They're Done!!! Our long wait is over

[jj22]

(03-17-2025, 09:36 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Multi-player deals, especially with players like Chase and Tee, take time. People have no patience anymore. 

They've been having these contract issues with these two for the last 2-3 years. Patience was tested. You can give fans a little leeway. Even Burrow himself had succumb to speaking out on it. 

[Luvnit2]

(03-17-2025, 10:06 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: We saw all of the guards on their current roster play last year. These are 3-4 year players we are talking about. They are who they are and they are BAD players, no offensive line coach is going to turn them around. 

They aren't servicable, they are BAD. Rolling them out there to start week 1 is a completely irrisponsible. 

Step 1 was to cut the worst starting guard on our roster who was set to make way too much money.

Bengals have been tsoo loyal in t he past (opposite of cheap keeping players who underperform their contracts. Step 2 is to replace Cappa with a better guard in FA. In my opinion step 3 may be draft the future other starting guard in the 2025 draft.

I see Bengals keeping Trey and adding a pass rushing edge with pick #17. The draft option needs are closing. I think they will closed further prior to teh draft.

Needs Now through FA and or draft
2 OG's
Pass rushing Edge/DE
I think we need a more dynamic saftey to replace Stone

A healthy CB room will greatly improve the defense
Slayton will improve the run defense
The 2 2nd year DT's will improve the defense after going through injuries and inexperience in 2025
I see a healthy Wilson helping our defense
I see Pratt being kept and coached up in 2025 or we draft his replacement in round 2 or 3
I see Yoshi continuing to improve and if we get anything out of Burton and Jones it is a plus

The biggie is I see the Bengals finally giving Joe a solid OL for first time since he took the reigns. Give Joe and extra half second to 1 second and defenses will be in dep trouble.

[Luvnit2]

(03-17-2025, 10:19 AM)jj22 Wrote: They've been having these contract issues with these two for the last 2-3 years. Patience was tested. You can give fans a little leeway. Even Burrow himself had succumb to speaking out on it. 

True, but it is one thing to lose patience and another to trash the FO. It gets very old when our own fans label our team cheap. The same team that now has made Tee a top paid WR at #5 and for the second time gave a player the highest contract ever given in NFL history for a non QB after they made JB the highest paid QB when they signd him.

Maybe time for some fans to end the insults or go root for another team.

[THE PISTONS]

Watch Tee play all 17 games this year.

[THE PISTONS]

(03-17-2025, 10:24 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Step 1 was to cut the worst starting guard on our roster who was set to make way too much money.

Bengals have been tsoo loyal in t he past (opposite of cheap keeping players who underperform their contracts. Step 2 is to replace Cappa with a better guard in FA. In my opinion step 3 may be draft the future other starting guard in the 2025 draft.

I see Bengals keeping Trey and adding a pass rushing edge with pick #17. The draft option needs are closing. I think they will closed further prior to teh draft.

Needs Now through FA and or draft
2 OG's
Pass rushing Edge/DE
I think we need a more dynamic saftey to replace Stone

A healthy CB room will greatly improve the defense
Slayton will improve the run defense
The 2 2nd year DT's will improve the defense after going through injuries and inexperience in 2025
I see a healthy Wilson helping our defense
I see Pratt being kept and coached up in 2025 or we draft his replacement in round 2 or 3
I see Yoshi continuing to improve and if we get anything out of Burton and Jones it is a plus

The biggie is I see the Bengals finally giving Joe a solid OL for first time since he took the reigns. Give Joe and extra half second to 1 second and defenses will be in dep trouble.

DE, Guard, or Safety in Round 1 I'd say. But, looking at mocks, leaning towards DE too.

Supposedly it's a deep draft for DLine.

[BengalsBong]

(03-17-2025, 03:53 AM)wanga Wrote: Good news. Beef up the line for Joe now. Then D D D please.

Get vet guards in FA then give the whole draft to the defense rebuild.

[Soonerpeace]

(03-17-2025, 09:33 AM)Sled21 Wrote: They're not going to trade Trey for less than a 1st, and teams aren't offering that. He'll be here this year one way or another.

They’re trying I’m told. His suitors have not come thru like he hoped I’m told.

[Soonerpeace]

(03-17-2025, 09:33 AM)Sled21 Wrote: They're not going to trade Trey for less than a 1st, and teams aren't offering that. He'll be here this year one way or another.

I think he’s stuck but the Bengals are trying to keep him.

[Gdale_Bengal]

(03-17-2025, 12:39 AM)Bengalion Wrote: Who Dey think gonna outscore the Bengals!

Everyone with the Swiss cheese D they got

[Ell Prez]

(03-17-2025, 06:57 AM)Clark W Griswold Wrote: So Tee got less than 30/year but could go over that with incentives? That’s good - probably based on playing time and/or performance

Also interesting that they reported that their agent told the Bengals no Chase extension unless Tee gets one, too.

Joe Burrow is running this show. He got exactly what he wanted (including Mike G) so his power play worked. Now they just have to go out and win a SB

I said this when Tee switched agents a long time ago. This was Tee and Chase’s leverage to get BOTH deals done. And I said it was mutually beneficial because the bengals didn’t have to negotiate with different agents who are both looking out for the player and for themselves (higher contract=higher commission).

