Bengals release Sheldon Rankins

[*pally*]

(Yesterday, 04:39 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: It was a virus, not bacteria

But yeah, I don't know anything that is sex-specific unless it involves reproductive organs: we can all get the same things.


I definitely remember someone bringing up VM, just can't remember if it was here or on Twitter...


EDIT* Huh, it was actually around the New Year, my mistake!

https://thebengalsboard.com/thread-39788-post-1555390.html#pid1555390

Thank you, Wyche :)

Viruses don’t discriminate either ?

[*jason*]

I didn't know he played for the Bengals.

[Tomcat]

(Yesterday, 03:12 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I thought only Chicks get that 

Well, i'm not a "chick" and i had it. I waited 2 days before heading to the hospital and the Doc said if it was Bacterial Meningitis i would've been dead in 2 days!

[*bfine32*]

(Yesterday, 04:39 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: It was a virus, not bacteria

(Yesterday, 04:45 PM)pally Wrote: Viruses don’t discriminate either ?

(Yesterday, 05:07 PM)Tomcat Wrote: Well, i'm not a "chick" and i had it. 

Oh, you guys said "Viral" 

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 04:29 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: Favor Grant over Nolen because he could start, with McKinnley backing him up. Then some BJ Hill with Jenkins backing him up, maybe even supplanting him by the end of the season.. I feel good about that interior.

Then adding an edge rusher in FA as you stated...


Good times!

Sounds great to me Rugby. I also am liking Grant more than Nolen now that I heard about Nolen's character issues. Grant could start 
right off the bat and really help our run Defense and he can also rush the passer, perfect fit for our needs. This allows both McKinnley 
and Kris to grow behind BJ and Kenneth.

Josh Sweat in FA and it is looking good around here.

(Yesterday, 04:35 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: My biggest issue is with the coaching staff marching him out there when he is hurt, and thus hurting the team.

Put him on IR, let him get healthy, and let the younger players develop or flop.

Yeah, thankfully we don't have that coaching staff here anymore. Major mistake, you don't start a player that is hurt over players that
are not. Ossai was clearly our best pass rusher besides Trey last season, should of played him just to see if he developed or flopped 
like you say. Sam can come back and be a backup and run stopper for us for cheap if he is not washed up.

[*ochocincos*]

Most logical cut given the freed up cap space, (lack of) tenure with the Bengals, and (lack of) games played during that tenure for whatever reasons.

The cut(s) after Rankins will be the interesting one(s).

[c766]

Second most useless bengal of the last 15 years?

Antonio Bryant being #1

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 06:05 PM)c766 Wrote: Second most useless bengal of the last 15 years?

Antonio Bryant being #1

Waynes was pretty invisible too as a Bengal.

[*bfine32*]

(Yesterday, 06:05 PM)c766 Wrote: Second most useless bengal of the last 15 years?

Antonio Bryant being #1

(Yesterday, 06:06 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Waynes was pretty invisible too as a Bengal.

[007BengalsFan]

(Yesterday, 04:35 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: My biggest issue is with the coaching staff marching him out there when he is hurt, and thus hurting the team.

Put him on IR, let him get healthy, and let the younger players develop or flop.

I dont believe the injury excuse.  If Hubbard was injured that bad and needed to be put on the IR he could have been.  Orlando Brown Jr. didnt have a problem telling the coaching staff if he was able and ready to play.  Higgins had no trouble telling the coaching staff he couldnt play games.  Kris Jenkins with his broken thumb was able to tell the coaching staff when he was ready to give it a try.  Mckinnley Jackson was able to tell the coaching staff when his right knee was good enough to play.  Hubbard has been bad the last two years.  If the Bengals dont cut him and Hubbard has his 3rd bad year in a row, is the excuse going to be he was injured again and the coaching staff made him play?  I dont buy it.  I think its nonsense.

[FormerlyBengalRugby]

(Yesterday, 07:19 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: I dont believe the injury excuse.  If Hubbard was injured that bad and needed to be put on the IR he could have been.  Orlando Brown Jr. didnt have a problem telling the coaching staff if he was able and ready to play.  Higgins had no trouble telling the coaching staff he couldnt play games.  Kris Jenkins with his broken thumb was able to tell the coaching staff when he was ready to give it a try.  Mckinnley Jackson was able to tell the coaching staff when his right knee was good enough to play.  Hubbard has been bad the last two years.  If the Bengals dont cut him and Hubbard has his 3rd bad year in a row, is the excuse going to be he was injured again and the coaching staff made him play?  I dont buy it.  I think its nonsense.

