2020 Election

[Au165]

(11-16-2020, 02:22 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Did you purposely spell it like that because none of his camp are able to spell?

Nope, just been a long weekend. 

[Belsnickel]

This is a very interesting graphic.

[CKwi88]

(11-17-2020, 09:59 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: This is a very interesting graphic.

But farmers

[*Nately120*]

(11-17-2020, 12:55 PM)CKwi88 Wrote: But farmers

You don't measure the worth of a man by the money he makes...well, maybe not to neo-cons since they seem to love electing people who were born ultra-rich. 

[Benton]

(11-17-2020, 09:59 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: This is a very interesting graphic.

Interesting, sure, but now I'm going to spend all day wondering if JoJo or Kanye got that missing 1 percent.

[*Nately120*]

(11-17-2020, 02:00 PM)Benton Wrote: Interesting, sure, but now I'm going to spend all day wondering if JoJo or Kanye got that missing 1 percent.

The election was so full of fraud that we may as well just assume that Jo and Kanye both got the most votes.  I don't see how any of the "Trump really won" crowd can argue it.

[Au165]

Rudy Giuliani is in court right now making opening arguments for the case where all the other lawyers quit. It is basically going about how you'd expect it to.

[*Nately120*]

(11-17-2020, 04:34 PM)Au165 Wrote: Rudy Giuliani is in court right now making opening arguments for the case where all the other lawyers quit. It is basically going about how you'd expect it to.

I guess getting disbarred is the last thing on his bucket list.

[Au165]

(11-17-2020, 04:40 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I guess getting disbarred is the last thing on his bucket list.

Honestly, some of the things he claimed probably could get him disbarred. At one point he submitted a claim that a picture of a guy with binoculars was a poll watcher trying to see what was going on and the other lawyer asked if he was willing to stake his membership on it and he said as far as he knows it's true lol.

[*Nately120*]

(11-17-2020, 04:43 PM)Au165 Wrote: Honestly, some of the things he claimed probably could get him disbarred. At one point he submitted a claim that a picture of a guy with binoculars was a poll watcher trying to see what was going on and the other lawyer asked if he was willing to stake his membership on it and he said as far as he knows it's true lol.

I can imagine a lawyer saying stuff like "as far as I know it's true" but that would be in the case where some low-rent ambulance chaser is trying to get a bs payout for oversalted fries from McDonalds.  The idea that the president's top lawyer is making "Hey, it might be true!" arguments to say that an entire presidential election was rigged is just the craziest thing ever. I don't see how this is anything but flat-out anti-American propaganda.

Trump and people who value him over democracy just need to leave this country and live their best lives in a dictator-run shithole country.  They'll love it and if we miss them, well...I'm willing to take that risk.

[GMDino]

Might as well leave this here.  Trump has stopped doing the small amount of work he actually did.

But, to be fair, those tweets aren't gonna send themselves!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/17/politics/trump-future-white-house/index.html

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Quote:President Donald Trump's agenda listed "no public events" on Tuesday -- the 10th time since the election that those words have appeared on his daily schedule.


He has answered no questions from reporters, invited no cameras into the Oval Office and ventured no further than his namesake golf course, 25 miles from the White House in Virginia.


Troop drawdown plans he long sought for Afghanistan and Iraq were announced Tuesday by a new Pentagon chief whose own hiring Trump unveiled a week ago by tweet -- neither occasion warranting the President's emergence from self-sequester inside the White House.

Trump in the Oval Office of the White House on Friday, November 13.
Trump has even canceled his plans to travel to Mar-a-Lago for Thanksgiving, administration officials told CNN. The President and first lady were scheduled to spend the holiday at their South Florida resort, but have decided to stay in Washington instead.


"It feels like bunker mentality," a White House official said before the decision was circulated.


Even as workers dismantle and truck away the temporary metal mesh fencing that surrounded the White House on Election Day, the President remains fortified inside the building as he continues to deny losing to President-elect Joe Biden.

