Posts: 19,873
Threads: 636
Reputation:
87129
Joined: Oct 2016
(03-07-2025, 12:45 PM)Goalpost Wrote: Just saw one mock where 18 defensive linemen were picked by the end of round 2. It's a deep draft there.
Yep. I think I heard them say that on NFL Live.
Of course, out of that 18, maybe 2 will be really great players. If that.
Posts: 175
Threads: 4
Reputation:
1025
Joined: Mar 2020
(03-07-2025, 12:39 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: So what NFL Team would want to give up a 1st or 2nd Round pick AND give Trey like a 4 year $150-160 million contract?
IF he were a free agent, some team might give him that contract. But, with a 1st Round pick you get a young, cost controlled player.
Let's say the Chargers who pick 22 wanted Trey.
At 22, Mykel Williams should be there. Kenneth Grant a DT from Michigan. JT Tuimolau an Edge from Ohio State.
I agree, but none of those players you listed have the track record Trey has, especially for a team that is in "Win now" mode!
Posts: 679
Threads: 0
Reputation:
2693
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 679
Threads: 0
Reputation:
2693
Joined: Apr 2019
(03-06-2025, 06:23 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: So let me get this straight... It’s ok to let Hendrickson walk because they can just draft a DE
...but injury proned number 2 receiver Tee Higgins is irreplaceable?
They should trade Tee also, unless he takes less than 30 a year, which he won't.
Posts: 936
Threads: 3
Reputation:
8825
Joined: Oct 2017
Based on draft needs, 17 Teams need Edge help. Taking NO out of the equation due to salary cap issues, that leaves 16 Teams.
NE has the highest cap room.....
Buffalo, KC, Detroit, Washington, Philly and GB have late second round picks.
Titans, Panthers, CHI, ATL, AZ and NE have early second and early third rounders.
If this goes through, I would package a pick to get into early second round, where we could still address D-Line. The talent falls off drastically after top-50.
Posts: 28,724
Threads: 358
Reputation:
250925
Joined: Aug 2016
They’re reportedly looking for a late 2nd or early 3rd for Trey. Talk about an underwhelming return for an All Pro/DPOY finalist.
Posts: 27,206
Threads: 669
Reputation:
258208
Joined: May 2015
Location: Jackson, OH
(03-07-2025, 01:15 PM)XsandOs Wrote: Based on draft needs, 17 Teams need Edge help. Taking NO out of the equation due to salary cap issues, that leaves 16 Teams.
NE has the highest cap room.....
Buffalo, KC, Detroit, Washington, Philly and GB have late second round picks.
Titans, Panthers, CHI, ATL, AZ and NE have early second and early third rounders.
If this goes through, I would package a pick to get into early second round, where we could still address D-Line. The talent falls off drastically after top-50.
NE has 9 picks in this draft and plenty of money to work with. Their top picks are #4, 38, 69 and 77. It's been said that the Bengals are looking to get a late 2nd to early 3rd round pick in exchange for Hendrickson. The Bengals could ask for pick #38, to which NE might suggest #77, and they could settle at pick #69. NE has enough mid and late round picks to where they could easily trade back up into that range if they see someone they want. The Bengals, on the other hand only have 6 picks total. If they can get anything close to a top 50 pick, it would be a minor victory.
Still would rather have a quality player, one with a few good years left in him, in exchange for Trey.
Volson is meh, but I like him, and he has far exceeded my expectations
-Frank Booth 1/9/23
Posts: 3,494
Threads: 108
Reputation:
19772
Joined: May 2015
(03-07-2025, 01:18 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: They’re reportedly looking for a late 2nd or early 3rd for Trey. Talk about an underwhelming return for an All Pro/DPOY finalist.
I don’t believe the trade compensation, necessarily. That said, Leanord Williams was traded for a 2 and a 5. That was his age 29 season, so slightly younger, but Trey is coming off back to back 17.5 sack seasons.
