CNN goes all in to blackmail Reddit user who made the gif Trump Tweeted.

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(07-05-2017, 01:14 PM)GMDino Wrote: Personally I find bringing these guys who are brave behind the keyboard out into the light a good thing.  Shame of it is, they run and hide instead of standing by what they said.

We're talking about a guy who made a meme out of a Wrestlemania gif. How shameful of him.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(07-05-2017, 01:23 PM)6andcounting Wrote: CNN keeps saying they "tracked" him down. If that's true the Reddit guy didn't initiate anything once CNN contacted him in real life.


because CNN were upset he made a WWE meme about them

The article states CNN was unable to reach him on Monday. The guy issued his apology on Reddit on Tuesday then contacted CNN afterwards. It doesn't make it clear if CNN asked for an apology or it was a mea culpa.

[6andcounting]

(07-05-2017, 01:38 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I stand by my comment. If you're too chicken shit to sign your name to something like that, then maybe you shouldn't be making it.

You know what doxing and swatting is, right? And you know it's not some form of justice that only happens to you if you do something wrong, right?

[StLucieBengal]

(07-05-2017, 01:27 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: This. Also, if you're too chicken shit to sign your name to things like that then maybe you shouldn't be saying it in the first place. If you are too scared to sign your name to inflammatory things then wouldn't that be a very beta move?

Major media with unending resources threatening someone's livelihood over an anonymous internet post on Reddit does not mean that they deserve to potentially lose their job. This same reporter did the same to Justine Sacco when he was at buzzfeed.

Perfect example is there was once a poster here who mentioned they wanted to have sex with another poster's child. Does that mean his anonymous post on a message board should affect his job status? ...... No it should not ....

[6andcounting]

(07-05-2017, 01:39 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: The article states CNN was unable to reach him on Monday. The guy issued his apology on Reddit on Tuesday then contacted CNN afterwards. It doesn't make it clear if CNN asked for an apology or it was a mea culpa.

CNN tracked him down and was planning on releasing his identity. From that point on, everything the guy said and did was under the threat of indefinite doxing and swatting to him and anyone connected to him starting immediately. 

[Belsnickel]

(07-05-2017, 01:40 PM)6andcounting Wrote: You know what doxing and swatting is, right? And you know it's not some form of justice that only happens to you if you do something wrong, right?

I do know, and someone could be doxxed or swatted without CNN doing a damn thing. People get doxxed and swatted all the time for random stupid things. I've seen it happen from all sides of the spectrum. I don't want to see that sort of thing happening to anyone, but it's a risk you take when you get into those flame wars. This doesn't change my position.

(07-05-2017, 01:40 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Major media with unending resources threatening someone's livelihood over an anonymous internet post on Reddit does not mean that they deserve to potentially lose their job. This same reporter did the same to Justine Sacco when he was at buzzfeed.

Perfect example is there was once a poster here who mentioned they wanted to have sex with another poster's child. Does that mean his anonymous post on a message board should affect his job status? ...... No it should not ....

If you are too chicken shit to sign your name to something you have said, then don't say it. Simple as that. If it has the potential to cost you your job then maybe you should rethink it. I hear stories all of the time about people losing their jobs or not being hired for things they say online, and I have no sympathy. If you say it, own up to it.

[StLucieBengal]

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/882622305184223234

From Glenn Greenwald. Not sure how to post this so the photo shows

[StLucieBengal]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2013/12/21/why-did-buzzfeed-and-co-target-justine-sacco-for-online-assassination/amp/

Quote:Why Did BuzzFeed & Co. Target Justine Sacco for Online Assassination

John Nolte21 Dec 2013
***UPDATE: If you think, for whatever reason, that what happened to Justine Sacco is okay; I’m assuming you won’t have any problem with me watching your personal social media accounts, blowing up at Breitbart News what *I* deem offensive, and then, without asking you, contacting your employer and demanding you be fired. Your rules, not mine.

Friday night, a young New York-based communications director had her life destroyed on social media while she was out of touch with the world and could not defend herself. Justine Sacco was on a flight to Africa and had no Internet access when BuzzFeed’s Andrew Kaczynski apparently got the ball rolling by tweeting out to his 100k-plus followers that Sacco was responsible for what “may be the worst tweet of all time.” By the time she stepped off her flight, Sacco found herself a national pariah and fired from her job. Here’s the tweet that caused it all:

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At the time of that tweet, Sacco had fewer than 200 followers (she has since deleted her account). And while in an airplane blissfully unaware that Buzzfeed and Co. had dispatched its flying monkeys against her, hashtags devoted to Sacco’s destruction climbed to the top spot on Twitter, her employer InterActiveCorp released a statement condemning her (and later fired her), and there were literally hundreds of articles and blog posts on the subject — including The New York Times, the left-wing BuzzFeed (naturally), The New York Daily News, The Hollywood Reporter, and, well, you get the idea.

Other than the very sad fact that a lot of bitter people obviously had nothing they would rather do on the last Friday night before Christmas, why did this happen?

