Confederate Flag stuff has gone too far.

[Bengalzona]

[*bfine32*]

https://www.yahoo.com/music/s/activists-plan-meet-gm-over-kid-rock-sponsorship-161940871.html

Activists want GM to cut ties with Kid Rock. Even though he no longer displays the flag at his concerts:

Quote:"He has not displayed it in his concerts, so they have said," Williams said of GM's statement. "We're going to take the opportunity to dialogue and hopefully their minds change. The best resolution is for GM to pull their sponsorship of Kid Rock. The entire civil rights community is ready to open up a campaign on this issue if General Motors doesn't want to take responsibility on this bad business issue."

[masonbengals fan]

Those so called activist need to concentrate on actually helping the people of the city of Detroit & quit worrying about a dam flag.

[Mike M (the other one)]

(07-15-2015, 05:42 PM)bfine32 Wrote: https://www.yahoo.com/music/s/activists-plan-meet-gm-over-kid-rock-sponsorship-161940871.html

Activists want GM to cut ties with Kid Rock. Even though he no longer displays the flag at his concerts:

Over the top, if he hasn't flown it in a few years as he says, then they are just making something out of nothing and using the free publicity to get donations off of his name.

I've been to a Kid Rock concert, there was no rebel flag there that I remember. American flag, yes.

[Ryuko]

(07-06-2015, 09:43 PM)RICHMONDBENGAL_07 Wrote: So I think we all agree, that the confederate flag should not be flown from government buildings.  And that any yahoo can fly one from their home, car, or motorcycle.  It may be used as beer cozies, t-shirts, bikinis, bumper stickers or whatever personal item you can think to slap it on. Including the General Lee.

What about public high schools? For example my son goes to a school that are called the "Rebels" and use the confederate flag.  Which is weird to me because his school is in Indiana.  However this is very rural Indiana and if you didn't know better, you could easily mistake it for Kentucky.  No offense to anyone in Kentucky.

I wish all the people in my facebook feed could agree that it shouldn't be on public buildings, and that stores have the right to remove it from their shelves, but I digress...

I think it's poor taste to have it as a high school mascot, as well. Any decent high school history class will tell you that the Confederacy was primarily a group of traitors, racists, and ultimately, losers (anyone who cares to argue that point is probably also flying a Nazi flag due to their anti-smoking agenda). Why one would willingly turn that into a mascot is beyond me. Even Ole Miss had the sense to switch mascots from "Colonel Reb" to a bear a few years back (see also, Redskins controversy in Washington compared to Miami of Ohio). If you're behind the times enough that a school in Mississippi is more PC than you, there's some catching up to be done.

Besides, as 'Zona alluded to, there are some much better "Rebels" in history to look up to.

[BmorePat87]

(07-15-2015, 06:58 PM)Ryuko Wrote: I wish all the people in my facebook feed could agree that it shouldn't be on public buildings, and that stores have the right to remove it from their shelves, but I digress...

I think it's poor taste to have it as a high school mascot, as well. Any decent high school history class will tell you that the Confederacy was primarily a group of traitors, racists, and ultimately, losers (anyone who cares to argue that point is probably also flying a Nazi flag due to their anti-smoking agenda). Why one would willingly turn that into a mascot is beyond me. Even Ole Miss had the sense to switch mascots from "Colonel Reb" to a bear a few years back (see also, Redskins controversy in Washington compared to Miami of Ohio). If you're behind the times enough that a school in Mississippi is more PC than you, there's some catching up to be done.

Besides, as 'Zona alluded to, there are some much better "Rebels" in history to look up to.

[Belsnickel]

(07-15-2015, 06:58 PM)Ryuko Wrote: I wish all the people in my facebook feed could agree that it shouldn't be on public buildings, and that stores have the right to remove it from their shelves, but I digress...

