Trey Hendrickson Update

[SunsetBengal]

(06-05-2025, 05:52 PM)XsandOs Wrote: It is hard to reconcile the Stewart pick and still signing Trey to a long-term deal.

If we trade him, I would want Cosmi from Commanders.

If it did come down to that, a player for player trade, that would be an awesome swap. The Bengals could get Cosmi for 4 years and be responsible for $51M of his contract. As a bonus, Cosmi has only committed 4 holding penalties in 4 seasons, has experience at both RT and RG. It would definitely put the pressure on the team to rectify the Stewart contract language and hope and pray that Ossai and Murphy show up to play this year.

At the end of the day, I'd rather have Trey paid, happy and smashing QBs en route to a Bengals Superbowl Championship. But if there is just no reaching of an agreement between him and the team, a trade for a guy like Cosmi would be a soft landing.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(06-05-2025, 07:03 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: If it did come down to that, a player for player trade, that would be an awesome swap. The Bengals could get Cosmi for 4 years and be responsible for $51M of his contract. As a bonus, Cosmi has only committed 4 holding penalties in 4 seasons, has experience at both RT and RG. It would definitely put the pressure on the team to rectify the Stewart contract language and hope and pray that Ossai and Murphy show up to play this year.

At the end of the day, I'd rather have Trey paid, happy and smashing QBs en route to a Bengals Superbowl Championship. But if there is just no reaching of an agreement between him and the team, a trade for a guy like Cosmi would be a soft landing.

Yeah, I would feel better about it if we got a player like Cosmi that is for sure. Still wouldn't be entirely happy losing Trey.

[XsandOs]

(06-05-2025, 07:03 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: If it did come down to that, a player for player trade, that would be an awesome swap. The Bengals could get Cosmi for 4 years and be responsible for $51M of his contract. As a bonus, Cosmi has only committed 4 holding penalties in 4 seasons, has experience at both RT and RG. It would definitely put the pressure on the team to rectify the Stewart contract language and hope and pray that Ossai and Murphy show up to play this year.

At the end of the day, I'd rather have Trey paid, happy and smashing QBs en route to a Bengals Superbowl Championship. But if there is just no reaching of an agreement between him and the team, a trade for a guy like Cosmi would be a soft landing.

I completely agree that I would rather have Trey as a Bengal. That is the first choice. But Sunset; if/when that happens, I don't feel either side would be happy with the contract - and that is ok. To me, that would mean value for both. 

But if he is traded, Cosmi is the guy I want. If he is signed, I want Scherff.

All the garbage that is written about trading Trey for second round picks next year (which would have been a 3rd round pick this year), Jerzan Newton, etc. is paid talking heads propagating the agenda of other owners. 

With Jesse Bates, Tee and now Trey - it seems that every season we are in some type of internal struggle. 

[SunsetBengal]

(06-05-2025, 09:32 PM)XsandOs Wrote: I completely agree that I would rather have Trey as a Bengal. That is the first choice. But Sunset; if/when that happens, I don't feel either side would be happy with the contract - and that is ok. To me, that would mean value for both. 

But if he is traded, Cosmi is the guy I want. If he is signed, I want Scherff.

All the garbage that is written about trading Trey for second round picks next year (which would have been a 3rd round pick this year), Jerzan Newton, etc. is paid talking heads propagating the agenda of other owners. 

With Jesse Bates, Tee and now Trey - it seems that every season we are in some type of internal struggle. 

You are completely justified in your feelings as a fan. The Bengals if their trading Trey Hendrickson, is worthy of an equal or near equal player in return. Who cares about draft picks, might as well be lottery tickets..

[XsandOs]

(06-05-2025, 09:13 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yeah, I would feel better about it if we got a player like Cosmi that is for sure. Still wouldn't be entirely happy losing Trey.

Nate; I don't think any Bengal fan would have even imagined after the season that we would be in this situation with Trey. Or fathom the idea that we would be even discussing trading him.

But the seemingly never ending saga keeps recurring. 

Lets hope it all ends well.

[XsandOs]

(06-05-2025, 09:35 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: You are completely justified in your feelings as a fan. The Bengals if their trading Trey Hendrickson, is worthy of an equal or near equal player in return. Who cares about draft picks, might as well be lottery tickets..

And the most ridiculous aspect of a 2026 draft pick is that it is a depreciating asset. It is analogous to paying for a lottery ticket for a drawing 12 months from now. The business from which you are buying the ticket, gets to use and enjoy your funds now, but you have to wait an entire year to possibly get a return on your investment.

[samhain]

(06-05-2025, 09:35 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: You are completely justified in your feelings as a fan. The Bengals if their trading Trey Hendrickson, is worthy of an equal or near equal player in return. Who cares about draft picks, might as well be lottery tickets..

