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(07-09-2025, 06:34 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: We did address the OL this offseason ..just maybe not with the players and coaches you wanted..plus our starting LT will be back and Mims will have a year under his belt
Yeah, they invested in a 3rd round rookie who could be a promising prospect, and a 5th round guy with a nice upside and an injury list longer than most veterans of foreign wars. Oh, let's not forget that they also hired some has-been/never-was to be the insurance policy if their rookie gambles don't pan out. Looking more like the interior DL situation from last year, rather than "We've made significant upgrades in the position group that finished 31 out of 32 teams last year"...
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(07-09-2025, 06:04 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: A bad defense and a protected Burrow this team has a chance. If bad protection gets Burrow hurt then it doesnt matter what the defense does our season is done.
I think the defense plays into the protection aspect as well, though. If they cannot stop anyone or hold a lead, it’s just more that Joe has to drop back and try to win the game. And even great offensive lines have trouble protecting when the defense knows that pass after pass is coming.
I know burrow is great against the blitz and the rush but I still do not fully trust our offensive line, so it’d be really helpful to have a defense that could allow our offense to sit on a lead and spend more time running the football and controlling the clock.
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(07-09-2025, 06:34 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: We did address the OL this offseason ..just maybe not with the players and coaches you wanted..plus our starting LT will be back and Mims will have a year under his belt
This is an outside rating. This isn't about fan speculation. My opinion is they didnt do enough because they could've done more it's that simple.
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I'm not sure that this is the right place to post this but the Bengals could have signed Tevin Jenkins + Levi Onwuzurike for under the cap number of BJ Hill.
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(07-09-2025, 10:15 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: Lol@ outside ratings...you mean the same people that had deions son in the top 5 in this years draft..furtermore..even if things dont pan out..there will be a ton of really good players available when final cuts are made..acquiring players in their thirties whos best years are long gone is not always the answer just because of name recognition.
Lol @ a ton of really good players on final cuts. Every year people say this and it never seems to be the case. Zeitler would've been who I wanted he signed a 1 year deal for 9 mil. We could've had him and had the feel good end your career here story and hes playing a whole lot better than what we have had.
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(07-09-2025, 10:45 PM)J24 Wrote: I'm not sure that this is the right place to post this but the Bengals could have signed Tevin Jenkins + Levi Onwuzurike for under the cap number of BJ Hill.
I was surprised at the BJ Hill signing and number. I like him but I thought we might have moved on and upgraded elsewhere.
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(07-09-2025, 10:52 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: I was surprised at the BJ Hill signing and number. I like him but I thought we might have moved on and upgraded elsewhere.
Its not so much about BJ ( Although, yes I agree we could have upgraded the position)! My point is more about the fact they could have added two key contributors at two position of weaknesses for hardly nothing and chose not to.
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(07-09-2025, 07:47 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Yeah, they invested in a 3rd round rookie who could be a promising prospect, and a 5th round guy with a nice upside and an injury list longer than most veterans of foreign wars. Oh, let's not forget that they also hired some has-been/never-was to be the insurance policy if their rookie gambles don't pan out. Looking more like the interior DL situation from last year, rather than "We've made significant upgrades in the position group that finished 31 out of 32 teams last year"...
Their starting LT will be back...Their starting Rt has a year under his belt..You may not like Fairchild but most feel that he has the potential to be a solid Guard.Interestingly..and dont let facts bite you in the butt..this offense last year was one of the best in the league with the offensive linemen they had..And let us not forget they made a significant coaching change immediately when the season ended..
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(07-09-2025, 10:50 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: Lol @ a ton of really good players on final cuts. Every year people say this and it never seems to be the case. Zeitler would've been who I wanted he signed a 1 year deal for 9 mil. We could've had him and had the feel good end your career here story and hes playing a whole lot better than what we have had.
"What we have had" contributed to one of the best offenses in the league last year..You wanted Zeitler..team did not
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(07-10-2025, 12:15 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: Their starting LT will be back...Their starting Rt has a year under his belt..You may not like Fairchild but most feel that he has the potential to be a solid Guard.Interestingly..and dont let facts bite you in the butt..this offense last year was one of the best in the league with the offensive linemen they had..And let us not forget they made a significant coaching change immediately when the season ended..
