Defensive Issues

[THE PISTONS]

To me, the defensive issues aren't scheme. The line is bad
This hurts LB play. And the safeties are slow and bad. And our CBs are young and not that good CTB shouldn't be a #1 CB.

We miss Reader and Bates.

Our defensive draft picks haven't worked out.

Carter was a 3rd Round pick. Waived.

Murphy, Hill, etc are mediocre so far.

We blitz, we get beat with throws. We don't blitz, we get no pressure.

Then, we can't stop the run so we have to play 1 dimensional guys like Guy that get no rush.

I'm not a fan of Lou, but there's only so much you can do when your talent level is bad.

[Gdale_Bengal]

Them not putting enough early picks and signing enough veteran line help has almost single handedly destroyed this defense.

[THE PISTONS]

(3 hours ago)Gdale_Bengal Wrote: Them not putting enough early picks and signing enough veteran line help has almost single handedly destroyed this defense.

Well, the picked Murphy and Jenkins and Carter high. Those guys just aren't players yet.

[THE PISTONS]

It's hard to replace a DJ Reader with a rookie. Just like it was hard to replace Whitworth.

[Nicomo Cosca]

(3 hours ago)THE PISTONS Wrote: It's hard to replace a DJ Reader with a rookie. Just like it was hard to replace Whitworth.

They miss Bates far more than Reader, and I was a huge Reader guy. The defense fell apart when Bates left.

[Gdale_Bengal]

(3 hours ago)THE PISTONS Wrote: Well, the picked Murphy and Jenkins and Carter high. Those guys just aren't players yet.

Murphy doesn’t play inside, Jenkins was injured and drafted this year and Carter was drafted as a project. He isn’t on the team now.

[Frank Booth]

(3 hours ago)THE PISTONS Wrote: It's hard to replace a DJ Reader with a rookie. Just like it was hard to replace Whitworth.

yep. the bad o-line drafts ended the dalton era

these bad d-line whiffs? in the burrow era? we'll see

[007BengalsFan]

(3 hours ago)THE PISTONS Wrote: To me, the defensive issues aren't scheme. The line is bad
This hurts LB play. And the safeties are slow and bad. And our CBs are young and not that good CTB shouldn't be a #1 CB.

We miss Reader and Bates.

Our defensive draft picks haven't worked out.

Carter was a 3rd Round pick. Waived.

Murphy, Hill, etc are mediocre so far.

We blitz, we get beat with throws. We don't blitz, we get no pressure.

Then, we can't stop the run so we have to play 1 dimensional guys like Guy that get no rush.

I'm not a fan of Lou, but there's only so much you can do when your talent level is bad.

I have given Lou the benefit of the doubt because it was his defense that carried us to the Superbowl and since that time we have let the talent leave.  Im not sure if Lou is the answer at DC right now but he certainly doesnt have the talent on defense other teams do.  People keep saying he's bad and maybe he is but there is a lack of talent on this defense that would be hard for any DC to overcome.

[Bengalbug]

(3 hours ago)Gdale_Bengal Wrote: Them not putting enough early picks and signing enough veteran line help has almost single handedly destroyed this defense.

Bad take brother. Just day 1 and 2 picks

2024 - Jenkins and Jackson
2023 - Murphy, Turner, battle
2022 - hill, Taylor Britt, Carter
2021 - ossai
2020 - Wilson
2019 - Pratt

19 total picks in rounds 1-3, since Taylor took over, 11 on defense.

Rankins, Hill, Hendrickson, this doesn’t include Larry O, reader in past years.

It’s not for a lack of effort and assets.

[Whatever]

(3 hours ago)THE PISTONS Wrote: Well, the picked Murphy and Jenkins and Carter high. Those guys just aren't players yet.

Also, Ossai.

[Gdale_Bengal]

(3 hours ago)Bengalbug Wrote: Bad take brother. Just day 1 and 2 picks

2024 - Jenkins and Jackson
2023 - Murphy, Turner, battle
2022 - hill, Taylor Britt, Carter
2021 - ossai
2020 - Wilson
2019 - Pratt

19 total picks in rounds 1-3, since Taylor took over, 11 on defense.

Rankins, Hill, Hendrickson, this doesn’t include Larry O, reader in past years.

It’s not for a lack of effort and assets.

Defensive line? When did Wilson, Pratt, Turner, Battle, Hill, CTB play defensive line?

They cannot stop the run. At all. Putting the run stuffing on 2 rookies is bad . Has Jackson played a down yet?