TRUMP WHITE HOUSE

• Trump fires Secretary of Defense Mark Esper
• Trump's refusal to accept loss puts transition work on hold as inner circle remains split
• Inside Trump's loss: A culmination of self-destructive decisions
• Jared Kushner, Melania Trump advise Trump to accept election loss
• MAP: Full election results
  

When he looks out his north-facing windows, he can see the reviewing stand for Biden's inaugural parade -- the 
When he ventures downstairs for meetings in the Oval Office, he often remains late into the evening conferring over his chaotic legal efforts and wondering why more of his lawyers aren't on television defending him.

During a particularly heated session last Thursday, his deputy campaign manager accused his personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, who was on speakerphone, of being a "f**king a**hole."

Some days there is talk of a public appearance, but few have materialized since Biden was projected the election's winner, securing the same number of electoral votes -- 306 -- that Trump had previously deemed a landslide win when he took office in 2016.

A rarity



Trump's public schedules show little interest in work as he protests Biden's legitimate election

Few previous periods in his administration have featured such light schedules. Trump has rarely if ever resisted television cameras for this long.

His three public appearances since November 3 have amounted to a lie-filled appearance in the briefing room, a rain-soaked wreath laying at Arlington National Cemetery and remarks in the Rose Garden about the coronavirus vaccine, all of which ended without any questions.

Even Trump's publicly listed but closed-press events have been spare. He has twice had lunch with Vice President Mike Pence, and met with his secretaries of the State Department and Treasury Department last Thursday. But his schedule has not included a classified intelligence briefing in more than a month, even as his administration is denying those briefings to the President-elect, who convened his own non-governmental national security meeting on Tuesday and invited cameras in for a photo-op.


Trump participates in a Veterans Day wreath laying ceremony at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at Arlington National Cemetery in Arlington, Virginia., Wednesday, November 11.

Trump has mostly stopped phoning US allies, particularly as they move toward recognizing Biden's win. The last foreign leader the White House said Trump spoke with was French President Emmanuel Macron, who he dialed on October 30 after a terrorist attack in Nice. On Tuesday, two of Trump's closest global friends, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, placed congratulatory calls to Biden.
He has sent smoke signals through some members of the conservative media. His friend Geraldo Rivera, a correspondent at Fox News, said Trump described himself as a "realist" when they spoke last week.

"Time coming soon to say goodbye with grace & dignity," Rivera tweeted. Trump spent the ensuing weekend making false claims that he "won the election," including in all capital letters, that social media outlets labeled disinformation.

In the immediate aftermath of the election, some of Trump's advisers pushed for more official events that would demonstrate the President going about the job he is now desperately trying to retain. But the White House did not have any announcements or official engagements in the pipeline ahead of November 3 because Trump and his team were so focused on reelection.

Trump has made policy and personnel moves from behind closed doors, including firing the defense secretary and preparing the Afghanistan and Iraq drawdown orders. He reportedly asked about options for striking Iran during a meeting last week. And his administration is scrambling to harden efforts on deregulation and immigration before the end of Trump's term.

Behind the scenes, Trump has been eager to accomplish things that fell by the wayside during his first years in office and people close to him have said to expect that the next two months won't pass quietly.

Yet Trump has demonstrated little interest in adding more to his schedule, people familiar with the matter said, and few aides have raised the idea with him because of his dark mood and preoccupation with his loss.

President-elect Joe Biden, accompanied by Vice President-elect Kamala Harris, speaks about economic recovery at The Queen theater, Monday, November 16, in Wilmington, Delaware.

Even as Biden carries out daily public appearances focused on governing, Trump hasn't felt obliged to keep pace -- though he has watched the former vice president's activities from the White House.

Instead, he is spending mornings in the residence watching television, arriving to the Oval Office later in the afternoon and remaining into the evening. He goes back-and-forth between the office and his adjoining dining room, which is equipped with a large television and where newspapers and magazines are strewn across the table.
BIDEN TRANSITION

• Biden transition team announces coronavirus advisers, including whistleblower Rick Bright
• Biden plans executive actions that would undo Trump's policies
• Democrats fear McConnell veto over Biden agenda
• How Biden plans to change the US pandemic response
• MAP: Full election results
  

When members of his coronavirus task force briefed governors Monday on a nationwide surge in cases from the basement White House Situation Room, Trump was upstairs following developments in Georgia and Pennsylvania, where his team is struggling to gain legal traction in efforts to challenge the election results.


