does to me.