I still maintain the position that you try and bring back a player and pick, knowing you won’t get back a young cornerstone of equal value.
Titans - Harold Landry and their 3rd
Colts - Deforest Buckner and their 2nd, we give up some later pick.
Washington - Jonathan Allen and their 2nd
These are all somewhat cap casualties, so maybe you could secure their services if/when cut. But their salaries are less than what Trey costs and they help fill a void while also getting an additional dart to throw.
Posts: 13,963
Threads: 371
Reputation:
47635
Joined: May 2015
I'm sure they talked with teams about compensation at the Scouting Combine...
I also agree it can't be ruled out that he returns if he doesn't get the deal he is seeking from another team. Remember just as we acknowledged the deep draft class at end, other teams see it too.
![[Image: 4CV0TeR.png]](https://i.imgur.com/4CV0TeR.png)
Quote:"Success doesn’t mean every single move they make is good" ~ Anonymous
"Let not the dumb have to educate" ~ jj22
Posts: 3,494
Threads: 108
Reputation:
19772
Joined: May 2015
(03-07-2025, 01:23 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: NE has 9 picks in this draft and plenty of money to work with. Their top picks are #4, 38, 69 and 77. It's been said that the Bengals are looking to get a late 2nd to early 3rd round pick in exchange for Hendrickson. The Bengals could ask for pick #38, to which NE might suggest #77, and they could settle at pick #69. NE has enough mid and late round picks to where they could easily trade back up into that range if they see someone they want. The Bengals, on the other hand only have 6 picks total. If they can get anything close to a top 50 pick, it would be a minor victory.
Still would rather have a quality player, one with a few good years left in him, in exchange for Trey.
I concur with the last part. See my last post about potential landing spots and folks to bring back.
Posts: 13,963
Threads: 371
Reputation:
47635
Joined: May 2015
I'm not giving up Hendrickson for anything other than a 1st. He can sit out camp and threaten to retire. Teams understand the need for pass rush. You don't give up the leading sack holder for nothing. I don't care the age. Look for teams picking from 20-32, if they want pass rush help it's well worth the proven talent then drafting one that may need a year.
You can say that about us too if we draft 2 pass rushers in the 1st with the additional pick, but our defense needs more help then 1 player. They aren't a pass rush away from a SB. Any SB we get next season will be on the backs of the Offense. I have to assume those teams picking 20-32 think they are 1 player away (many do) which makes a difference in giving up a 1st.
Quote:"Success doesn’t mean every single move they make is good" ~ Anonymous
"Let not the dumb have to educate" ~ jj22
Posts: 3,494
Threads: 108
Reputation:
19772
Joined: May 2015
(03-07-2025, 01:36 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: I don’t believe the trade compensation, necessarily. That said, Leanord Williams was traded for a 2 and a 5. That was his age 29 season, so slightly younger, but Trey is coming off back to back 17.5 sack seasons.
I still maintain the position that you try and bring back a player and pick, knowing you won’t get back a young cornerstone of equal value.
Titans - Harold Landry and their 3rd
Colts - Deforest Buckner and their 2nd, we give up some later pick.
Washington - Jonathan Allen and their 2nd
These are all somewhat cap casualties, so maybe you could secure their services if/when cut. But their salaries are less than what Trey costs and they help fill a void while also getting an additional dart to throw.
Zadarius Smith and a lions second could also make sense.
Posts: 6,173
Threads: 886
Reputation:
15605
Joined: May 2015
(03-07-2025, 01:02 PM)PCB Bengal Fan Wrote: They should trade Tee also, unless he takes less than 30 a year, which he won't.
Duke Tobin says they did not tag Higgins to trade him. They tagged Higgins to have more time to sign him long term. Bengals want not just Burrow already long term, but Chase and Higgins long term also.