Fair points.

[SunsetBengal]

(Yesterday, 04:59 PM)jason Wrote: I didn't know he played for the Bengals.

Yeah, the Bengals FO version of the "Oh Shit, we don't have a NT heading into the season" move. In typical fashion, they hired and overpaid a washed-up, has been-never-was but a one season flash type of player who happened to benefit from playing on a few high profile teams along the way.

[Joelist]

Let's remember Rankins was not intended to be a NT when signed but rather an attempt to get interior pass rush back which we haven't had since Ogunjobi. They obviously also planned to get a new NT but that never materialized. It left our DT room with a swarm of 3Ts and the closest thing to a NT was actually Tufele. Rankins contracting Meningitis and the injuries to Jenkins and Jackson did not help things. That was how we actually rolled Lawrence Guy out there a couple of games. I'm assuming we will be looking for a big ol NT in Free Agency and/or may go for Jamaree Caldwell in Rd 3 of the draft.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(Yesterday, 03:28 PM)Joelist Wrote: The only surprise is it was a straight release and not an injury/illness settlement.

Non-Football Injury/Illness, no protection outside of what you specifically negotiated for in your contract.

Also an injury settlement is for when a player gets hurt doing football activities during the season and you want to cut them. The doctor says "their injury will be healed in 5 weeks and then they're capable of finding a job elsewhere" so you negotiate how many weeks of their salary the team will pay until they're capable of trying out with another team, and there are no salaries in the offseason. Rankins has long been "healthy" he just needs to put back on weight, which is not an injury even if it was a football-related one.

It's NOT injury guarantees in a contract. If you don't have guarantees then you don't have any right to the money.

[Mer]

Is our old friend Billings a FA this off season? I really only focus on the Bengals and only watch other teams if they're playing them, but I believe I remember a few of you saying he's really improved in Chicago.

[SunsetBengal]

(Yesterday, 10:03 PM)Mer Wrote: Is our old friend Billings a FA this off season? I really only focus on the Bengals and only watch other teams if they're playing them, but I believe I remember a few of you saying he's really improved in Chicago.

Nah, he only played 8 games last year due to injury. His best overall season to date was his last year with the Bengals. I mean he'd be great in a rotation for some veteran leadership, I just would hope that the team wouldn't sign him for more than $5-6M.

[Essex Johnson]

(Yesterday, 03:38 PM)pally Wrote: They won't release Sam immediately, they will try a restructure with a massive pay cut first

I hope that happens, a healthy Hubbard can still add to the team and has other important variables 

[pulses]

(Yesterday, 10:03 PM)Mer Wrote: Is our old friend Billings a FA this off season? I really only focus on the Bengals and only watch other teams if they're playing them, but I believe I remember a few of you saying he's really improved in Chicago.

If we were gonna sign another veteran I like Adam Butler much better

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

(Yesterday, 03:38 PM)pally Wrote: They won't release Sam immediately, they will try a restructure with a massive pay cut first

Most of the guys who are cut candidates from here, and all the large contract guys,: Hubbard, Cappa, Pratt, Stone. I would not release them until a replacement is in hand. 

We have about $60 mil in space now, even without a Burrow restructure. More than enough to get Tee signed and do the Chase/Hendrickson extensions. The latter two being extensions, the vap hitcthere will only be the prorated signing bonus. 

Even if Tee comes on at $30, the latter two are likely only around $15 total. $15 mil to spare. $34 if you get the Burrow restructure done. 

Heck, that's enough for Gesicki, Hilton, & Hill and then some, if we want. 

FWIW, we had 9 guys grade out at 70+ at PFF (who played significant snaps). Burrow (93.9), Chase (85.8), and Hendrickson (88.1) are obvious. Chase Brown (75.7) & Logan Wilson(72.3) less so. The other 4? Higgins (88.2), Hilton (75.9), Gesicki (71.5), and BJ Hill (70.2). 

Anyway, even the 2nd tier cut candidates like Moss & Volson, I'd wait until we have upgrades lined up (or drafted) before I cut them loose. 

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

Again, it is also possible that Hibbard and Cappa, if healthy, could return to form.