I never said that I didn't like Fairchild. I said he's a 3rd round rookie who could be a promising prospect. Even if he shows up and plays well from day 1, he's still going to be an NFL rookie, and willey veterans will figure out how to exploit him a time or two at opportune moments.
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(07-10-2025, 12:17 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: "What we have had" contributed to one of the best offenses in the league last year..You wanted Zeitler..team did not
The team ( The FO ) wanted someone who would take backup level money so they signed a backup level player coming off an ACL injury. They value money over winning.
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Anyone who thinks "the team" wanting this guy or not wanting that guy, makes them right, needs to pull his head out of his ass because the team also wanted Carman, Jordan, Price and Volson and they all sucked.
GTFO with that stupid line of thinking.
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(07-10-2025, 12:17 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: "What we have had" contributed to one of the best offenses in the league last year..You wanted Zeitler..team did not
Yeah, why would the team want him. 
I mean, when you have the chance to sign a stud like Lucas Patrick you DO IT.
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I really wish they had someone other than Cam Grandy and Andrei Iosivas to create 7 man blocking surfaces. I think Iosivas could really be a big factor in that area this year but Grandy doesn't tie the rushing and passing offense together like Erick All. Also don't like that Sample and Gesicki's lack of versatility limits the offense in 11 personnel.
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(07-09-2025, 07:47 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Yeah, they invested in a 3rd round rookie who could be a promising prospect, and a 5th round guy with a nice upside and an injury list longer than most veterans of foreign wars. Oh, let's not forget that they also hired some has-been/never-was to be the insurance policy if their rookie gambles don't pan out. Looking more like the interior DL situation from last year, rather than "We've made significant upgrades in the position group that finished 31 out of 32 teams last year"...
Same holds true..you dont like the players and coaches the bengals acquired..thus the team is doomed..only time will tell
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(07-11-2025, 03:45 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: Same holds true..you dont like the players and coaches the bengals acquired..thus the team is doomed..only time will tell
If this front office spent as much energy as they do on leverage for contracts on player development and scouting, this organization would be perennial contenders for the Super Bowl without the unnecessary drama. The FO blows because Katie a.k.a. Pumpkin and sOP are incompetent. Just because your bloodlines come from one of the most innovative coaches of all time doesn’t mean it is part of your DNA. Katie is not impressive and I don’t know why other fans are not calling her out! Mikey is too senile to be running the show.
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I'd love to know what the Brown family spends their money on... from the outside they look pretty boring to me.
Just curious why they appear so money hungry.
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(2 hours ago)QueenCity Wrote: I'd love to know what the Brown family spends their money on... from the outside they look pretty boring to me.
Just curious why they appear so money hungry.
Because his dad got fired from the team he co-founded and coached to championships, which caused them to have to relocate and start all over. I'm sure that left an indelible mark on him and helped shape the type of person he was.
Also, it's possible that people today don't realise what a money-miser Paul Brown was. The apple didn't really have to fall far from the tree there.
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(1 hour ago)rfaulk34 Wrote: Because his dad got fired from the team he co-founded and coached to championships, which caused them to have to relocate and start all over. I'm sure that left an indelible mark on him and helped shape the type of person he was.
Also, it's possible that people today don't realise what a money-miser Paul Brown was. The apple didn't really have to fall far from the tree there.
Not sure all of that could happen in 2025. But yes I understand the sentiment.
I kind of agree with Shemar it does feel like the family wants to win arguments/contracts more so than games. Not that Shemar was the right person to speak on that.
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(2 hours ago)QueenCity Wrote: I'd love to know what the Brown family spends their money on... from the outside they look pretty boring to me.
Just curious why they appear so money hungry.
The Brown family just spent a zillion bucks to keep burrow, chase and higgins and some that refuse to live in the present find fault with everything the organiztion does..Compared to many other NFL team owners the Brown family is pretty austere
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