(01-09-2019, 10:50 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Your assertion of a Blue Wave may be over stated. However, it doesn't change the facts of who is POTUS. Not everyone gets to be POTUS.
FWIW, I'm sure it will come down to what I said a few months back. This barrier will be built by the Corp of Engineers and Trump will milk that all the way to 2020.
"Dems didn't care about border security, so I mandated that the good fighting men and women of our Armed Forces not only work to secure the border, but to build a necessary barrier."
If it's done like Corps projects in my area, then the debate is over. In 30 years, there still won't be any funding for the project, which will get restarted every few years with a couple millions dollars of funding, then mothballed again. Basically, it'll just be a long, slow waste of money instead of a short, quick waste of money.
Can we stop with the "stop terrorists" part of this whole thing? Besides the fact it isn't true, wouldn't they all just go to Canada and cross in from Canada along a much larger boarder with no wall? We actually know for a fact a terrorist in the 90's crossed over from Canada with a car full of explosives intent on blowing up a New Years eve celebration. The only reason the car got stopped in the guy was sweating in 30 degree weather and the agent thought it was weird.
If we are going to use scare tactics at least use ones like that make logical sense (Drugs, immigrants, etc).
(01-09-2019, 12:36 PM)bfine32 Wrote: That's why I put "I kid'. Because a simple mind is the easiest to read.
(01-09-2019, 07:46 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Of course it's Ok to kid, but it's better to know what someone is going to reply before they do so.
Cryin Chuck told his favorite lie when he used his standard sound bite that I “slammed the table & walked out of the room. He had a temper tantrum.” Because I knew he would say that, and after Nancy said no to proper Border Security, I politely said bye-bye and left, no slamming!
Quote:President Donald Trump has repeatedly advocated for a steel slat design for his border wall, which he described as "absolutely critical to border security" in his Oval Office address to the nation Tuesday. But Department of Homeland Security testing of a steel slatprototype proved it could be cut through with a saw, according to a report by DHS.
A photo exclusively obtained by NBC News shows the results of the test after military and Border Patrol personnel were instructed to attempt to destroy the barriers with common tools.
The Trump administration directed the construction of eight steel and concrete prototype walls that were built in Otay Mesa, California, just across the border from Tijuana, Mexico. Trump inspected the prototypes in March 2018. He has now settled on a steel slat, or steel bollard, design for the proposed border barrier additions. Steel bollard fencing has been used under previous administrations.
However, testing by DHS in late 2017 showed all eight prototypes, including the steel slats, were vulnerable to breaching, according to an internal February 2018 U.S. Customs and Border Protection report.
Photos of the breaches were not included in a redacted version of the CBP report, which was first obtained in a Freedom of Information Act Request by San Diego public broadcaster KPBS.
The photo of testing results obtained by NBC News was taken at the testing location along the California-Mexico border, known as "Pogo Row."
"While the design currently being constructed was informed by what we learned in the prototypes, it does not replicate those designs," said Waldman. "The steel bollard design is internally reinforced with materials that require time and multiple industrial tools to breach, thereby providing U.S. Border Patrol agents additional response time to affect a successful law enforcement resolution. In the event that one of the steel bollards becomes damaged, it is quick and cost-effective to repair.
"The professionals on the border know that a wall system is intended not only to prevent entry, it is intended to defer and to increase the amount of time and effort it takes for one to enter so that we can respond with limited border patrol agents. Even a wall that is being breached is a valuable tool in that it allows us to respond to the attempted illegal entry."
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
Quote:Trump says he 'never meant Mexico would write a check' for the wall
President Donald Trump says Mexico will pay for his proposed border wall through the revenue bump Trump hopes will come from a new trade deal pending in Congress.
"During the campaign, I said Mexico would pay for it," Trump tells reporters outside the White House. "They are paying for it with the incredible deal we made, the USMCA."
President Donald Trump on Thursday admitted that Mexico would not directly pay for the construction of his proposed wall along the southern border. Instead, he claims the wall will be paid for by revenue gained from a new trade deal pending in Congress.
"During the campaign, I said Mexico would pay for it," Trump told reporters outside the White House. "They are paying for it with the incredible deal we made, the USMCA."
That deal, short for the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement, was approved by those three nations following lengthy negotiations over a replacement for the North American Free Trade Agreement, which Trump has long slammed as the "single worst deal ever approved."
The Trump administration has provided few details about how the USMCA would lead Mexico to pay for the wall, or if the increased revenue from the NAFTA replacement would actually reimburse the U.S. taxpayers who would directly fund the wall's construction.
The president, whose central campaign promise was that Mexico would pay for a wall stretching across the roughly 2,000-mile border, added: "When I said Mexico would pay for the wall in front of thousands and thousands of people ... obviously I never meant Mexico would write a check." But on the campaign trail, Trump appeared to make that argument. A March 2016 memo to Washington Post reporters explained multiple ways to "compel Mexico" to "make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion" to keep the U.S. from cutting off the spigot of money it already sends to Mexico annually.
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Trump claimed today that he never said Mexico would pay us for the wall by "writing a check" and instead it would be paid for by savings on trade deals. His campaign literally called for Mexico to pay the US a one time $5-10b payment for the wall.
"They say ‘a wall is medieval.’ Well, so is a wheel. A wheel is older than a wall. The wheel is older than the wall, you know that? There are some things that work. You know what? A wheel works and a wall works. Nothing like a wall."
For the record, humans built walls thousands of years (likely 9,000 BC) before they invented wheels in 3,500 BC.
Trump claimed today that he never said Mexico would pay us for the wall by "writing a check" and instead it would be paid for by savings on trade deals. His campaign literally called for Mexico to pay the US a one time $5-10b payment for the wall.
That is literally in the post just above yours.
Nonetheless his supporters and those who feel the need to defend him don't care. They just believe the latest thing he says and ignore the rest.
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
Quote:Border official shows Trump tunnels under border wall
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[url=https://www.cnn.com/shows/situation-room]President Donald Trump said he is nearing a decision to declare a national emergency on the southern border, which he visited in person Thursday despite earlier reservations about taking the trip.
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Quote:Trump argues that we need a border wall to stop migrants just driving right across in their "unbelievable vehicles... stronger, bigger, and faster vehicles than our police have, than ICE has."
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(01-12-2019, 03:07 PM)GMDino Wrote: Trump argues that we need a border wall to stop migrants just driving right across in their "unbelievable vehicles... stronger, bigger, and faster vehicles than our police have, than ICE has."
Those vehicles truly are unbelievable. Also strange, how folks who have such amazing cars still want to come to the US because of better economic chances. How much better can it get? And then they still defile your women and join MS-13. Mexicans are so weird.
(01-12-2019, 03:34 PM)hollodero Wrote: Those vehicles truly are unbelievable. Also strange, how folks who have such amazing cars still want to come to the US because of better economic chances. How much better can it get? And then they still defile your women and join MS-13. Mexicans are so weird.
And that so many of them walk here....
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The Trump portrait of an unsustainable Border Crisis is dead on. “In the last two years, ICE officers made 266,000 arrests of aliens with Criminal Records, including those charged or convicted of 100,000 assaults, 30,000 sex crimes & 4000 violent killings.” America’s Southern....
....Border is eventually going to be militarized and defended or the United States, as we have known it, is going to cease to exist...And Americans will not go gentle into that good night. Patrick Buchanan. The great people of our Country demand proper Border Security NOW!
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