Later, as Pence made his way to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware to witness the dignified transfer of American service members killed during a helicopter crash in Egypt, the President was in the West Wing grasping at developments in Nevada, claiming they would have a "major impact."

The President has yet to comment on the deaths of the Americans, who were killed last Thursday while serving as part of a peacekeeping force in Egypt. He has not tweeted about the crash or made any other public comments about it.

Uncertain future



[url=https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/12/politics/donald-trump-coronavirus-leadership/index.html]Trump's stunning abdication of leadership comes as pandemic worsens

The West Wing had been without an in-person leader in the weeks after the election as chief of staff Mark Meadows recovered from coronavirus. A number of other Trump advisers became infected after attending an election night party at the White House where few guests wore masks.

Meadows returned to the White House on Monday. He had been working while in isolation and spent ample time on conference calls with colleagues and Trump, people familiar with what happened told CNN.

Others in the building seem less certain about their futures. Despite an edict from Trump's personnel chief that anyone caught looking for work would be immediately fired, many resumes from the White House have arrived on Capitol Hill in the past week as staffers look to secure jobs.

Many more said they are looking forward to a day when Trump acknowledges, even obliquely, that he will not be president in January so they, too, can begin searching for their next gig. Until he does, staffers have been coming into the building later or not at all some days.

In the East Wing, absent direction from Trump on when or if he'll accept the election results, there is a pervading sense of auto-pilot. Without the go-ahead to start planning for a move out of the White House in 64 days, there is no packing to begin and no moving trucks to book, leaving staffers in the limbo of "do we stay or do we go?" according to one person with knowledge of the situation.

Trump plays golf at the Trump National Golf Club in Sterling, Virginia, Sunday, November 15.
First lady Melania Trump is focused for now on unveiling her holiday decorations, and lists are being drawn up for the dozens of Christmas parties the White House still plans to host.

On Tuesday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell suggested the time for Trump's legal challenges was running short and that state vote certifications would present decisive proof the election was over.

"Once those certifications occur, if they occur, based upon litigation that's being tried in various places, those will be final," he told reporters on Capitol Hill. "The Electoral College will meet in December, and the inauguration will be on January 20."

"We're going to have an orderly transfer from this administration to the next one," McConnell said. "What we all say about it is, frankly, irrelevant."

For now, Trump remains intent on pushing ahead with his legal challenges, brooding over ever-more-conspiratorial theories on why the votes did not go his way. When he has emerged into public, he has sought out only the most familiar venues.

Before the election, Trump had told people he was eager to visit his Mar-a-Lago club after being away for so long, though noted his rooms were in the middle of being renovated. Officials were told Tuesday that Trump had pulled the plug on his Thanksgiving trip.

Fleeting glimpses from cameras positioned across the Potomac River from his golf club on Saturday and Sunday showed him speeding across the course from behind the wheel of his cart, a caddie hanging off the back.

Trump seemed to gain the most solace from crowds of supporters who massed in Washington over the weekend, many protesting the election results and voicing their support for him. A day before the rally, he wrote on Twitter that he "may even try to stop by and say hello."

Trump waves to supporters protesting the results of the presidential election, as the presidential motorcade drives by the "Million MAGA March" rally, at Freedom Plaza in Washington on Saturday, November 14.

But even then, Trump did not actually emerge into the crowd. He opted instead to roll through the adoring throngs in his motorcade, waving energetically out the window as Secret Service agents jogged alongside his vehicle.

Later, Trump phoned his social media adviser Dan Scavino to marvel at the sight.

