(11-03-2024, 07:44 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Eric1, I am very appreciative of the SB and 2 AFCC games. I get that you don't see the problems with the team that I do, but that's cool. We have to do something, but we do nothing. 

Harley..I think that we saw today what the Bengals can do if healthy..But..I agree ..we could use a couple more pieces...Most teams would love to do something @ this juncture of the season...sometimes it works other times  not

(11-03-2024, 12:49 PM)Sled21 Wrote: I'm really sick of the "poor Whit" narrative. The offered him a one-year deal, which at Whit's age was the smart play. LA offered three, and Whit beat Father time more than others tend to do. He was an outlier. It was still the smart offer. 

I dont care what you are tired of, and Im not talking about the amount. Im talking about how he was treated by Troy Blackburn.  But you go on with your own argument.

(11-03-2024, 08:21 PM)casear2727 Wrote: I dont care what you are tired of, and Im not talking about the amount. Im talking about how he was treated by Troy Blackburn.  But you go on with your own argument.

you have absolutely no idea as to how he was treated or discussions they may have had.... aside from creating some story in your own mind..To this day Whitworth speaks highly of the Browns and this organization

(11-03-2024, 02:17 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: That’s what happens when you’re more interested in winning contract negotiations than games.

OTOH the Rams rolled the dice on Whit, made a buck of aggressive trades, and lo and behold they beat us in the Super Bowl.

andrew Whitworth was not the difference in that game or season.. whilst hindsight is fun  ..you have to be very careful when extending contradicts of 35 year old players in the NFL

(11-03-2024, 01:50 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: lol@ newbie fans..we have been season ticket holders the past 32 years..and over the course of the past 32 years ..regardless of the record..Mike Brown has always taken care of and been there for players  especially in instances of personal crisis..Whitworth was 35 years old when he left the Bengals ..the team was willing to give him approximately the same amount of money as LA..just not a three year deal..Mike Brown came out publically and said they loved Andrew, he was a great player and wanted to take it year to year...nothing wrong with that with a 35 year old player...Whitworth and Brown  made up.............................................................................................................Along with dozens of others the Brown family have helped, we recently found out the Brown family has been helping Pacman Jones financialy  to raise  Chris Henrys sons and set aside money for college educations

Does Mike Brown need to hire a formal GM and make better decisions..Yes

• Respect: Whitworth says he respects Brown's honesty and appreciates what he did for Whitworth and his family. 
  
  
• Handwritten notes: Brown has written handwritten notes to Whitworth, including on the birth of Whitworth's daughter, the publication of Whitworth's memoir, and Whitworth's retirement. 
  
  
• Framed letter: Whitworth has a framed letter from Brown in his office.
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• Caesar..I may be a "newbie" on this Board..but in reviewing your posts ..all you do is find fault with the team and denigrate others that dont agree with you..You fault myself and others for appreciating the recent success of the team so I guess the only way to get in your good graces is to be bitter and angry and live in the past..
  

Again, for a 32 year long season ticket holder you dont know much about the Whit situation.

His deal was with Mike Brown, and Mike alone.  When Whit approached Troy Blackburn afterwards, Blackburn told him he didnt want to talk to him, that he disagreed with the extra year, and seemingly disrespectful.  

I dont need anyone in my good graces, just be a little informed.  I have been a fan longer than 32 years, I have seen us have good teams and I have seen the front office not do what it takes to get over the hump to make it happen.  

It is also stupid to chastise fans that are not happy with a 3-5 team that was supposed to contend for a SB.  I've not given up yet but chastising people who make credible, critical comments its annoying.  You do that and then apologize for being such a pumper.  I dont.  When they are good I say they are good, when they are bad I say they are bad.  I haven't called for any firings other than ownership and the front office, for a variety of reasons. 

(11-03-2024, 08:23 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: you have absolutely no idea as to how he was treated or discussions they may have had.... aside from creating some story in your own mind..To this day Whitworth speaks highly of the Browns and this organization

Really?  Made up in my own mind?  How about you hear it from Whit, you bungling fool. 

Imagine actually defending this douche nozzle

(11-03-2024, 08:30 PM)casear2727 Wrote: It is also stupid to chastise fans that are not happy with a 3-5 team that was supposed to contend for a SB.  I've not given up yet but chastising people who make credible, critical comments its annoying. 

