Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off

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The Bengals are alleging a conflict of interest from the county's non legal representative, David Abrams because he is also representing the Cleveland Browns.
And and it was Hamilton County who was alleging lack of communication from its own legal representative

[Luvnit2]

(05-15-2025, 03:16 PM)J24 Wrote: https://local12.com/news/local/hamilton-county-fires-law-firm-final-stretch-bengals-lease-negotiations-cincinnati-frost-brown-todd-dinsmore-shohl-connie-pillich-nfl-football-team-deal-lawyers-attorneys

Once again the Bengals are being accused of poor communication in a contract deal. We're dealing multiple dumbasses in this situation with both organization and county.

I did not realize, this is the law firm I use for my businesses. Should I be concerned?

I guess I am confused as I thought they had an agreement, but now maybe not??

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(05-15-2025, 06:53 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I did not realize, this is the law firm I use for my businesses. Should I be concerned?

I guess I am confused as I thought they had an agreement, but now maybe not??

they have an agreement on phase of the stadium renovation...what they don't have is a new lease

[Luvnit2]

(05-15-2025, 06:56 PM)pally Wrote: they have an agreement on phase of the stadium renovation...what they don't have is a new lease

TY

It makes no sense for the Bengals to rennoavate without a new lease agreement. It does make sense they needed the costs to know if they want to sign a new lease.

[Clark W Griswold]

I would think they all believe they are going to work this out for the long term otherwise why would they be pushing to try to host the draft in ‘28 or ‘29?

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(05-15-2025, 07:25 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: TY

It makes no sense for the Bengals to rennoavate without a new lease agreement. It does make sense they needed the costs to know if they want to sign a new lease.

The timing for phase 1 approval was in part due to the availability of loan money from an NFL program. These improvements won't actually be fully implemented until the next off-season

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Bengals not happy with Hamilton County's change of negotiating team

https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/i-team/bengals-concerned-about-hamilton-countys-new-stadium-negotiating-team
 
CINCINNATI — The Cincinnati Bengals were surprised and not pleased by Hamilton County’s decision to shake up its legal team for Paycor Stadium lease negotiations.
The county surprised nearly everyone Thursday by firing longtime consultant Tom Gabelman after more than two decades of handling legal matters involving the Cincinnati riverfront.
The vote means the Dinsmore law firm will advise the county on matters involving The Banks riverfront development project and lease negotiations with the Bengals. The Vorys law firm will handle matters involving the Cincinnati Reds, which is represented by Dinsmore.

An attorney representing the team said the changes could jeopardize lease talks going forward.
“Just two weeks ago, we signed an MOU saying we've got a negotiation structure to get a deal done by June 30th,” said Aaron Herzig, a partner in the Taft law firm. “And then two weeks later, out of the blue, the county is changing its negotiation team. We have 45 days left to get a deal done. And the county decides to put us back to square one.”

Hamilton County Prosecutor Connie Pillich said she expects the new legal team will enhance and advance negotiations, not slow them down.
"Our interest is in what the team says at the negotiating table, not in the media," she added.

Herzig said he worked with Gabelman on the April 29 memorandum of understanding, which calls for the team and NFL to contribute $120 million toward $184.5 million in first-phase renovations at Paycor. But those arrangements could be scrapped if the team can’t reach a comprehensive agreement on a new lease by June 30.

Herzig said the team hasn’t asked the county to reverse its decision to change law firms and has not threatened to walk away from negotiations on a long-term deal.
“I think it's harder to get a deal when we have a whole lot of new players at the table 45 days before the deal is done,” Herzig said. “The concern is that this indicates they're not serious about getting the deal done.”

The Bengals are also raising questions about the county’s stadium consultant David Abrams, whose New York-based company, Inner Circle Sports, also works for the Cleveland Browns.

The team released a document showing Inner Circle Sports has lobbied the state on the Browns proposed new stadium in Brook Park
“The team has expressed concern to the county that a stadium consultant performing services for the Cleveland Browns might not have Cincinnati’s best interests at heart,” said a statement released by the Bengals Thursday.
Pillich said Abrams has no involvement with the Browns and will remain the county’s lead negotiator.
“I selected Mr. Abrams for his expertise,” Pillich said. “He’s a bulldog who will get a better deal for Hamilton County taxpayers."

[Sled21]

(05-15-2025, 04:06 PM)J24 Wrote: "IF everything smells like shit, check your shoes".
The Bengals are refusing to negotiate! 
In the article it says that the Bengals refuse to talk to the new 

The Bengals negotiate until they give you their final offer and do not negotiate from there. If you have someone's final offer, there's not much left to waste time discussing. 

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A new state funding option has been proposal. The Ohio Senate has proposed using funds from Ohio's unclaimed funds account that are over 10 years old which amounts to a total of about $1.7 billion. This money belongs to people who failed to collect it for some reason. It may be a stock dividend, unlcaimed security deposit, final paycheck, insurance settlement, etc For some people the funds may be pennies for others 10's of thousands. The fund would still have more than $2 billion remaining

Anyway the proposal is to use that money for both Cleveland and Cincinnati stadium projects. Personally, I find this more palatable than issuing bonds that will cost Ohioans more money.

