Notes From Training Camp 2025

[Tomcat]

(Yesterday, 01:34 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I see Eric1 got the ban hammer finally lol

Well, he now has more time on his hands for Golf and Pappy!

[*rfaulk34*]

(Yesterday, 01:41 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: Max Montoya says hi??????

Dude...i mean since Burrow has been here.  

[*rfaulk34*]

(Yesterday, 01:42 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: It has, honestly was surprised by how bad both Orlando and Amarius graded out by PFF last year. Orlando was hurt pretty bad though playing on
one leg for a bit, Amarius was a rookie so he should really improve. Playing next to Volson and Cappa didn't help, we will see. Hope we bring in Will
Hernandez now that he has been cleared to practice.

Mims shows a lot of promise and moves very well for how big he is. OBj is a solid T who occasionally has trouble with speed rushers around the edge. I'm comfy with the Ts. Karras is good enough to get the job done for now. 

The HUGE question, still, is G. If they can simply be just below or at average, the line should be "good enough". And i mean "good enough" from a true performance standpoint, not "good enough" by Bengals brass standpoint. 

That's my story and i'm sticking to it.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 01:43 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: The vibes are certainly feeling good right now. I think the defense is going to improve and it could be a really good year. 

For sure, Joe saying this is the best he has thrown in years coming off probably the best season by a QB last season shows how good
the passing game at the very least can be. The Defense should be way better against the run at the very least with the players coming
back and added BJ Hill, Slaton, Cam Sample, Logan Wilson, Knight etc.

(Yesterday, 01:45 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Couldn't that work both ways Nate? Maybe our tackles were as big or bigger issue as the guards. As for center, he is just OK also so we didn't have one great OL among the bunch n 2024 and years prior.

No, like I said, Orlando was hurt and Mims was a rookie. 

You get the Guard play up to decent and everything should smooth out on the OL.

[TecmoBengals]

(Yesterday, 01:41 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Why aren't the guard haters also hating on Mims and Brown? To be fair, both were a major part of our OL woes in 2024.

Think it through and perhaps you'll have the "aha" moment.

Posters recognize Mims was a 1st round, 17th overall pick. Posters recognize Brown was given a sizeable free agent deal. Posters understand those two are secured a starting spot for now, and whether or not they suck isn't in play during the conversations, it's about understanding how Mims and Brown were added with the goal to improve the T position. Posters are deciding to give attention to how the IOL is constructed for roster building.

The IOL is a 3rd round rookie and dudes who are likely just backups at best. It lends itself well to questioning, "That's the best the team could do?" Also, posting concerns about the IOL does not equate to people giving Mims and Brown a fair pass. That's just shit you're making up. It's not real, it's all make believe inner dialogue you're having with yourself.

If you're quite loyal to your own convictions about all this then oh well...

[TecmoBengals]

(Yesterday, 01:46 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Dude...i mean since Burrow has been here.  

I'm faulting you for the lack of context my dude.  

[*rfaulk34*]

(Yesterday, 01:51 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: For sure, Joe saying this is the best he has thrown in years coming off probably the best season by a QB last season shows how good
the passing game at the very least can be. The Defense should be way better against the run at the very least with the players coming
back and added BJ Hill, Slaton, Cam Sample, Logan Wilson, Knight etc.

Yep. As with every single year since football was invented, the #1 concern is the "I" word.

That's why, hopefully, no one adds "no "I"word" in their predictions for upcomeing preseason games. 

NONE!!!

[*rfaulk34*]

(Yesterday, 01:53 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: I'm faulting you for the lack of context my dude.  

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 01:45 PM)Tomcat Wrote: Well, he now has more time on his hands for Golf and Pappy!

Yep, and we have more time to actually talk about football. Good for everybody!

(Yesterday, 01:51 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Mims shows a lot of promise and moves very well for how big he is. OBj is a solid T who occasionally has trouble with speed rushers around the edge. I'm comfy with the Ts. Karras is good enough to get the job done for now. 

The HUGE question, still, is G. If they can simply be just below or at average, the line should be "good enough". And i mean "good enough" from a true performance standpoint, not "good enough" by Bengals brass standpoint. 

That's my story and i'm sticking to it.

I have the same story. Spot on Rfaulk. We get Guard play decent and Orlando and Ted will look much better, who knows how much better Mims
could look. Mims balance, size, strength and smarts are tops for a young OL.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 01:55 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Yep. As with every single year since football was invented, the #1 concern is the "I" word.

That's why, hopefully, no one adds "no "I"word" in their predictions for upcomeing preseason games. 

NONE!!!

Or talk about injuries...

[*rfaulk34*]

(Yesterday, 02:00 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Or talk about injuries...

Dammit Nate!! THAT'S the "I" word!  

[*pally*]

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[XsandOs]

(Yesterday, 02:07 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Dammit Nate!! THAT'S the "I" word!  

Thank you for clarifying the "I" word. I thought you meant THE I word:

[*PhilHos*]

(Yesterday, 02:29 PM)XsandOs Wrote: Thank you for clarifying the "I" word. I thought you meant THE I word:

Based solely on the picture, I'm guessing that it was the guy to George's left (our right) that farted.

