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Notes From Training Camp 2025
(Yesterday, 03:52 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Bfine hating on the FO again... Mellow

So many frikkin' haters around here...



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gotta keep an eye on that long snapper battle

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Listening to Chase on NFL Network right now. Asked what he likes about the offense? They seek my opinion. Asked what he was most excited about! Said the defense he likes what they are doing.
Romo “ so impressed with Zac ...1 of the best in the NFL… they are just fundamentally sound. Taylor the best winning % in the Playoffs of current coaches. Joe Burrow” Zac is the best head coach in the NFL & that gives me a lot of confidence." Taylor led the Bengals to their first playoff win since 1990, ending the longest active drought in the four major North American sports, en and appeared in Super Bowl LVI, the first since 1988.

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(Yesterday, 05:41 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Obviously, we're not waiting on him, but a lot can be gained by watching how someone who has excelled on the field goes about his business on the training field/drills. 

Coaches can coach, teammates can inspire. Currently, Ossai is our veteran to learn from on the field. 

It would be nice if we had an ex-player pass rush specialist coach on the team just to coach up pass rushers.

When you hire D-line coaches they do not always have experience playing DE.

So, a specialist just for coaching up DE rushers could pay off since the passing game is the way the NFL is trending and will stay that way for some time in the future. 
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(Yesterday, 02:26 PM)Goalpost Wrote: Not that everybody takes it, but Shemar did not do the 3 cone test at the combine. This tests for agility and change of direction. For the life of me, i cant figure out his lack of productivity and why he didnt finish plays. I dont think i see any lack of effort, at all, on film.

Dude stop with thislack of prductivity nonsense..Due to the defensive scheme at A and M...stewart was all over the field..on every play, tackling, disruptingand blowing everything up..watch his college videos I am no coach but my eyesight is pretty good ..stewart was a monster with a non stop battery...as far as actually making a quarterback sack that you confuse with productivity...again watch his films..he bad opposing quarterbacks running for their lives everytime he was in the area..Ill take that
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“Lack of production nonsense”

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NFL Network at Cincy’s camp today. Rhett Lewis and Charles Davis said there biggest takeaway was the creativity of Zac Taylor with Jamar Chase
Romo “ so impressed with Zac ...1 of the best in the NFL… they are just fundamentally sound. Taylor the best winning % in the Playoffs of current coaches. Joe Burrow” Zac is the best head coach in the NFL & that gives me a lot of confidence." Taylor led the Bengals to their first playoff win since 1990, ending the longest active drought in the four major North American sports, en and appeared in Super Bowl LVI, the first since 1988.

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(Yesterday, 06:26 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: Dude stop with this kack of prductivity nonsense..Due to the defensive scheme at A and M...stewart was all over the field..on every play, tackling, disruptingand blowing everything up..watch his college videos  I am no coach but my eyesight is pretty good ..stewart was a monster with a non stop battery...as far as actually making a quarterback sack that you confuse with productivity...again watch his films..he bad opposing quarterbacks running for their lives everytime he was in the area..Ill take that

Look we all want him to be good and I get wanting to be optimistic. But there is difference between being optimistic and being delusional. Alot of people didn't like his tape and even the people I saw that did like his tape say he was chaotic and didn't really have pass rush moves/plan. His lack of production was more than sacks he had the worst tackle for loss production of a drafted DE since 2000. Let's hope he learns better technique from the Bengals and has a good career. But that won't change his college tape and production. Not taking the agility tests is/was a little concerning and it's fair to question that. Football is right around the corner and we will find out who Stewart is as a football player before long.
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Look we all want him to be good and I get wanting to be optimistic. But there is difference between being optimistic and being delusional. Alot of people didn't like his tape and even the people I saw that did like his tape say he was chaotic and didn't really have pass rush moves/plan. His lack of production was more than sacks he had the worst tackle for loss production of a drafted DE since 2000. Let's hope he learns better technique from the Bengals and has a good career. But that won't change his college tape and production. Not taking the agility tests is/was a little concerning and it's fair to question that. Football is right around the corner and we will find out who Stewart is as a football player before