[*rfaulk34*]

(06-05-2025, 03:58 PM)pally Wrote: A new state funding option has been proposal.  The Ohio Senate has proposed using funds from Ohio's unclaimed funds account that are over 10 years old which amounts to a total of about $1.7 billion.  This money belongs to people who failed to collect it for some reason.  It may be a stock dividend, unlcaimed security deposit, final paycheck, insurance settlement, etc  For some people the funds may be pennies for others 10's of thousands.  The fund would still have more than $2 billion remaining

Anyway the proposal is to use that money for both Cleveland and Cincinnati stadium projects.  Personally, I find this more palatable than issuing bonds that will cost Ohioans more money.

Ho Lee Shiit

[George Cantstandya]

(06-05-2025, 03:58 PM)pally Wrote: A new state funding option has been proposal.  The Ohio Senate has proposed using funds from Ohio's unclaimed funds account that are over 10 years old which amounts to a total of about $1.7 billion.  This money belongs to people who failed to collect it for some reason.  It may be a stock dividend, unlcaimed security deposit, final paycheck, insurance settlement, etc  For some people the funds may be pennies for others 10's of thousands.  The fund would still have more than $2 billion remaining

Anyway the proposal is to use that money for both Cleveland and Cincinnati stadium projects.  Personally, I find this more palatable than issuing bonds that will cost Ohioans more money.

Oh wait.  I just remembered I have about 1.8 billion I forgot about 11 years ago and need to claim.  I'll call in a bit and let them know to Paypal it to me.  Sorry Bengals your upgrades are going to have to wait.  :)

[*michaelsean*]

(06-05-2025, 03:58 PM)pally Wrote: A new state funding option has been proposal. The Ohio Senate has proposed using funds from Ohio's unclaimed funds account that are over 10 years old which amounts to a total of about $1.7 billion. This money belongs to people who failed to collect it for some reason. It may be a stock dividend, unlcaimed security deposit, final paycheck, insurance settlement, etc For some people the funds may be pennies for others 10's of thousands. The fund would still have more than $2 billion remaining

Anyway the proposal is to use that money for both Cleveland and Cincinnati stadium projects. Personally, I find this more palatable than issuing bonds that will cost Ohioans more money.

Works for me.

[GodFather]

Id love it if the Browns sold the Bengals...and they could quietly disappear and count all their money and ask for it in "one's"

A pipe dream yes...

[SunsetBengal]

(06-05-2025, 03:58 PM)pally Wrote: A new state funding option has been proposal.  The Ohio Senate has proposed using funds from Ohio's unclaimed funds account that are over 10 years old which amounts to a total of about $1.7 billion.  This money belongs to people who failed to collect it for some reason.  It may be a stock dividend, unlcaimed security deposit, final paycheck, insurance settlement, etc  For some people the funds may be pennies for others 10's of thousands.  The fund would still have more than $2 billion remaining

Anyway the proposal is to use that money for both Cleveland and Cincinnati stadium projects.  Personally, I find this more palatable than issuing bonds that will cost Ohioans more money.

Chances are that most of those people don't even realize that they have unclaimed funds. Meanwhile the State has likely been collecting interest on that money for the entire time and simply sliding it into the general fund. If they want to donate a portion to the Bengals to improve the City of Cincinnati, let them.

[Sled21]

(06-05-2025, 07:25 PM)GodFather Wrote: Id love it if the Browns sold the Bengals...and they could quietly disappear and count all their money and ask for it in "one's"

A pipe dream yes...

If the Browns sell the Bengals, Cincinnati can kiss them goodbye.

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(06-05-2025, 07:34 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Chances are that most of those people don't even realize that they have unclaimed funds. Meanwhile the State has likely been collecting interest on that money for the entire time and simply sliding it into the general fund. If they want to donate a portion to the Bengals to improve the City of Cincinnati, let them.

I bet you that Ohio has had a huge jump in people looking since this news came out

[*rfaulk34*]

(06-06-2025, 09:18 AM)pally Wrote: I bet you that Ohio has had a huge jump in people looking since this news came out

It's funny that you mention that because i did just that, but for Ky and found a $52 check in my wife's name.

[J24]

(06-06-2025, 08:58 AM)Sled21 Wrote: If the Browns sell the Bengals, Cincinnati can kiss them goodbye.

This is fear mongering at its best.

Cincinnati is a good market for the NFL and sports in general. To say that a hypothetical new ownership would immediately move the team is Ludacris.

[Essex Johnson]

(06-06-2025, 11:41 AM)J24 Wrote: This is fear mongering at its best.

Cincinnati is a good market for the NFL and sports in general. To say that a hypothetical new ownership would immediately move the team is Ludacris.

It is not ludacris all you have to do is go back to st. Louis with ownership under Kroenke after he gained control within 3 years they were lining up leaving to larger market.. totally realistic could hapoen here, to think otherwise would be ludacris..

[ERIC1]

Bengals are not going anywhere..non story