Yep.  If you let him go at this point, you're risking flushing the 3rd straight year of Joe Burrow down the crapper.  Those years are starting to pile up.  If they flat out knew they weren't going to give him raise, and also knew that he was going to get demonstrative about it, then he should have been moved before the draft.  Let him go now and you're looking at a candidate for bottom five defense in the league.  Totally unacceptable.

[Essex Johnson]

(06-05-2025, 10:02 PM)samhain Wrote: Yep.  If you let him go at this point, you're risking flushing the 3rd straight year of Joe Burrow down the crapper.  Those years are starting to pile up.  If they flat out knew they weren't going to give him raise, and also knew that he was going to get demonstrative about it, then he should have been moved before the draft.  Let him go now and you're looking at a candidate for bottom five defense in the league.  Totally unacceptable.

we have alot of changes on defense coming so lets see what happens with the defense but in the end, we loaded up on offense, Burrow has the best offense in his tenure and is now a veteran, we should be very competitive even with a subpar defense.  What we need with our without Tre is a 2-0 start for first time under Burrow and Taylor careers. 

[Sled21]

(06-05-2025, 10:02 PM)samhain Wrote: Yep.  If you let him go at this point, you're risking flushing the 3rd straight year of Joe Burrow down the crapper.  Those years are starting to pile up.  If they flat out knew they weren't going to give him raise, and also knew that he was going to get demonstrative about it, then he should have been moved before the draft.  Let him go now and you're looking at a candidate for bottom five defense in the league.  Totally unacceptable.

But they did offer him a raise. A 12-million-dollar raise. 

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(06-05-2025, 09:44 PM)XsandOs Wrote: Nate; I don't think any Bengal fan would have even imagined after the season that we would be in this situation with Trey. Or fathom the idea that we would be even discussing trading him.

But the seemingly never ending saga keeps recurring. 

Lets hope it all ends well.

Well I thought we would lose one of Tee or Trey and thought it was going to be Tee before we extended him. Obviously it wasn't Tee and 
I thought maybe a Trey extension on top of the other 2 might be a little too rich for the FO's blood after he turned down their initial offer.

In the end, as long as the team is all in before the season I am happy. Just hope Trey is happy as well and if not, a Cosmi trade would be
something that would make us all feel better if there is a bright side. Ja'Marr was the one guy we couldn't afford to lose as I do think with
Ossai and Stewart we have some pass rush if the DT's really grow. 

Trey is getting older and he isn't going to lead the league in sacks again IMO. I think he should of taken the initial offer before Tee got his.

Still stand by Trey's agent being the biggest problem here. This dude has made gaff after gaff the last few years, not a coincidence things
are still stagnant in this saga to me. Tee fired his old agent, hired Ja'Marr's and a deal got done, also not a coincidence.

[Luvnit2]

Each time I click on this thread I keep thinking there is an actual update.

[Nicomo Cosca]

(Yesterday, 01:19 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Each time I click on this thread I keep thinking there is an actual update.

It could really use a title change tbh.

[NUGDUKWE]

(Yesterday, 12:47 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Still stand by Trey's agent being the biggest problem here. This dude has made gaff after gaff the last few years, not a coincidence things
are still stagnant in this saga to me. Tee fired his old agent, hired Ja'Marr's and a deal got done, also not a coincidence.

I'm not sure it's his agent. Tee got rid of his agent because he wouldn't bend just because Tee wanted to be here he still wanted to hold the Bengals to what the rest of the league is doing. Treys agent seems to be on the opposite end of the spectrum and is will to take less guarantees and 1 year extensions ( I pressume at the guidance of Trey to some extent ).

[Truck_1_0_1_]

(Yesterday, 03:17 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: I'm not sure it's his agent. Tee got rid of his agent because he wouldn't bend just because Tee wanted to be here he still wanted to hold the Bengals to what the rest of the league is doing. Treys agent seems to be on the opposite end of the spectrum and is will to take less guarantees and 1 year extensions ( I pressume at the guidance of Trey to some extent ).

The timing and manner in which the requests are coming, is what Nate is after: the agent is clearly the one getting in Hendrickson's ear and making him do all this crap and/or advising him on what to do: there's no way any athlete tries to do all these things on his own volition, it's way too messy to have to deal with and clean up.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 03:17 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: I'm not sure it's his agent. Tee got rid of his agent because he wouldn't bend just because Tee wanted to be here he still wanted to hold the Bengals to what the rest of the league is doing. Treys agent seems to be on the opposite end of the spectrum and is will to take less guarantees and 1 year extensions ( I pressume at the guidance of Trey to some extent ).