Agreed. There are a few regulars here who thrive on such a shtick whenever someone posts constructive criticism for any individual in the Bengals organization. The current trend is to parrot, "but Zac made the AFC championship less than two years ago and even made it to the Super Bowl!" or post something snarky to the critical person followed by a   emoji.

The Brown/Blackburn family, Duke, Zac, Burrow, and company has yet to win a Super Bowl. Until that happens, it's expected fans will have critical takes when the team has a losing record.

(11-03-2024, 08:54 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: Agreed. There a few regulars here who thrive on such a shtick whenever someone posts constructive criticism for any individual in the Bengals organization. The current trend is to parrot, "but Zac made the AFC championship less than two years ago and even made it to the Super Bowl!" or post something snarky to the critical person followed by a   emoji.

My favorite is when they lecture us on a topic of which they have zero knowledge.  I swear some of these posters poop pom poms.

Has to be someone's second account.

(11-03-2024, 08:54 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: Agreed. There are a few regulars here who thrive on such a shtick whenever someone posts constructive criticism for any individual in the Bengals organization. The current trend is to parrot, "but Zac made the AFC championship less than two years ago and even made it to the Super Bowl!" or post something snarky to the critical person followed by a   emoji.

The Brown/Blackburn family, Duke, Zac, Burrow, and company has yet to win a Super Bowl. Until that happens, it's expected fans will have critical takes when the team has a losing record.

(11-03-2024, 08:55 PM)casear2727 Wrote: My favorite is when they lecture us on a topic of which they have zero knowledge.  I swear some of these posters poop pom poms.

(11-03-2024, 09:00 PM)bfine32 Wrote:

(11-03-2024, 07:53 PM)QueenCity Wrote: Add running back to the list.... Bengals interested in adding per Twitter sources.

Moss may be done for the year or a hot minute.

I’d be calling the Jaguars for Tank Bigsby if they are going to continue to run Etienne out there for some weird reason.

Chase Young was an interesting idea.

Only has 2 sacks this year. Never really had that double digit year. PFF grade is 56.

25 years old.

I think he's on a 1 year deal.

Would it be crazy to trade for him? Is he just a bust?

(11-03-2024, 09:16 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Chase Young was an interesting idea.

Only has 2 sacks this year. Never really had that double digit year. PFF grade is 56.

25 years old.

I think he's on a 1 year deal.

Would it be crazy to trade for him? Is he just a bust?

Prob a bust as a #1 but opposite of Hendrickson I'd take my chances for a 5th round pick. 

(11-03-2024, 07:47 PM)QueenCity Wrote: Must be one of those "legacy players" cause they aren't going anywhere anytime soon. 

Would be one of those Cincinnati Bengals/Reds mistakes holding onto a piece just for history purposes. 

If you trade your best players for picks, you get worse. That's why rebuilding is hard. One of the reasons.

(11-03-2024, 09:18 PM)QueenCity Wrote: Prob a bust as a #1 but opposite of Hendrickson I'd take my chances for a 5th round pick. 

You could in theory have Trey, Young, and a 3rd pass rushing end out there at times.

(11-03-2024, 09:08 PM)Au165 Wrote: I’d be calling the Jaguars for Tank Bigsby if they are going to continue to run Etienne out there for some weird reason.

Hubbard
Sanders
Mattison

Or if ya wanna dream big Pollard

(11-03-2024, 09:40 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: If you trade your best players for picks, you get worse. That's why rebuilding is hard. One of the reasons.

I'm one of those fans if you aren't first than you should be close to last...

I believe being a "treadmill team" is one of the worst spots to be in sports.  Good enough to maybe make the playoffs but not bad enough for a top 5 pick. It's one the main reasons the Steelers can't climb out of their hole.

If the rumors are true, Bengals are interested in bolstering the pass rush.

The FO needed this win to determine whether they were going to pursue someone or not.
They need to bolster their defense with a pass rusher and/or DB to help against these playoff teams with stronger offenses than the likes of LV and CLE.
Bengals are 1.0 game out of the WC and have a critical stretch of 3 games against 3 teams in the playoff picture right now - BAL, LAC, PIT.
They need to go 3-0 or 2-1 in that stretch to keep their chances alive, so improving their defense and getting Higgins back healthy would improve those chances.
It would also help to try to get a LT to replace Ford. Not sure if there are guys worth trading for, but there are some names still available in FA that might be interested to join a playoff push for half a season. Whoever joined would have to be ok as a swing tackle once OBJ is back though.