I think it's poor taste to have it as a high school mascot, as well. Any decent high school history class will tell you that the Confederacy was primarily a group of traitors, racists, and ultimately, losers (anyone who cares to argue that point is probably also flying a Nazi flag due to their anti-smoking agenda). Why one would willingly turn that into a mascot is beyond me. Even Ole Miss had the sense to switch mascots from "Colonel Reb" to a bear a few years back (see also, Redskins controversy in Washington compared to Miami of Ohio). If you're behind the times enough that a school in Mississippi is more PC than you, there's some catching up to be done.

Besides, as 'Zona alluded to, there are some much better "Rebels" in history to look up to.

(07-15-2015, 07:37 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote:

Rebel scum...

[*jason*]

(07-15-2015, 07:37 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote:

What is that?....

Rebellion against good tattoos?

 

[SteelCitySouth]

Quote:As a people, we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause.[4]… Such a flag…would soon take rank among the proudest ensigns of the nations, and be hailed by the civilized world as the white mans flag.[5]… As a national emblem, it is significant of our higher cause, the cause of a superior race, and a higher civilization contending against ignorance, infidelity, and barbarism. Another merit in the new flag is, that it bears no resemblance to the now infamous banner of the Yankee vandals.[6][9]

William T Thompson. Co-Designer of the Second Confederate Flag "Stainless Banner"

[GMDino]

(07-16-2015, 12:20 PM)SteelCitySouth Wrote: William T Thompson.  Co-Designer of the Second Confederate Flag "Stainless Banner"

Yep.

Had to share that on another message elsewhere.

And I GET that today folks today might not know or care...but that doesn't change it.

[*bfine32*]

(07-15-2015, 09:13 PM)jason Wrote: What is that?....

Rebellion against good tattoos?

 

Pretty sure it's a birth mark.

[RICHMONDBENGAL_07]

(07-16-2015, 01:39 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Pretty sure it's a birth mark.

So you're saying he was born that way?

[Mike M (the other one)]

Meanwhile in Oklahoma City. Obama was greeted by...

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/07/16/protesters-wave-confederate-flags-during-obama-visit/

[GMDino]

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/07/18/photo-of-black-officer-helping-white-supremacist-suffering-heat-stroke-goes-viral-says-it-all/

Quote:Photo Of Black Officer Helping White Supremacist Suffering Heat Stroke Goes Viral, Says It All
AUTHOR: JAMESON PARKER JULY 18, 2015 10:55 PM


In the wake of South Carolina’s decision to pull down its shameful Confederate flag from statehouse grounds, there has been a strong backlash from people who either (wrongly) believe the flag is about Southern “heritage,” or know damn well that the flag represents racism-inspired treason and like it anyway. Those who fall into the latter camp held a “Heritage” rally at the state capitol in Columbia and it was a predictable trainwreck.


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Among several clashes between racist groups, including members of the KKK and various neo-Nazi organizations, and onlookers were moments of almost surreal disconnect between those who came to rally for hate and those who were tasked to protect them. At many points throughout the day, pro-Confederate ralliers bit off more than they could chew, only to be saved by the very people they came to hurl racial slurs at. To be an African-American officer in Columbia, South Carolina this summer should practically qualify one for sainthood. Throughout it all, the professionalism exhibited in the face of such ugly hatred is a testament to the black men and women on the police force.

While people in full Nazi regalia or proudly showing off KKK membership badges marched through the streets, again and again black officers kept things from getting out of hand.

In a photograph that is quickly spreading around the world and may one day become a sickening symbol of how crazy this Confederate flag backlash really was, an African-American officer identified as Leroy Smith was tasked with helping a neo-Nazi get cooled down and re-hydrated after suffering a potential heat stroke in the hot South Carolina sun… just so the guy could get well enough to rejoin his friends again in arguing Smith was a member of an inferior race.


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Wow.

In other parts of the contentious rally, officers had to physically protect not-so-tough neo-Nazis from picking fights they could not win. In one case, an officer had to stand over a man draped in a Confederate flag to protect him as he lay on the ground.


As we’ve seen time and again, African-Americans are being asked to have patience and tolerance towards the people who hate them. In this case, even help them. And time and time again, they have risen to that challenge, despite it being quite clear that white supremacists would never do the same for them.