[XsandOs]

(Yesterday, 02:34 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Based solely on the picture, I'm guessing that it was the guy to George's left (our right) that farted.

Very mature!

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

(Yesterday, 01:51 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Mims shows a lot of promise and moves very well for how big he is. OBj is a solid T who occasionally has trouble with speed rushers around the edge. I'm comfy with the Ts. Karras is good enough to get the job done for now. 

The HUGE question, still, is G. If they can simply be just below or at average, the line should be "good enough". And i mean "good enough" from a true performance standpoint, not "good enough" by Bengals brass standpoint. 

That's my story and i'm sticking to it.

Yep. Mims was a rookie and OBJ played hurt. 

For those questioning why people are more concerned with G than tackle....Think about it, Joe is the franchise and we'd like it if he doesn't get killed back there. The C/OT spots did a much better job in pass pro.

Plus, here atcthe PFF grades for pass blocking last year, and the positionsl rank, pass snaps, sacks/hits/pressures.

1) Karras, C: 78.0, 7/64, 775, 2/6/23
2) OBJ: 69.5, 52/140, 441, 3/3/20 (played hurt)
3) Mims: 60.8, 80/140, 561, 4/5/33 (ditto)
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4) Volson: 48.8, 97/136, 662, 6/10/43
5) Cappa: 39.7, 107/136, 774, 8/7/51
6) Ford: 50.2, 110/140, 466, 5/8/37
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7) Patrick: 60.3, 79/136, 330, 0/0/10

Karras is very good in pass pro. OBJ is solid, at worst. And when he does get beat, it is almost always on the outside. If the inside of the pocket is clean, QB can just step up. Plus  he was obviously playing hurt last year. 

As was Mims. Who was one handed at the end. And a rookie to boot. 

And both guys were still 10/20 pts clear of Ford and Volson and 20/30 clear of Cappa. 

Patrick's numbers are decent, and the sacks/hits/pressure numbers fantastic. But the Saints are run first. And he is hurt a ton and is penalty prone.

This was a huge problem last year. Got Joe hurt one year. Lost a SB another. We cannot run in short yardage. And we go out and attack the problem with a mid round rookie and a bargin bin FA. And it looks like Ford is gonna start. 

And some on here are wondering why lots of posters are upset at G but not OT? 

Yikes. 

[Sled21]

(Yesterday, 01:42 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Wow. That flew so far over your head.

He's saying that while playing for your team, he got injured...then didn't even get a "how you doin?" from anyone associated with the Bengals. 

That's lame. 

It didn't go over my head, and I addressed the communication earlier.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 03:11 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Yep. Mims was a rookie and OBJ played hurt. 

For those questioning why people are more concerned with G than tackle....Think about it, Joe is the franchise and we'd like it if he doesn't get killed back there. The C/OT spots did a much better job in pass pro.

Plus, here atcthe PFF grades for pass blocking last year, and the positionsl rank, pass snaps, sacks/hits/pressures.

1) Karras, C: 78.0, 7/64, 775, 2/6/23
2) OBJ: 69.5, 52/140, 441, 3/3/20 (played hurt)
3) Mims: 60.8, 80/140, 561, 4/5/33 (ditto)
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4) Volson: 48.8, 97/136, 662, 6/10/43
5) Cappa: 39.7, 107/136, 774, 8/7/51
6) Ford: 50.2, 110/140, 466, 5/8/37
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7) Patrick: 60.3, 79/136, 330, 0/0/10

Karras is very good in pass pro. OBJ is solid, at worst. And when he does get beat, it is almost always on the outside. If the inside of the pocket is clean, QB can just step up. Plus  he was obviously playing hurt last year. 

As was Mims. Who was one handed at the end. And a rookie to boot. 

And both guys were still 10/20 pts clear of Ford and Volson and 20/30 clear of Cappa. 

Patrick's numbers are decent, and the sacks/hits/pressure numbers fantastic. But the Saints are run first. And he is hurt a ton and is penalty prone.

This was a huge problem last year. Got Joe hurt one year. Lost a SB another. We cannot run in short yardage. And we go out and attack the problem with a mid round rookie and a bargin bin FA. And it looks like Ford is gonna start. 

And some on here are wondering why lots of posters are upset at G but not OT? 

Yikes. 

Thanks for the work Ike. Yes sir, look at that 39.7 grade for Cappa!!!

[SunsetBengal]

(Yesterday, 01:16 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Let's not make him out to be some kind of martyr. He did not break his neck for the team, he broke a bone in his neck because he was playing football for millions of dollars and stuff like that happens in contact sports. 

Yes, and that team was the Cincinnati Bengals. So, in other words he took a broken bone in his neck for the team, right? 

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 04:04 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Yes, and that team was the Cincinnati Bengals. So, in other words he took a broken bone in his neck for the team, right? 

To not even check on the guy at all WAS lame. Have some class FO, don't know what Sled is gettin at here.