We as fans can talk about what we would do if we were Owners, GM or Coaches, but that fact is we aren't. I again question this story that Bengals give Hendrickson the power to negotiate his own trade. If Hendrickson gets traded it will be something Bengals front office and another teams front office agree on. It could be story is wrong and Tobin has plans of Hendrickson here in 2025. I will believe Hendrickson traded only if it happens. There is a lot not to believe about this Hendrickson internet news story, especially a player being gave the power to negotiate his own trade, teams don't do that.
1968 Bengal Fan
Posts: 37,385
Threads: 49
Reputation:
243226
Joined: May 2015
Location: Star Valley, Wyoming
(03-07-2025, 01:10 AM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: He was also considering retirement last year.
I could see him retiring if he gets a big contract and then wins a Super Bowl and just riding off into the sunset.
It is possible I guess. Hope it is us that gives him the big contract and wins the Super Bowl then...
There are good arguments on all sides of this. Trey has great value being the sack leader, but is it enough value for another team to
give up a late 1st round pick and pay him 35 million per year? Because I think that is what it would take for the Bengals to make a
Trey trade. Trey could very well shop around and come back and sign for 32 mil per year and it wouldn't surprise me and we are all
happy and Trey is a Bengal for the foreseeable future, we will see how this plays out.
Posts: 37,385
Threads: 49
Reputation:
243226
Joined: May 2015
Location: Star Valley, Wyoming
(03-07-2025, 01:15 PM)XsandOs Wrote: Based on draft needs, 17 Teams need Edge help. Taking NO out of the equation due to salary cap issues, that leaves 16 Teams.
NE has the highest cap room.....
Buffalo, KC, Detroit, Washington, Philly and GB have late second round picks.
Titans, Panthers, CHI, ATL, AZ and NE have early second and early third rounders.
If this goes through, I would package a pick to get into early second round, where we could still address D-Line. The talent falls off drastically after top-50.
We will see how FA shapes out. A lot of these EDGE needy teams could get one in FA. But yeah, the value for EDGE should go down
drastically by the time our 2nd round pick comes around.
Posts: 23
Threads: 0
Reputation:
80
Joined: Mar 2020
What does everyone think of this? Not sure if it has been shared here.
https://bvmsports.com/2025/03/07/raiders-to-trade-michael-mayer-for-bengals-star-edge-rusher-hendrickson/
Hendrickson for TE Mayer and a 3rd
Posts: 37,385
Threads: 49
Reputation:
243226
Joined: May 2015
Location: Star Valley, Wyoming
(03-07-2025, 03:54 PM)Danger Zone Wrote: What does everyone think of this? Not sure if it has been shared here.
https://bvmsports.com/2025/03/07/raiders-to-trade-michael-mayer-for-bengals-star-edge-rusher-hendrickson/
Hendrickson for TE Mayer and a 3rd
I would like the Raiders 1st round pick and I am sure that is what the Bengals would want. That isn't a good trade for us.
Mayer has been a bust so far, but if we got the Raiders early pick for Trey and Mayer of course I would be for it. The Raiders get Trey,
our pick at 17 and we get their first round pick and Mayer. Sounds good.
Posts: 7,126
Threads: 109
Reputation:
53095
Joined: May 2016
(03-07-2025, 03:54 PM)Danger Zone Wrote: What does everyone think of this? Not sure if it has been shared here.
https://bvmsports.com/2025/03/07/raiders-to-trade-michael-mayer-for-bengals-star-edge-rusher-hendrickson/
Hendrickson for TE Mayer and a 3rd
Screw that deal. Maybe Trey for Mayer/1st round pick swap and their 3rd.
Did Brad write that article? 
Posts: 23
Threads: 0
Reputation:
80
Joined: Mar 2020
While I was all for the Bengals drafting Mayer I do agree with you, also I'd prefer Pitts if we are talking former 1st round TEs.
With that said I don't see the Bengals getting a 1st unless it's a swap. Something like Bears send 10th overall and a 3rd for Hendrickson and 17th overall.
Posts: 97
Threads: 0
Reputation:
298
Joined: Jan 2016
I’m thinking Hendrickson to Atlanta for Pitts and their 2nd round.
|