It has often been said that courage comes in many forms. Today it’s clear that sometimes it looks like an African-American police officer showing compassion to a man who has none for him. It’s a sick irony that many of the Confederate flag-waving hatemongers who came to Columbia to support their white heritage believe they are American “patriots.” They don’t even come close. The only patriots to be found out in those marches were the men and women who came across people who wouldn’t hesitate to spew vile slurs at them and concluded that even they, the very worst that hatred could produce, were worth protecting.

[GMDino]

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/watch-kkk-supporter-uses-gorilla-taunts-to-mock-black-crowd-during-tense-confederate-flag-rally/

WATCH: KKK supporter uses ‘gorilla’ taunts to mock black crowd during tense Confederate flag rally

Quote:After proclaiming that the Confederate flag isn’t a symbol of hate and vowing a peaceful protest against its removal, members of the Ku Klux Klan required a police escort to leave a rally in front of the South Carolina statehouse on Saturday.

The Klan rally was scheduled from 3 p.m. to 5 p.m. on the south side of the statehouse grounds, while on the north side, the Black Educators For Justice were scheduled from 12 p.m. to 4 p.m., Greenville Online reports. Governor Nikki Haley had asked people to stay home instead.

“Our family hopes the people of South Carolina will join us in staying away from the disruptive, hateful spectacle members of the Ku Klux Klan hope to create over the weekend and instead focus on what brings us together,” she said in a statement. “We want to make the Statehouse a lonely place for them. In doing so, we’ll honor those we have lost and continue to make our state stronger.”

Instead, the event turned raucous.

Despite numerous claims by the KKK that their event would be peaceful, videos of Klan members carrying confederate flags and taunting black protesters with ugly racist speech quickly emerged.

In one video, a white man with a shaved head can be seen making ape noises, another threatening to “hang your black *ss.” In another video, another Confederate flag-holding white man tells a person that they are the color of excrement.

According to Sam Tyson, who works digital media for ABC News, about 40-50 Klan members showed up. Members of the Black Panthers and other groups also came to counter them, in the “Countering the Attack on Black Unity” rally, according to local WISTV.

Things quickly escalated.

[Belsnickel]

In the wake of all of this I have seen a huge uptick in the number of Southern Crosses flying around my area. Lashed to pickups, hung on houses, even on a few businesses. People that never flew them before doing it now just to be contrary. It's been very interesting.

[BmorePat87]

(07-19-2015, 06:46 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: In the wake of all of this I have seen a huge uptick in the number of Southern Crosses flying around my area. Lashed to pickups, hung on houses, even on a few businesses. People that never flew them before doing it now just to be contrary. It's been very interesting.

A lot of trucks with confederate flags waving on the back. This is Maryland...

[Belsnickel]

(07-19-2015, 06:52 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: A lot of trucks with confederate flags waving on the back. This is Maryland...

Well, they did want to secede.

[*bfine32*]

(07-19-2015, 06:36 PM)GMDino Wrote: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/watch-kkk-supporter-uses-gorilla-taunts-to-mock-black-crowd-during-tense-confederate-flag-rally/

WATCH: KKK supporter uses ‘gorilla’ taunts to mock black crowd during tense Confederate flag rally

If folks would have listened and just ignored these clowns there would have been no issue. It is my understanding that the Black Panther rally was scheduled in responses to this rally. It was scheduled at the same place with overlapping times. Also folks showed up when asked to ignore. Folks were just looking for an altercation. It is fortunate it remained as muted as it did. Folks just gave these clowns the publicity they were looking for.  

[Johnny Cupcakes]

(07-19-2015, 06:46 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: In the wake of all of this I have seen a huge uptick in the number of Southern Crosses flying around my area. Lashed to pickups, hung on houses, even on a few businesses. People that never flew them before doing it now just to be contrary. It's been very interesting.

Yerp.  Here in Cincinnati, it has been like that as well.  A city that was not even part of the C.S.A., and there are tons of people repping this flag.  Mainly from the back of 1995 F-150s, but repping it nonetheless.  It's something that I had rarely seen until recently.