Partying and Being Fat.

[Nicomo Cosca]

(Yesterday, 10:43 PM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: Caesar had a lot of inside info. I think he had family members friends with current or past players.

His son was friends with DJ Reader.

[samhain]

(Yesterday, 02:04 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Battle was Lou’s guy in the draft. It’s all on Battle he’s got a huge competition with Bell & Geno Stone coming aboard? He comes in over weight. The Bengals/Zac misjudged their culture. They felt Burton was immature and that their stellar WR room culture would help him. It didn’t. Possibly Battle as well. Zac has got to get some Parcells/Belichick in him. I realize it’s not his personality but it can be pretty effective when you do blow up. 

I legit thought Battle was going to be a leader in the defense.  He was highly thought of at Alabama from a leadership standpoint.

[samhain]

(Yesterday, 02:39 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: Party amongst defensive players with lots of women and fun. Some married dudes showed up. No offensive players were present. Then info about the occurrence spilled over into the locker room. So instead of a players meeting about ball, it became a players meeting about doing the nasty.

This is all info I heard from the person that heard about it. I have no idea what was or wasn't true.

Wonder if that's why Mikey and Elizabeth looked so pissy in the luxury box during that game.

[samhain]

(Yesterday, 01:20 PM)Bengalstripes9 Wrote: Whoever was responsible for the recent defensive draft picks should be the scapegoat.

I wouldn’t be surprised if if it was Tobin responsible, but if it were Lou he deserves the axe.

Maybe.  If you're interviewing coordinators, I'd be asking candidates what they could get out of the DBs in-house.  

If guys like CTB, Hill, Turner and Battle start looking decent, then I'm blaming the coaching.  If they fail to meet expectations gains, then it's a evaluation issue, ie largely Duke.  To that point, caches are involved in scouting and evaluation, so there's no real scenario where they don't bear some responsibility.

[Ell Prez]

(Yesterday, 07:54 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Caeser was a good poster. Too bad he’s not around anymore.

What happened to Caesar? He liked almost all my posts and I liked almost all of his. We never spoke or messaged once but I swear it was like he and I just gave each other what’s up nods on the reg.

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(Yesterday, 10:38 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Not even sure what happened there, I guess I missed it? Normally it's P&R that is folk's downfall.

I miss having him around....good poster for sure.

[*bfine32*]

Family Member on the Board Quiz:

Who was Torro?

[NATI BENGALS]

This thread was calling my name. Thought someone had the same new years resolution as me or something.

[*rfaulk34*]

(Today, 12:14 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Family Member on the Board Quiz:

Who was Torro?

Los' dad. 

[*bfine32*]

(Today, 01:41 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Los' dad. 

Close. He was Michael Johnson's dad. 

[t3r3e3]

(Yesterday, 05:01 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: YEP

If he can’t get his shit together this offseason he needs to be playing in the Arena League or the USFL. Immature head cases have no business on this roster.

[*rfaulk34*]

(Today, 02:21 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Close. He was Michael Johnson's dad. 

Weird. So Dunlap's dad didn't post here or the mothership at all? I would have bet money on that...

[WeezyBengal]

(Yesterday, 12:44 AM)samhain Wrote: I had the pitchforks out for Lou as much as anyone.  Time will tell if the decision to fire him was correct or merely an out for Zac to defend a disappointing season.  A blood sacrifice was in order, and Lou was the most obvious.

With that in mind, there have been rumors about certain defensive players and a lack of professionalism.  Battle, who showed promise, struggled to get snaps early on.  Many gave Lou a ration of shit for this.  Now, I'm hearing that Battle came to camp significantly overweight and slow.  Not Bell and Lou favoritism.  Not Lou being stuck in is ways about veterans and youth.  It was a player coming in fat.  That's as unprofessional as it gets if true.  

CTB, oddly regressed after playing well as a rookie and in his second year.  Mental lapses killed him.  Lately, there have been hints that he'd embraced more of a party lifestyle this year and that it impacts this play.  It's weird to me considering what a good kid he has always appeared to be.  

You don't hear this stuff about Joe, Ja'marr or Tee.  Or Trey.  You hear about guys that shut their families out on Saturday to get focused on gameday.  Obsessive professionals.  

I think there may have been a bigger cultural lapse than we realize this year.  These guys are scapegoats, but how many others did similar things if true?

What was his excuse for playing an injured/ineffective Hubbard the entire year? 

[Bengalitis]

(Yesterday, 02:06 PM)Synric Wrote: Jordan Battle was a Darrin Simmons' guy.

Edit: Which is another example of just how much say the Bengals Coordinators have in stacking the draft board.

had they kept Bates, maybe it would have been a better season.. also Britt got burned a lot, is all I can remember, at least had more minuses than pluses...

The secondary got better 2nd half of the season, not sure if it was due to coaching, or they were basically reminded that chances of them losing their jobs is possible.

[Joelist]

Let’s keep in mind Bates was not Superman when he was here. He’s prospering in Atlanta because their system on defense fits his skillset well.

[SunsetBengal]

(3 hours ago)Bengalitis Wrote: had they kept Bates, maybe it would have been a better season.. also Britt got burned a lot, is all I can remember, at least had more minuses than pluses...

The secondary got better 2nd half of the season, not sure if it was due to coaching, or they were basically reminded that chances of them losing their jobs is possible.

They "simplified" some things. Not sure exactly what was simplified (coverages and responsibilities, or just the language in making calls).

[*bengalfan74*]

(2 hours ago)SunsetBengal Wrote: They "simplified" some things. Not sure exactly what was simplified (coverages and responsibilities, or just the language in making calls).

I don't dispute that, I'm sure that was part of it, but..... The level of competition went down to end the season as well. 3 win Browns, 3 win Titans and they made them look good for quite awhile, 7 win Cowboys but they looked like hammered dog doo at many times during the season and just weren't that good. And lets face it the Steelers weren't all of that either.

That's why I'm very hesitant to proclaim this player got better, that is fixed, we're good on defense now and so on. 

[SunsetBengal]

(2 hours ago)bengalfan74 Wrote: I don't dispute that, I'm sure that was part of it, but..... The level of competition went down to end the season as well. 3 win Browns, 3 win Titans and they made them look good for quite awhile, 7 win Cowboys but they looked like hammered dog doo at many times during the season and just weren't that good. And lets face it the Steelers weren't all of that either.

That's why I'm very hesitant to proclaim this player got better, that is fixed, we're good on defense now and so on. 

Agreed, I was just letting him know what the "public word" was when the team was asked about the perceived improvement in secondary play (safety position in particular)

On another note, I think that the secondary will look better this year simply by having Dax Hill and DJ Turner back and healthy. We knew it was going to be a shit show when they went down for the year, and all we were left with was CTB and some back of the roster guys.

[*jason*]

(2 hours ago)Joelist Wrote: Let’s keep in mind Bates was not Superman when he was here. He’s prospering in Atlanta because their system on defense fits his skillset well.

He was pretty badass when he was focused in Cincinnati. He's at least one tier above any player currently in the secondary. Probably more than a single tier above them all.

[ERIC1]

(2 hours ago)Joelist Wrote: Let’s keep in mind Bates was not Superman when he was here. He’s prospering in Atlanta because their system on defense fits his skillset well.

he was superman compared to the performance of "what we had" this year