(09-16-2024, 11:29 AM)jj22 Wrote: better Arm, better athleticism, more of a threat with the ball in his hands, got more out of less weapons, doesn't need a half of a season to get warmed up, and he had that win (that he lost in 13 seconds) against Mahomes. Overall there was more of a question if he was better than Burrow in 21-22, but certainly not anymore. Allen can make happen what Burrow can't. 

Honestly Burrow has lost a ton of luster across the league with many of these young QB's taking his spot in the top 5.... 

Burrow really is damaged goods. Can we win with him yes, does he carry the aura that he used to around the league. No. 

Maybe time for you to find another team. You gonna eat crow when it's time?

(09-15-2024, 11:56 PM)Trademark Wrote: The game vs the Chiefs was yet another example. This guy cannot ice a game to save his life. Even during the SB run it was the defense that bailed him out mostly and Mixon.

I'm not reading through this whole thread but are you actually claiming that it's Burrow's fault that Yoshi AND Gesicki both dropped passes?

(09-16-2024, 12:21 PM)PCB Bengal Fan Wrote: Maybe time for you to find another team. You gonna eat crow when it's time?

I've never had any problems being honest in my assessment of the Bengals.

Not many are taking Burrow over Allen anymore. Burrow is a Nordstrom Dalton.

The number of young QB's (CJ, Love Murphy, Hurts) that have gained ground and have overtaken him, I won't ignore. 

Yall are living in 2021-2022...

Blame coaches, injuries whatever you want, but no team fears or should fear Burrow like they do these other QB's anymore. He's a shell of his old top 2 self and some are just slow to notice. 

We can still win with him, but not because of him. It's clear we need all else to go great (defense, talent around him, coaching). Things we'd slam other QB's (Dalton) for "needing" in order to be successful. 

Allen is 2-0 with no receivers, no talent, no defense, and some may argue worse coaching...  He doesn't need everything to be perfect around him. 

(09-16-2024, 12:49 PM)jj22 Wrote:  Burrow is a Nordstrom Dalton.

Are you saying he can predict the future?

(09-16-2024, 12:54 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Are you saying he can predict the future?

No, that would be Nostradalton.

(09-16-2024, 12:14 PM)brian5562 Wrote: Does anyone have a clip of this play? The 2nd and 6 pass to Yoshi on the final drive.

Biggest play on offense at the end of the game. Bengals use a staple concept and get the right look, correct read and throw.
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— Goodberry (@JoeGoodberry) September 16, 2024

Sure wasn't Burrow's fault in this one. He did enough to win this game. A rookie let us down on Defense. On Offense we should of ran
the ball more with Chase Brown, but it was a good Offensive showing from Burrow without Tee and Chase being harassed by McDuffie.

Our Defense played very good as a whole, don't understand putting Anthony in there over Battle or Hilton. Just nuts.

(09-16-2024, 11:29 AM)jj22 Wrote: better Arm, better athleticism, more of a threat with the ball in his hands, got more out of less weapons, doesn't need a half of a season to get warmed up, and he had that win (that he lost in 13 seconds) against Mahomes. Overall there was more of a question if he was better than Burrow in 21-22, but certainly not anymore. Allen can make happen what Burrow can't. 

Honestly Burrow has lost a ton of luster across the league with many of these young QB's taking his spot in the top 5.... 

Burrow really is damaged goods. Can we win with him yes, does he carry the aura that he used to around the league. No. 

No, he's lost luster with you. Every analyst and talk show host on the NFL channel still mentions him in the top 3

(09-16-2024, 02:06 PM)Sled21 Wrote: No, he's lost luster with you. Every analyst and talk show host on the NFL channel still mentions him in the top 3

Pfffft, what do EXPERTS know? Some guy on a message board CLEARLY knows more than they do. 

(09-16-2024, 02:06 PM)Sled21 Wrote: No, he's lost luster with you. Every analyst and talk show host on the NFL channel still mentions him in the top 3

Yep. He's still considered top 3 to 5 depending on the expert.

Interestingly, I think guys like Herbert and Lawrence are starting to lose luster. Tua because of injury.

(09-16-2024, 02:12 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Yep. He's still considered top 3 to 5 depending on the expert.

Interestingly, I think guys like Herbert and Lawrence are starting to lose luster. Tua because of injury.

Lawrence definitely. Herbert? No. The nfl loves marketing LA and Harbaugh, and he's apart of it

(09-16-2024, 02:12 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Yep. He's still considered top 3 to 5 depending on the expert.

Interestingly, I think guys like Herbert and Lawrence are starting to lose luster. Tua because of injury.

Lawrence has been a total disappointment considering all the hype he had coming out of college.

(09-16-2024, 01:51 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

Biggest play on offense at the end of the game. Bengals use a staple concept and get the right look, correct read and throw.
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— Goodberry (@JoeGoodberry) September 16, 2024

Hit him in a bad place...his hands.

(09-16-2024, 02:59 PM)Whatever Wrote: Hit him in a bad place...his hands.

He needs to catch it but there's no arguing it's a really bad throw. 

(09-16-2024, 03:46 PM)TheFan Wrote: He needs to catch it but there's no arguing it's a really bad throw. 

It is slightly behind him, but a very catchable ball.  A pro WR should catch that. 

2021 -22 Burrow (top 3) would have hit him in stride....

(09-16-2024, 12:49 PM)jj22 Wrote: Yall are living in 2021-2022...

Blame coaches, injuries whatever you want, but no team fears or should fear Burrow like they do these other QB's anymore. He's a shell of his old top 2 self and some are just slow to notice. 

We can still win with him, but not because of him. It's clear we need all else to go great (defense, talent around him, coaching). Things we'd slam other QB's (Dalton) for "needing" in order to be successful. 

Allen is 2-0 with no receivers, no talent, no defense, and some may argue worse coaching...  He doesn't need everything to be perfect around him. 

He was an MVP candidate before getting hurt last year after he healed fro his calf.

(09-16-2024, 04:03 PM)Whatever Wrote: It is slightly behind him, but a very catchable ball.  A pro WR should catch that. 

I think Yoshi was supposed to settle into that zone a little better. Goodberry says Yoshi isnt really ready for it in the clip. 

(09-16-2024, 04:14 PM)Synric Wrote: I think Yoshi was supposed to settle into that zone a little better. Goodberry says Yoshi isnt really ready for it in the clip. 

Romo mentioned it during the replay as well. He felt like Joe was throwing there to keep him away from the big hit...and that Yoshi needs to learn to settle into the zone.

(09-16-2024, 04:16 PM)Wyche Wrote: Romo mentioned it during the replay as well. He felt like Joe was throwing there to keep him away from the big hit...and that Yoshi needs to learn to settle into the zone.

That's usually the Ja'marr Chase or Tee Higgins route with Tyler Boyd running the stop or whip underneath.