Cap Tracker

[*ochocincos*]

(03-27-2025, 11:50 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: New cap numbers from Spotrac after Patrick added (all current players accounted for now)

$24,5 million - It went up 4 million (maybe closer to Over the Cap so both are now similar)

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cincinnati-bengals/cap/_/year/2025

Minus Draft Pool offset - 5.3 million
Minus Practice squad - 3.5 million
Minus 5 million injury pool

I estimate they still have over 10 million minimum after all is taken into account

If they needed more, they could restructure Joe Burrow and free uo esily another 10 to 15 million

Bengals have the cap space to add one or 2 players still, question becomes will they.

What's the deadline to get back under the cap? 
I still see the Rams still in the negative today, for example.

I bring this up because it seems the Bengals, yet again, are too conservative with the cap and could have done more the first 1-2 weeks of FA and worked to adjust afterwards as the dust settles rather than hold so much just in case.
Bengals could have gone and gotten 1 if not 2 more upgrades with the $10+ mill they still could use.
More than likely though, they'll say it's reserved for Hendrickson extension, which doesn't actually improve the team for 2025 even if he is extended.

[SunsetBengal]

(03-28-2025, 11:26 AM)ochocincos Wrote: What's the deadline to get back under the cap? 
I still see the Rams still in the negative today, for example.

I bring this up because it seems the Bengals, yet again, are too conservative with the cap and could have done more the first 1-2 weeks of FA and worked to adjust afterwards as the dust settles rather than hold so much just in case.
Bengals could have gone and gotten 1 if not 2 more upgrades with the $10+ mill they still could use.
More than likely though, they'll say it's reserved for Hendrickson extension, which doesn't actually improve the team for 2025 even if he is extended.

That's a good question. Everything that I read says that day was back on the 12th.

[Luvnit2]

(03-28-2025, 11:26 AM)ochocincos Wrote: What's the deadline to get back under the cap? 
I still see the Rams still in the negative today, for example.

I bring this up because it seems the Bengals, yet again, are too conservative with the cap and could have done more the first 1-2 weeks of FA and worked to adjust afterwards as the dust settles rather than hold so much just in case.
Bengals could have gone and gotten 1 if not 2 more upgrades with the $10+ mill they still could use.
More than likely though, they'll say it's reserved for Hendrickson extension, which doesn't actually improve the team for 2025 even if he is extended.

I may be wrong, but it seems based on tracking it, all teams have to be under the cap by Wednesday at 4  p.m. of each week once the league year began on Wednesday March 12.

[PCB Bengal Fan]

(03-28-2025, 09:21 AM)ERIC1 Wrote: team was playing remarkably well the last 6-7 games of the season..defensive rookies and even Murphy were playing lights out..this team teams maybe another guard and DE..and they should be fine..Ironically..even with said offensive line Bengals had no issues scoring...They will be in the playoffs this season..Smart moves were made..It was time for new voices and Lou and Pollack? had to go.

"defensive rookies and even Murphy were playing lights out.."
LOL.

[BenZoo2]

(03-27-2025, 11:50 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: New cap numbers from Spotrac after Patrick added (all current players accounted for now)

$24,5 million - It went up 4 million (maybe closer to Over the Cap so both are now similar)

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cincinnati-bengals/cap/_/year/2025

Minus Draft Pool offset - 5.3 million
Minus Practice squad - 3.5 million
Minus 5 million injury pool

I estimate they still have over 10 million minimum after all is taken into account

If they needed more, they could restructure Joe Burrow and free uo esily another 10 to 15 million

Bengals have the cap space to add one or 2 players still, question becomes will they.

This is with moss and Pratt still on the cap, right?  Once moss is cut and Pratt traded or cut (maybe) those would create more room.

[Luvnit2]

(03-28-2025, 02:28 PM)BenZoo2 Wrote: This is with moss and Pratt still on the cap, right?  Once moss is cut and Pratt traded or cut (maybe) those would create more room.

Yes

My guess is Moss is very likely gone since injured. That would gve us 3.3 million more. My hope is er replace Moss with our 5th round or 6th round pick, lots of very good running backs will still be avaiable. The rookie's contract is already calculated so no additional cap if we cut him and draft a RB.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(03-27-2025, 11:50 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Minus Draft Pool offset - 5.3 million
Minus Practice squad - 3.5 million
Minus 5 million injury pool

Meanwhile the Texans, Chiefs, Ravens, Bills, plus a handful of other teams don't even have $13.8m in cap space that they can trot out the annual list of reasons why they can't spend their cap space... and the Eagles just make more space whenever they want or need it.

[*ochocincos*]

(03-28-2025, 02:28 PM)BenZoo2 Wrote: This is with moss and Pratt still on the cap, right?  Once moss is cut and Pratt traded or cut (maybe) those would create more room.