[Soonerpeace]

(03-17-2025, 10:18 AM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Agree 100%. 

The Tee/Chase deals are a relief. But also a year/week late and coslier because of the delay. Both in terms of the $$ and opportunity cost during FA. 

In my book, these deals bring us from a D to a C this offseason. Cannot go higher than C/C- with the situation at G still so poor and with Slaton our biggest outside FA. 

An "A" offseason would be a Burrow restructure + a Trey deal + Jenkins & Scherff to solidify guard + another impactful signing or two on D (DE Smith, DT Campbell, S Simmons or Blackmon, CB Gillmore or Hilton, etc). 

I seriously doubt we get into A territory,,but I coukd see a B/B- from here. Trey + 1 guard. 

I think they get a vet guard but not a very good one. Then they draft one in the third. Then between Kirkland,Ford,Volson, and the mediocre free agent and the rookie they pick 2.

[Clark W Griswold]

Glad deals are done even though their waiting cost them money in the long run. Still have to get a G in FA and in the draft.
I know it’s a strong Edge class but I wouldn’t be surprised if if the Bengals went another way in the first.
They are probably keeping Trey, they re-signed Ossai (and Sample) and they still have a first round DE they just drafted a couple of years ago.

They could certainly use and edge rusher but now I don’t think they will take one in the first round.

[ERIC1]

(03-17-2025, 12:51 AM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yeah, no shit. We all knew it was done except the OTHERS that still think Mikey Boy runs the team.

Nice to see it official, but we need a Guard and everyone knows it. Trey can sign his 32 mil per year contract when he gets back from the trade waters.

I just want (don't like that word) hope that Tee talks to Housh about his yoga stuff that helped him get over his hammy issues.

and unless they get many other things "done" this team will  once again finish around .500..

[ERIC1]

(03-17-2025, 10:27 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: True, but it is one thing to lose patience and another to trash the FO. It gets very old when our own fans label our team cheap. The same team that now has made Tee a top paid WR at #5 and for the second time gave a player the highest contract ever given in NFL history for a non QB after they made JB the highest paid QB when they signd him.

Maybe time for some fans to end the insults or go root for another team.

1000%

[Luvnit2]

I hope everyone can agree our offense with very good with 2 lousy starting guards. Our defense was horrid. It was a combo of talent and injuries to key defensive players.

It is a luxaryin the NFL to only have tso fix one side of the ball. I would argue we also have very good specail teams. Our unter was great and I trust and like Money Mac.

I was not on the keep Higgins train, but I am hopeful our FO has watched others build their rosters by pushing cap to future years. If so, there is. no reason they can't continue to keep adding FA's.

I just heard Stephen Smith so Bengals redzone offense was 3rd worst in the NFL. If true, they need to fix it and sky is limit for our offense.

[Millhouse]

(03-17-2025, 10:12 AM)ochocincos Wrote: I think that's the point.

Is the team kind of in limbo right now with the current roster such that without really getting a boost from more/new talent, they just hover between 8-10 wins and maybe just get WC spots like the Dalton-era or Palmer-era Bengals?

While having Chase and Higgins obviously helps to not bottom out for 2026-2029, it doesn't really do much to improve the team from where it was last year.

If they don't hit on draft picks, we have to hope existing other players on the team really take the next steps to boost the overall performance of the team.
Burrow, Chase, Higgins, and Hendrickson are pretty much about as high as they can possibly go.

Right, which the bolded I agree for sure from a certain point of view. 

I am in the opinion though that if these deals didn't get done, then there was a pretty real chance a 2011 offseason could repeat itself in a similar full meltdown, simply because it actually happened with this front office. And if that was the case, well thankfully it wasn't.

So even though there is a lot of work to be done and the talent meter may not have moved yet,  these deals are far more important than not getting done, and it's not even close to me in regards to the chances of winning of a Super Bowl for at least the next few years. 

My post-deal prediction is that the Bengals should definitely be a playoff team, assuming they do prepare for the season differently this time around like Taylor hinted at (I think it was him?) And time will tell towards end of season if they are legit in making a Super Bowl run after making the playoffs.

[THE PISTONS]

(03-17-2025, 10:44 AM)BengalsBong Wrote: Get vet guards in FA then give the whole draft to the defense rebuild.

The thing with the draft is, we'll be lucky to get 1 guy capable of starting Day 1. And 2 quality starters out of the entire draft over their careers.

It's not like every guy will be playing.

You need special teamers in drafts and depth.

[Millhouse]

(03-17-2025, 10:27 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Maybe time for some fans to end the insults or go root for another team.

[*ochocincos*]

(03-17-2025, 11:20 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: The thing with the draft is, we'll be lucky to get 1 guy capable of starting Day 1. And 2 quality starters out of the entire draft over their careers.

It's not like every guy will be playing.

You need special teamers in drafts and depth.

They really only need 1 starter though, which is RG.
DE and DT can be a rotational/situational guy.
While not ideal, they can technically have Ossai start at DE and Jackson or Jenkins start at DT.

[George Cantstandya]

(03-17-2025, 10:35 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Watch Tee play all 17 games this year.

That would be great but hopefully more than 17 games this year.  20 games would be preferable.