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BREAKING: Bengals give Trey Hendrickson permission to be traded
(03-07-2025, 04:57 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: You can do your own research here.  Trey gets us to around 12.

https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp

I dont care what a draft chart says.  Common sense should dictate its not worth losing an All Pro, NFL sack leader to move up 4 or 5 spots in the draft.
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(03-07-2025, 05:05 PM)masonbengals fan Wrote: And the likelihood is they won't. 

This franchise is so frustrating. 

I hope I'm wrong. 

My thoughts as well. Trey might be getting older but we are losing our best player on D. Hell of a job to replace the sack master. 
I know they signed him out of FA and that worked out so well but I’m not confident of their capabilities of doing it again. And x 2 as well to actually improve that area. 
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(03-07-2025, 04:25 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: Trey and 17 may get us to pick 13, if reports of a late 2nd to early third is true. It would take Trey, 17 and next years first (and maybe more).

Trey, Tee and our 17 might get there.

#6 is off the table. Not worth another discussion.

How sad is That. In theory, Trey moves you up 4 spots in the first round. Which is why I’m in favor of tanking the last two years when it was obvious we weren’t going to make playoffs or a serious run.
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Something to consider...

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(03-07-2025, 05:04 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Teams dont give uo a lot of draft capital for players with high salaries or coming off injury. Trey was a workhorse and make peanuts compared to Watt and Crosby for example.

Bengals would be stupid to trade Trey to move up 4 spots. I think Bengals will get mutiple offers with a 1st round included, team buying has Trey for 16 million, a steal. 
The question may be if Bengals will pull the trigger.

You made very compelling points on his value.

Bears gave Raiders 4 draft picks for DE Mack including 2 first round picks. Trey won't commande as much, but a lot more than some think in my humble opinion.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/09/01/how-khalil-mack-trade-from-raiders-to-bears-changed-nfl-daily-cover

At the time, teams seldomly relinquished their first-round picks. But that changed Sept. 1, 2018, cutdown day in the NFL, after the Raiders traded Mack to the Bears for a handful of draft picks, including two first-round selections. That had been the first NFL trade in nine years involving multiple first-round picks going to one team for a veteran player.


Before Mack, the Bears sent two first-round picks to the Broncos for quarterback Jay Cutler in 2009. Mack had also been the first veteran defensive player to be traded for multiple first-round picks since 1988, when the Colts acquired linebacker Fredd Young from the Seahawks.

It was also his age 27 season…
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(03-07-2025, 05:50 PM)QueenCity Wrote: Something to consider...

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I do agree with this. But he’s still at least a 12 sack guy which is damn good.
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(03-07-2025, 05:17 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: I dont care what a draft chart says.  Common sense should dictate its not worth losing an All Pro, NFL sack leader to move up 4 or 5 spots in the draft.

Ok. You’re right. Everyone else is wrong.
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(03-07-2025, 05:51 PM)Ell Prez Wrote: I do agree with this. But he’s still at least a 12 sack guy which is damn good.

Not for 30 million and an aging player... I think Bengals should trade him and as long as they hit FA hard and get some DE in the building.
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New report on bengals trade compensation. Pulled from a resource, not my content.

People I’ve spoken to believe Cincinnati wants either a first-round pick or a strong Day 2 package to ship Hendrickson, who will command well above $30 million per year on a new deal."
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ESPN Jeremy Fowler is reporting the Bengals want a 1st or a high 2nd for Trey.

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(03-07-2025, 03:56 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I would like the Raiders 1st round pick and I am sure that is what the Bengals would want. That isn't a good trade for us.

Mayer has been a bust so far, but if we got the Raiders early pick for Trey and Mayer of course I would be for it. The Raiders get Trey,
our pick at 17 and we get their first round pick and Mayer. Sounds good.
Been a bust so far, which is golden for us because bringing him back home where he's comfortable should unleash his potential! 
(03-07-2025, 04:08 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Brad would love it lol

DAMN SKIPPY! I'M OVER HERE WITH A BULGE IN MY PANTS!

Hilarious

Luckily, Hendrickson just had a monster year and teams might be thinking he's still in his prime, but he is 30, which might lower his trade value.

I'd love Mayer, but can we really afford to lose that much of a pass rush for our defense? 

We need to be sure that we can bring in one or two of the free agent ends that have been mentioned.

This would be AMAZING and if he has a big year or years, you better believe I'm expecting my rep points to be in the millions! That's especially true considering how bad Murphy has been.