To begin with, Sacco’s tweet cannot only be interpreted in the way Buzzfeed and its online lynch mob chose to interpret it; which is racist, insansitivist, Africanist, and AIDSist. Could it be that in a sloppy way Sacco was using humor to make a point about injustice? AIDS in Africa disproportionately ravages blacks on that continent. “I’m white!” sounds an awful like the kind of left-wing snark you hear every hour on MSNBC. For example:

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Going to Florida. Hope I don’t get shot. Just kidding. I’m White!

— John Nolte (@NolteNC) December 21, 2013

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If Rachel Maddow tweeted that, no one would question what she meant.

This isn’t me defending Sacco. I have no idea what was in her heart. But neither did those who followed BuzzFeed’s lead and managed, in just a few frighteningly short hours, to successfully place her head on a pigpole. Sacco is a young, professional, New York woman. Chances are about 99.9% that she’s a BuzzFeed-loving, Obama-voting, MSNBC addict.

Which leads to the most important question…

Why Sacco?

Why did BuzzFeed and others gin up a journalistic assassination squad to hit some nobody named Justine Sacco?

If you’ll pardon the mixing of metaphors, why was this private citizen plucked from obscurity by The Online Stasi for a trip to Room 101?

What we have seen happen to public figures, like “Duck Dynasty’s” Phil Robertson, who dare offend the political/media left-wing elite is frightening enough. Is this group now so addicted to the taste of bloody scalps that no one is safe — that any obscure citizen with only 174 Twitter followers can have their social media door broken into and lives ruined by the likes of BuzzFeed: Speech Detectives?

Or maybe it is something else.

Any time, day or night, you can use the search feature to look up “n*gger, AIDS, gay, homosexual, f*g,” and literally find hundreds of thousands of tweets filled with unquestionable venom and hate.

So why Justine Sacco?

How did this nobody living in a social media world buried in tens of thousands of truly racist and homophobic nobodies, find herself in the crosshairs?

If BuzzFeed and Co. wanted to feel self-righteous about themselves, there are literally millions of tweets out there that are unquestionably indefensible and that are not written by some defenseless, unsuspecting woman about to step off a plane and into social media Hell.

Maybe BuzzFeed and its sorry band of elite media minions chose Sacco to send an intimidating message that says no one is safe from their speech rules, even nobodies with 213 Twitter followers. Randomly pulling people from their online homes as an example to the rest of us, is certainly going to have a chilling effect.

But maybe it was a targeted hit based on a personal grudge or agenda we will never know about.

Either way… Good God.

ADDED: Some are telling me Sacco is guilty of penning other “tasteless” tweets, and point to these:

I like animals, but when it’s this cold out I’ll skin one myself for the fur,” she once tweeted to the animal rights group PETA.

I can’t be fired for things I say while intoxicated right?

I had a sex dream about an autistic kid last night. #fml

So we are required to assume that out of 407 tweets, all of them are tasteless jokes, including the one about Africa? Or is it now just BURN THE WITCH! for not being terribly effective at being Sarah Silverman?

Good heavens, we are talking about a private citizen’s life here.

What the hell is the matter with some of you?

On a late-December Friday night, an online lynch-mob destroyed the reputation, career, and life of a young woman and private citizen, and did so without the benefit of the doubt or hearing her side of the story.

If you want to live in BuzzFeed’s “Watch what you say” world because it gives you a snarling sense of sanctimony, you’re not only ill but too stupid to know you are also a target.

ADDED: Some are now justifying their diseased sense of self-righteousness based on the idea that Sacco was a PR executive. Tell me, then, where do we draw the line when it comes to plucking The Obscure out of obscurity for career-destruction?

Does it stop at PR executives?

What about assistant PR executives? What about assistants to assistant PR executives? What about anyone who works in public relations? What about executives? Executive assistants? Junior executives?

You can terrorize people with rules, but you can terrorize them even better without rules.

Read your Kafka.

If you think this woman should have been fired, fine. But your outrage should be directed at an elite media lynch mob that set out to destroy a private citizen without the benefit of the doubt or hearing her side, not some immature woman whose only crime is trying to ape Sarah Silverman.

That elite media lynch mob is a threat to all of us. Sarah Silverman-lite is a threat to no one.

Dear Elite Media: Please lecture us some more about bullying — especially BuzzFeed.

Follow John Nolte on Twitter @NolteNC

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This is like the south park episodes where the internet trolls are going to get exposed and they freak out.

Lol tough shit. Put on a kkk hood and go to a rally maybe noone will learn you true identity then.

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(07-05-2017, 01:49 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I do know, and someone could be doxxed or swatted without CNN doing a damn thing. People get doxxed and swatted all the time for random stupid things. I've seen it happen from all sides of the spectrum. I don't want to see that sort of thing happening to anyone, but it's a risk you take when you get into those flame wars. This doesn't change my position.