(03-28-2025, 05:44 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Yes

My guess is Moss is very likely gone since injured. That would gve us 3.3 million more. My hope is er replace Moss with our 5th round or 6th round pick, lots of very good running backs will still be avaiable. The rookie's contract is already calculated so no additional cap if we cut him and draft a RB.

But that's the thing.
They have and had plenty of cap space to have signed another upgrade or two without going over.
They don't NEED to free up more.
But now most of the upgrades are gone.
There are still some options for Guard, but they've had 3 weeks to go get them and haven't yet.

I feel like the Bengals are so worried about next year and year after that that they never try to really go into the current season with a stacked roster.
Instead, they are waiting for pushed out cap for these true contender teams to catch up to them and the Bengals ascend to prominence that way, but it never happens.
Teams like the Chiefs and Eagles continue to find ways to kick the can down the road and get the most out of their draft picks quickly to compensate.

[SunsetBengal]

(03-28-2025, 06:57 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote:


Meanwhile the Texans, Chiefs, Ravens, Bills, plus a handful of other teams don't even have $13.8m in cap space that they can trot out the annual list of reasons why they can't spend their cap space... and the Eagles just make more space whenever they want or need it.

Hobson, Oh no!  The mouthpiece of the team hath spoketh...

[Luvnit2]

(03-28-2025, 07:08 PM)ochocincos Wrote: But that's the thing.
They have and had plenty of cap space to have signed another upgrade or two without going over.
They don't NEED to free up more.
But now most of the upgrades are gone.
There are still some options for Guard, but they've had 3 weeks to go get them and haven't yet.

I feel like the Bengals are so worried about next year and year after that that they never try to really go into the current season with a stacked roster.
Instead, they are waiting for pushed out cap for these true contender teams to catch up to them and the Bengals ascend to prominence that way, but it never happens.
Teams like the Chiefs and Eagles continue to find ways to kick the can down the road and get the most out of their draft picks quickly to compensate.

There is a long list of teams in need of a starting guard. This is the list from NFL network team needs.

Ravens
Cardinals
Cowboys
Dolphins
Lions
Seahawks
49ers
Eagles
Pats
Saints
Vikings
Chiefs

7 of the teams have more cap space than us, yet they also have yet to address it. One team KC created their need by trading Thuney likely due to cap issues.

I agree I wish the Bengals had some urgency. The issue is there is only 3 or 4 guys and 12 guard needy teams which creates a bigger market for good and not great guards. One is also hurt and still rehabbing. If it comes down to who has the most money, 7 teams can outbid us.

We are in the dark and have no idea if the FO is trying to get Hernandez, Risner, Scherff others. We do know the draft is weak and the guard free agent class is also weak.

[jfkbengals]

(03-28-2025, 05:44 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Moss is very likely gone since injured.

If he is injured, I’d imagine he can’t be a cap cut. Most players have an injury guarantee at the end of their first contract year. At best, they could reach a settlement, but it will still hit the cap. And chances are he would not be willing to settle for less than the injury guarantee.

[sandwedge]

(03-28-2025, 09:25 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: There is a long list of teams in need of a starting guard. This is the list from NFL network team needs.

Ravens
Cardinals
Cowboys
Dolphins
Lions
Seahawks
49ers
Eagles
Pats
Saints
Vikings
Chiefs

7 of the teams have more cap space than us, yet they also have yet to address it. One team KC created their need by trading Thuney likely due to cap issues.

I agree I wish the Bengals had some urgency. The issue is there is only 3 or 4 guys and 12 guard needy teams which creates a bigger market for good and not great guards. One is also hurt and still rehabbing. If it comes down to who has the most money, 7 teams can outbid us.

We are in the dark and have no idea if the FO is trying to get Hernandez, Risner, Scherff others. We do know the draft is weak and the guard free agent class is also weak.

I have actually read that Risner, Scherff could be waiting to sign somewhere after the offseason to save some tread on the tires. After reading this, it could be more valid.

[WeezyBengal]

(Yesterday, 11:40 AM)sandwedge Wrote: I have actually read that Risner, Scherff could be waiting to sign somewhere after the offseason to save some tread on the tires. After reading this, it could be more valid.

Allegedly the Bengals have an offer on the table for Schreff. 

I think something is going on at guard. Either they are in an agreement with someone or there is some kind of understanding there. No other way to justtify the complete neglect there. 

[Luvnit2]

(6 hours ago)WeezyBengal Wrote: Allegedly the Bengals have an offer on the table for Schreff. 

I think something is going on at guard. Either they are in an agreement with someone or there is some kind of understanding there. No other way to justtify the complete neglect there. 

I have not heard anything? Is this wishful thinking or do you have a reliable source?

I hioe we are pursuing him and others. Just crickets.