Hilarious
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(03-07-2025, 05:51 PM)Ell Prez Wrote: I do agree with this. But he’s still at least a 12 sack guy which is damn good.

If you were playing the Bengals or pass heavy teams that drop back 50 to 60 times a game, he might be worth it. 

But is he worth it to us that need to pay two high priced WR soon and play in the AFC North where we worry more about stopping the run then the pass.

We can cry about lack of sacks all we want but not being able to stop the run and contain mobile QB is the reason we didn't make the playoffs.
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(03-07-2025, 04:30 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: If Trey sits out he could lose about 1 million per game. He would never recoup the lost income. i agree, Trey will not sit out in 2025 and if here on same contract has no choice but to give 100%, he is playing again for a new contract.

A team will have to offer a ton in draft capital as his 16 million base is very low for the sack leader in the NFL. Bengals will have to be motivated to give up their best defensive player. If not a great offer, I thin Bengals so no and Trey plays for us in 2025.

I bet he signs the new offer on the table rather than just playing on the same contract he currently has. It is still a ton of dough.

32 mil per year is more than fair. It is when he is wanting 35+ mil per year like Crosby where it is a little excessive to the FO I am sure.
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(03-07-2025, 05:51 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: Ok.  You’re right. Everyone else is wrong.

Im not saying Im right or wrong just that it should be common sense your dont trade an All Pro defensive end who led the league in sacks to move up 4 spots in the draft.  Does that sound like a good idea to anybody?  Lose Hendrickson to move up 4 spots?  I cant believe anyone would think that's a good idea or a fair trade.
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(03-07-2025, 06:15 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: Im not saying Im right or wrong just that it should be common sense your dont trade an All Pro defensive end who led the league in sacks to move up 4 spots in the draft.  Does that sound like a good idea to anybody?  Lose Hendrickson to move up 4 spots?  I cant believe anyone would think that's a good idea or a fair trade.

It is not a good idea. Would much rather swap picks with the Raiders while adding another 2nd round pick and a player than just moving up 4 spots.
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(03-07-2025, 06:19 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: It is not a good idea. Would much rather swap picks with the Raiders while adding another 2nd round pick and a player than just moving up 4 spots.

Hendrickson and 17 is just likely not enough to get to 6.
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(03-07-2025, 05:55 PM)Synric Wrote: ESPN Jeremy Fowler is reporting the Bengals want a 1st or a high 2nd for Trey.

That is more realistic and believable.  The reporting of a low 2nd or early 3rd made no sense.  Why would the Bengals take a 3rd this year when they could keep Hendrickson for his final year and get a 3rd round comp pick next year after Hendrickson left as a free agent.
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If they can drum up some competition for the trade they can possibly get more. Having more than 1 team interested is good news.
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(03-07-2025, 06:21 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: Hendrickson and 17 is just likely not enough to get to 6.

Yeah, but that is more like what his value should be being the NFL sack leader.

Have to at least get an extra early 2nd round pick for him to even talk. Preferably a late 1st round pick.

(03-07-2025, 06:22 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: That is more realistic and believable.  The reporting of a low 2nd or early 3rd made no sense.  Why would the Bengals take a 3rd this year when they could keep Hendrickson for his final year and get a 3rd round comp pick next year after Hendrickson left as a free agent.

A low 2nd or early 3rd is not even in the wheelhouse.
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(03-07-2025, 01:23 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: NE has 9 picks in this draft and plenty of money to work with. Their top picks are #4, 38, 69 and 77. It's been said that the Bengals are looking to get a late 2nd to early 3rd round pick in exchange for Hendrickson. The Bengals could ask for pick #38, to which NE might suggest #77, and they could settle at pick #69. NE has enough mid and late round picks to where they could easily trade back up into that range if they see someone they want. The Bengals, on the other hand only have 6 picks total. If they can get anything close to a top 50 pick, it would be a minor victory.

Still would rather have a quality player, one with a few good years left in him, in exchange for Trey.
I agree. If the salary makes sense, we get an established NFL player. The draft pick will be cheaper, but a gamble in terms of future production - and when that future production could come. 
I would like a G or DT. Awful tough to get immediate production from draft picks, due to adjustment to physicality of NFL for the positions.  
(03-07-2025, 03:29 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: We will see how FA shapes out. A lot of these EDGE needy teams could get one in FA. But yeah, the value for EDGE should go down 
drastically by the time our 2nd round pick comes around.
Makes sense. We are in a good place because there is no one in FA with Trey's credentials, and Teams who are in "win now" mode don't have top-15 picks to get Carter or Pearce.
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