Every single scouting report had stewart drafted in the correct position..and many said that if he had focused on getting sacks..he would have been a jtop 5 pick..and many of those some...attributed his lack of sacks due to the way Texas and m played him..who knows ..but hes a solid first round pick .we can have this discussion in october....stop with this alot of people stuff..your people are not professional scouts.., not taking agility tests means jack crap a mid first round draft pick is a really big deal..perhaps you should let the bengals know of your concerns..my god man....you have a nice evening...I gotta run
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(Yesterday, 07:17 PM)ERIC1 Wrote:
(Yesterday, 06:55 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: Every single scouting report had stewart drafted in the correct position..and many said that if he had focused on getting sacks..he would have been a jtop 5 pick..and many of those some...attributed his lack of sacks due to the way Texas and m played him..who knows ..but hes a solid first round pick .we can have this discussion in october....stop with this alot of people stuff..your people are not professional scouts.., not taking agility tests means jack crap  a mid first round draft pick is a really big deal..perhaps you should let the bengals know of your concerns..my god man....you have a nice evening...I gotta run
Yes the Bengals coaches just need to explain to him that the person who takes the snap is the "Quarterback" he needs to "Tackle" him before he gets rid of the ball. That's called a "sack" then once we get that cleared up and he can focus on getting "sacks" he'll be elite.
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(Yesterday, 07:17 PM)ERIC1 Wrote:
(Yesterday, 06:55 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: Look we all want him to be good and I get wanting to be optimistic. But there is difference between being optimistic and being delusional. Alot of people didn't like his tape and even the people I saw that did like his tape say he was chaotic and didn't really have pass rush moves/plan. His lack of production was more than sacks he had the worst tackle for loss production of a drafted DE since 2000. Let's hope he learns better technique from the Bengals and has a good career. But that won't change his college tape and production. Not taking the agility tests is/was a little concerning and it's fair to question that. Football is right around the corner and we will find out who Stewart is as a football player before


Every single scouting report had stewart drafted in the correct position..and many said that if he had focused on getting sacks..he would have been a jtop 5 pick..and many of those some...attributed his lack of sacks due to the way Texas and m played him..who knows ..but hes a solid first round pick .we can have this discussion in october....stop with this alot of people stuff..your people are not professional scouts.., not taking agility tests means jack crap  a mid first round draft pick is a really big deal..perhaps you should let the bengals know of your concerns..my god man....you have a nice evening...I gotta run
I hope Stewart is awesome, but he would not be the first heisman trophy winner (just lots of them flopped) to struggle as a rookie or not meet expectations.
I will be thrilled if Stewart can win a starting job some time in 2025, I think while gifted, he is raw and will need to be coached up to be consistent. I hope I am wrong, but I never trust rookies to be our saviour.
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(Yesterday, 04:03 PM)Ell Prez Wrote: He got burned all of last year. He’s too small. Yes he’s fast, but the receivers he goes against are just as fast and 6-8” taller, and 30lbs heavier.

He’s not good and will get burnt all year. We needed to upgrade CB this offseason and we didn’t.

DJ Turner can do the job with his elite speed and fluid hips. He played damn good right before he got hurt last year.

Has great ball skills as well. I take nothing from this until it goes bad come regular season.

People were being talked up in TC last year and sucked.

(Yesterday, 04:12 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: I disagree on Turner. He was really starting to come on last year and then got hurt. Definitely think we needed to add depth to that position that might push him to more of a backup role. But I'm not concerned about Turner.

Completely agree Nug. ThumbsUp

(Yesterday, 05:31 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: from reports he  had a good week including today from what i have read and watched at the practice the db and safeties  had a nice red zone session to end day. He had a bad year last year but was productive in Baltimore, and from all accounts is loving Goldens defense style.

Hope Geno Stone comes around with us. He lucked into a lot of interceptions with the Ravens and us.

He has good hands, too bad they cannot wrap up and tackle.

(Yesterday, 05:36 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Or am I hating on Trey? 

Or both?