[Au165]

This isn't hyperbole, it is now apparent the President of the United States is attempting a coup, one that will fail no doubt. The courts have overwhelmingly found no fraud or issue with these elections and the repeated attempts to flood the courts with frivolous lawsuits and now reach out to people like this case, or as Senator Graham has done going to officials, to overturn the clear and legal will of the people is nothing short of treasonous. Whether it fails or not is moot at this point, the fact that this is happening in broad daylight with little resistance is simply disgusting. 

[*Nately120*]

(11-19-2020, 12:20 PM)Au165 Wrote: This isn't hyperbole, it is now apparent the President of the United States is attempting a coup, one that will fail no doubt. The courts have overwhelmingly found no fraud or issue with these elections and the repeated attempts to flood the courts with frivolous lawsuits and now reach out to people like this case, or as Senator Graham has done going to officials, to overturn the clear and legal will of the people is nothing short of treasonous. Whether it fails or not is moot at this point, the fact that this is happening in broad daylight with little resistance is simply disgusting. 

Letting Trump into politics is like that first "probably shouldn't do this, but why not give it a shot?" line of blow you do for fun.  Trump...not even once.

[Au165]

It makes sense, no reason to get disbarred as part of the shitshow Rudy Giuliani is putting on as a case.

AND another Trump lawyer in Pennsylvania, Linda Kerns, has dropped off his lawsuit there. pic.twitter.com/30EkkbiiIt

— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) November 19, 2020

[Arturo Bandini]

Giuliani is a very embarrassing dude to see ...

If this is the best people, I really don't want to see the worst.

[Au165]

One other thing to note here, Trump rescinded the suit in Michigan claiming their relief they sought was already granted via the Wayne County board not certifying the vote. The issue here is that they did indeed certify the vote and while the Republicans since talking to Trump have tried to rescind it (They can't FYI) it did in fact certify the results making whatever lawyer filed that guilty of violating rule 11 in the short run.

On a bigger scale, this is a set up to attempt to claim that the vote wasn't actually certified for more propaganda. Again, this is a coup attempt, and even as poorly as it is being planned and executed it needs to be viewed for what it is.

[Au165]

pic.twitter.com/S3kFsIRGmi

— Mitt Romney (@MittRomney) November 20, 2020

[Au165]

(11-19-2020, 03:32 PM)Au165 Wrote: One other thing to note here, Trump rescinded the suit in Michigan claiming their relief they sought was already granted via the Wayne County board not certifying the vote. The issue here is that they did indeed certify the vote and while the Republicans since talking to Trump have tried to rescind it (They can't FYI) it did in fact certify the results making whatever lawyer filed that guilty of violating rule 11 in the short run.

On a bigger scale, this is a set up to attempt to claim that the vote wasn't actually certified for more propaganda. Again, this is a coup attempt, and even as poorly as it is being planned and executed it needs to be viewed for what it is.

Looks like Detroit's lawyers thought the same thing.

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/detroit-seeks-sanctions-blasts-trump-campaign-for-using-court-filing-to-spread-disinformation/

[*Nately120*]

(11-20-2020, 10:20 AM)Au165 Wrote:

pic.twitter.com/S3kFsIRGmi

— Mitt Romney (@MittRomney) November 20, 2020

Harder to imagine how many people would be all for it, but here we are.  

[GMDino]

(11-20-2020, 10:39 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Harder to imagine how many people would be all for it, but here we are.  

Well...

To soften the blow of defeat Fox's Geraldo proposes naming the vaccine after Trump. "It would be a nice gesture to him and years from now it would become kind of a generic name. Have you got your trump yet, I got my trump, I'm fine. I wished we could honor him in that way." pic.twitter.com/fM8qwFhxF6

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) November 20, 2020

 


Poor Trump.  Who complained that his life was "so much better" before he became President.  Who claims to be so rich wit the former model wife and best (people have told him) places to live and great businesses that make so much money.

Poor Trump is so sad that we should name a VACCINE after him for a virus that he downplayed for months.  That he said would go away like a miracle.  That would disappear in the heat (they say).  Would soon be down to zero cases in the US.

Just to sooth his ego after losing an election.

Seems legit.