Where are you getting this from Trey and his agent again? Sounds like Trey wants guarantees and at least a 3 year contract from what I have 
been hearing. Last year Trey asked for a raise or to be traded the day before draft day when it was impossible to do so, no way Trey didn't talk
to his agent about this before asking this and this was beyond asinine. 

This year, here we go again. The Bengals even let Trey test the market and couldn't get any offers to Trey and his agent's liking that the Bengals
would agree to. Has to be the agent being the reason this hasn't gotten done along with the Bengals FO. Trey wouldn't be doing these things on
his own.

(Yesterday, 03:27 PM)Truck_1_0 _1_ Wrote: The timing and manner in which the requests are coming, is what Nate is after: the agent is clearly the one getting in Hendrickson's ear and making him do all this crap and/or advising him on what to do: there's no way any athlete tries to do all these things on his own volition, it's way too messy to have to deal with and clean up.

Spot on Truck. Spot on.

[*Nately120*]

(Yesterday, 01:19 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Each time I click on this thread I keep thinking there is an actual update.

I keep doing the same thing. I don't think I'm expecting anything new, but I'm still disappointed when nothing new is revealed.  

[NUGDUKWE]

(Yesterday, 05:05 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Where are you getting this from Trey and his agent again? Sounds like Trey wants guarantees and at least a 3 year contract from what I have 
been hearing. Last year Trey asked for a raise or to be traded the day before draft day when it was impossible to do so, no way Trey didn't talk
to his agent about this before asking this and this was beyond asinine. 

This year, here we go again. The Bengals even let Trey test the market and couldn't get any offers to Trey and his agent's liking that the Bengals
would agree to. Has to be the agent being the reason this hasn't gotten done along with the Bengals FO. Trey wouldn't be doing these things on
his own.


Spot on Truck. Spot on.

What wouldn't he be doing on his own? I'm sure he wants a new contract and he has limited resources to push the issue so yes his agent is saying go to the media but that is standard operating procedure. I also haven't heard.specific demands on guarantees just that he wants years and not incentives that are out of his control. I'm just not sure on blaming the agent because he has signed contracts with Bengal style guarantees already so seems hes willing to work with them.

[XsandOs]

(Yesterday, 10:21 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: What wouldn't he be doing on his own? I'm sure he wants a new contract and he has limited resources to push the issue so yes his agent is saying go to the media but that is standard operating procedure. I also haven't heard.specific demands on guarantees just that he wants years and not incentives that are out of his control. I'm just not sure on blaming the agent because he has signed contracts with Bengal style guarantees already so seems hes willing to work with them.

Agents are incentivized not only on current contracts, but also to uphold a reputation and track record to sign future clients. 

Consequently; to get an above market value contract is a matter of prestige and street cred.

At times, it is a dis-service to the player and organization - i.e. conflict of interest with their own client. Tee's agent was stuck on this point.

I feel strongly that a $35M, multiyear deal for Trey is above his market value. Playing the media card is available to all parties. The talking heads are for sale to anyone willing to pay.

BTW; Don Yee who represented Brady, is doing quite well regardless of the perceived below market deals he arranged for Brady. 

[XsandOs]

This was the SI analysis of Hendrickson signing in 2021:

Trey Hendrickson, Edge: C+

Trey Hendrickson busted onto the scene last season, finishing with 13.5 sacks. He made the most of his chances on a pick-your-poison defensive front in New Orleans. The move stinks a bit like desperation after Carl Lawson took a deal with the Jets late Monday evening. The Bengals had the fewest sacks in the league with Lawson, and there isn't a strong argument that Hendrickson is an upgrade over the Auburn-product on the right side.

Value: The Bengals have essentially signed Hendrickson to a year-by-year contract with a total 2021 payout of $20 million dollars. There are no hard commitments following this season, leaving Hendrickson the task of proving he can be a perennial 10+ sack player. This is the clear difference from the deal Lawson signed, which includes $30 million in guarantees. If he pops, the Bengals get great value in replacing Lawson. While the opposite leaves the team in a similar spot to where they were Sunday—searching for a premier sack artist.

Paying $20M in 2021 for a guy who many felt was a beneficiary of playing on a defensive line of Cam Jordan and Sheldon Rankins, was above market value. But the Bengals did it.

He now feels that he is the center of Bengal defense universe, and is holding the Bengals hostage with a plastic water gun. He is a 30 year old DE AND UNDER CONTRACT. 

I find that hilarious and simultaneously sad.

[Soonerpeace]

Trey and the Bengals are extremely far apart. It’s why there’s been no communication. And no it’s not the Bengals of old. They are being fair but Trey wants too money.