(Yesterday, 05:41 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Obviously, we're not waiting on him, but a lot can be gained by watching how someone who has excelled on the field goes about his business on the training field/drills. 

Coaches can coach, teammates can inspire. Currently, Ossai is our veteran to learn from on the field. 

Damn rights there Bfine. Rock On
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(Yesterday, 05:44 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: So many frikkin' haters around here...

No doubt. We hate everything, just the way it goes being a Bengals fan lol

I am not very particular, I hate everybody. Mellow
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(Yesterday, 07:50 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I hope Stewart is awesome, but he would not be the first heisman trophy winner (just lots of them flopped) to struggle as a rookie or not meet expectations.

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https://www.bengals.com/news/defense-rebounds-after-joe-burrow-onslaught-while-shemar-stewart-has-busy-first-day
Romo “ so impressed with Zac ...1 of the best in the NFL… they are just fundamentally sound. Taylor the best winning % in the Playoffs of current coaches. Joe Burrow” Zac is the best head coach in the NFL & that gives me a lot of confidence." Taylor led the Bengals to their first playoff win since 1990, ending the longest active drought in the four major North American sports, en and appeared in Super Bowl LVI, the first since 1988.

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(Yesterday, 09:57 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: https://www.bengals.com/news/defense-rebounds-after-joe-burrow-onslaught-while-shemar-stewart-has-busy-first-day

Good to read Slaton is having a pretty good TC!
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(Yesterday, 10:54 PM)sandwedge Wrote: Good to read Slaton is having a pretty good TC!

I thought so too
Romo “ so impressed with Zac ...1 of the best in the NFL… they are just fundamentally sound. Taylor the best winning % in the Playoffs of current coaches. Joe Burrow” Zac is the best head coach in the NFL & that gives me a lot of confidence." Taylor led the Bengals to their first playoff win since 1990, ending the longest active drought in the four major North American sports, en and appeared in Super Bowl LVI, the first since 1988.

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(Yesterday, 06:26 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: Dude stop with thislack of prductivity nonsense..Due to the defensive scheme at A and M...stewart was all over the field..on every play, tackling, disruptingand blowing everything up..watch his college videos  I am no coach but my eyesight is pretty good ..stewart was a monster with a non stop battery...as far as actually making a quarterback sack that you confuse with productivity...again watch his films..he bad opposing quarterbacks running for their lives everytime he was in the area..Ill take that

Better get to the optometrist. Once again, you have no clue what you're talking about. 

Against Texas he was single blocked all night and only made it into the QBs zip code one single time. And he wasn't much better against the run. 

Non stop battery. That's funny. He has a good motor but he's not close to a monster. 

Take your own advice and watch these vids for the first time and please show me where he was such a monster. Oh wait. You can't do that because you're weak and have me on ignore so you don't have to see my comments on how clueless you are. 

"Have a nice night". 

(05-14-2025, 09:01 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Nate...you're talking yourself into a blown up narrative that only has a little bit of fact to it. Don't bother with a few highlights. Watch game tape. He has zero moves and not much more ability to disengage from OTs. He has no bend and not very much change of direction and he has bad body control when he gets up to speed, and this is against college competition. He's going to need a huge huge jump to be even decent in the NFL. Sorry if i can't get excited about a top 20 pick that can "set the edge". Watched Sam Hubbard for a long time and this guy has a bit to go to get to his level. 

I don't think i even saw a single, basic spin move in any of these games and he wasn't remotely disruptive. And these are against good college offenses, steps below even the average NFL offenses he's going to see from now on. 

You've got this guy blown up into some kind of monster-in-waiting and he's simply not. 
















Maybe he gets some coaching but it's going to be hard to make him look less clunky and slow in his change of direction and his inability to get off blocks. 



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Come on Nicomo. You know what he meant. 



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The report on DJ Turner is that he is still losing the ball in the air so he is late playing the ball and missing the chance at a PBU or INT

Multiple reports on the level of energy and attitude coming from the defense. They aren’t giving up on plays…something we all know was an issue last years. They are doing a lot of talking before, during, and after plays. They continue to stay active between plays and drills
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