If you are too chicken shit to sign your name to something you have said, then don't say it. Simple as that. If it has the potential to cost you your job then maybe you should rethink it. I hear stories all of the time about people losing their jobs or not being hired for things they say online, and I have no sympathy. If you say it, own up to it.

No one is going to be afraid to take credit for a Wrestlemania meme. No one wants to be doxed.  No one is going to lose their job over a Wrestlemania meme. It's the none stop calls, emails, faxes and illegal DoS attacks that will make a person unemployable. 

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(07-05-2017, 01:58 PM)6andcounting Wrote: No one is going to be afraid to take credit for a Wrestlemania meme. No one wants to be doxed.  No one is going to lose their job over a Wrestlemania meme. It's the none stop calls, emails, faxes and illegal DoS attacks that will make a person unemployable. 

Well, if I recall correctly, there were some other things posted that may have caused issues with an employer. But aside from that he runs that risk with or without CNN, right? I mean, doxxing has occurred without the help of major media outlets plenty of times. I'm not going to sit here and say it is right for someone to be attacked over these things but I'm not going to vilify CNN for doing journalism. People have their names in the news all of the time and don't deal with these things, so it's not the fault of CNN or any other media outlet that would put the name out there. It's the fault of those doing the doxxing and swatting.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(07-05-2017, 01:38 PM)6andcounting Wrote: We're talking about a guy who made a meme out of a Wrestlemania gif. How shameful of him.

I think he is more concerned about the comments which he described as "hateful" and "racist, bigoted, and anti-semetic" which he apologized for and deleted.

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(07-05-2017, 02:06 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Well, if I recall correctly, there were some other things posted that may have caused issues with an employer. But aside from that he runs that risk with or without CNN, right? I mean, doxxing has occurred without the help of major media outlets plenty of times. I'm not going to sit here and say it is right for someone to be attacked over these things but I'm not going to vilify CNN for doing journalism. People have their names in the news all of the time and don't deal with these things, so it's not the fault of CNN or any other media outlet that would put the name out there. It's the fault of those doing the doxxing and swatting.

The reason why CNN tracked him down was over the meme and that alone would have got him doxed. And saying it's possible to get doxxed by other than people than CNN isn't relevant in this case because only CNN is doing it in this case.

[Belsnickel]

(07-05-2017, 02:12 PM)6andcounting Wrote: The reason why CNN tracked him down was over the meme and that alone would have got him doxed. And saying it's possible to get doxxed by other than people than CNN isn't relevant in this case because only CNN is doing it in this case.

Was CNN going to release anything other than his name, like they would in pretty much any news story where they quote someone making a comment? Do you consider it doxxing when CNN names someone that speaks to them or does something newsworthy?

[GMDino]

(07-05-2017, 01:38 PM)6andcounting Wrote: We're talking about a guy who made a meme out of a Wrestlemania gif. How shameful of him.

And as Matt has already said, but I will back up, he said plenty of other things.

I didn't even think I could copy some of them to this board when talking about it.

And as I said, and Matt said, if you can't sign your name to it...don't say it.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(07-05-2017, 01:47 PM)6andcounting Wrote: CNN tracked him down and was planning on releasing his identity. From that point on, everything the guy said and did was under the threat of indefinite doxing and swatting to him and anyone connected to him starting immediately. 

People are quoted in the media daily. Is there a reason why this person shouldn't be quoted?

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(07-05-2017, 01:31 PM)6andcounting Wrote: So CNN contacts the guy, says they will reveal his identity, and he says whatever he has can to protect himself. CNN then publicly holds it over his head that they'd be willing to release his identity whenever they'd like. Yeah, sounds like the guy had much of a choice after CNN - in their words - "tracked him down".

You may not agree with it, but it is not blackmail. He could have dealt with the consequences of his actions and not offered a deal to them. What has happened here is a reality check to trolls who think they can spew hate and hide on the internet behind anonymity. He got busted and rather than being exposed HE cut a deal.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(07-05-2017, 01:40 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Major media with unending resources threatening someone's livelihood over an anonymous internet post on Reddit does not mean that they deserve to potentially lose their job. This same reporter did the same to Justine Sacco when he was at buzzfeed.

Perfect example is there was once a poster here who mentioned they wanted to have sex with another poster's child. Does that mean his anonymous post on a message board should affect his job status? ...... No it should not ....

Another poster suggested sex between a minor and a prostitute prevents homosexuality.

[Aquapod770]

This is a mega media corporation targeting a private civilian. This should infuriate you. No matter CNN's reasoning.

[BmorePat87]

(07-05-2017, 01:23 PM)6andcounting Wrote: CNN keeps saying they "tracked" him down. If that's true the Reddit guy didn't initiate anything once CNN contacted him in real life.


because CNN were upset he made a WWE meme about them

Per your source, they contacted him and he didn't respond. He then posted the apology and reached out to them, asking them not to reveal the information. 

Whether or not they contacted him first, he may have proposed the "deal" as the narrative suggests. Of course, we'd need to know his side of the story and he doesn't seem willing to talk.