04-21-2023, 05:10 PM
It's amazing how Republicans spent 40+ years empowering corporations without ever imagining that they may choose to occasionally pander to liberals.
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04-21-2023, 05:10 PM
It's amazing how Republicans spent 40+ years empowering corporations without ever imagining that they may choose to occasionally pander to liberals.
04-21-2023, 08:16 PM
04-21-2023, 08:26 PM
(04-21-2023, 08:16 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: Is it pandering to liberals or trying to make money by appealing to the majority of Americans? Well, seeing as Anheuser-Busch contributes a buttload of money to the GOP and Disney embodied the avarice of "boot on the neck" plutocratic capitalism until the GOP went balls-deep in the culture war and decided it had to meddle in their affairs, I'd call it pandering, yes. We can debate the percentage of people it appeals to, but it's cynical marketing at its finest. Two corporations that were in a loving embrace with the GOP until the party lost control of the outraged and unwashed masses and let them dictate that the government needs to meddle in corporate affairs.
04-24-2023, 09:09 AM
Parts of Florida are flooding, there is a gas shortage in other parts. There is a continuing insurance problem and his fight with Disney is going awfully.
So DeSantis, the governor of Florida, is in Japan.
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04-26-2023, 01:00 PM
(04-24-2023, 09:09 AM)GMDino Wrote: Parts of Florida are flooding, there is a gas shortage in other parts. There is a continuing insurance problem and his fight with Disney is going awfully. Showing us he can perform on the world stage. Readying for the foreign policy debate.
04-26-2023, 01:25 PM
Disney finally said enough. They have filed a federal lawsuit against Ron DeSantis for a "targeted campaign of government retaliation"
They should win it too. Because every American with critical thinking skills KNOW DeSantis's actions have all been retaliation for Disney speaking up against the "Don't say Gay" bill Fueled by the pursuit of greatness.
04-26-2023, 01:30 PM
(04-26-2023, 01:25 PM)pally Wrote: Disney finally said enough. They have filed a federal lawsuit against Ron DeSantis for a "targeted campaign of government retaliation" I assumed Disney was going to retaliate with a fury against DeSantis, lest the next governor of FL forget who really runs that state. They're going to send a message, and as much as the media likes to joke that Donald Duck and Goofy are kicking DeSantis' ass, Disney's legion of lawyers are no joke. It's extra perfect since the new-era republicans are the ones who made sure giant corporations had the ability to legally grind anyone into a fine powder under their treads.
04-26-2023, 02:06 PM
The GOP's budget proposal has a 22% cut to DHS. The GOP keeps screaming about open borders *which they aren't). Get ready to see what cuts to the budgets and personnel of ICE and CBE looks like
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04-27-2023, 05:05 PM
(04-26-2023, 02:06 PM)pally Wrote: The GOP's budget proposal has a 22% cut to DHS. The GOP keeps screaming about open borders *which they aren't). Get ready to see what cuts to the budgets and personnel of ICE and CBE looks like And cuts funding for veterans affairs. Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
04-27-2023, 05:07 PM
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
04-28-2023, 11:58 AM
(04-27-2023, 05:07 PM)GMDino Wrote: For someone who is supposedly studying Trump's playbook, the Disney thing and this exchange here show that DeSantis just isn't a fast learner or lacks the charisma and reputation to pull this stuff off. Trump would have said that he crushed Disney and that Mickey Mouse and their CEO came into his office with tears in their eyes and kissed his ass and begged him to show them mercy. Then when asked about something like this torture thing he would have said it was fake news and that everyone who said it was true was going to get sued and then he'd set up a link where people could send him millions of dollars to sue them and then he'd just keep it. He probably would have set up a funding link to fight woke Disney too and then just kept that money, to boot. DeSantis is fighting real and difficult to win battles, meanwhile Trump just declares that he's won everything and smugly smiles and his fanbase eats it right up. DeSantis should just stay in Florida and work on undoing their term limits for governors because Trump is the GOP candidate until he dies and even after he dies people are still going to insist he's not really dead and he's going to run for president again. Right or wrong, DeSantis is actually trying to do stuff rather than sell a fictionalized idea of himself to voters the way Trump does. It shows that DeSantis has actually had a job before and had to meet some modicum of standards and performance while Trump has not.
05-05-2023, 02:22 PM
Florida's legislative session just ended...
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05-05-2023, 04:43 PM
(05-05-2023, 02:22 PM)GMDino Wrote: Florida's legislative session just ended... and failed to address any of Florida's real issues such as their unaffordable home owner's insurance market. Environmental issues such as the ongoing red tide crisis or flooding of coastal cities. Fueled by the pursuit of greatness.
05-08-2023, 02:37 PM
More of what DeSantis wants to bring to the rest of America:
https://popular.info/p/revealed-these-ten-books-are-considered Quote:REVEALED: These ten books are considered pornography in Ron DeSantis' Florida Do note worry comrade the State will tell you what is good or bad for you. Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
05-18-2023, 04:20 PM
Disney has pulled the plug on building a billion-dollar office complex that would have housed a division of the company being relocated from California. This division would have brought 2000 permanent jobs with an average salary of $120,000 to Orlando.
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05-18-2023, 04:54 PM
(05-18-2023, 04:20 PM)pally Wrote: Disney has pulled the plug on building a billion-dollar office complex that would have housed a division of the company being relocated from California. This division would have brought 2000 permanent jobs with an average salary of $120,000 to Orlando. The decision by DeSantis to go to war with Disney is one of the most absurd self-inflicted political wounds I've ever seen.
05-18-2023, 05:10 PM
(05-18-2023, 04:54 PM)Lucidus Wrote: The decision by DeSantis to go to war with Disney is one of the most absurd self-inflicted political wounds I've ever seen. The thing too is that Disney couldn't lie down to DeSantis even if they wanted to. They have to send a message that the next governor of Florida is going to have to let them rule the proverbial roost the way the others have. The DeSantis v Disney thing also highlights the strange new world of the GOP gaining support within its own ranks by interfering with corporations. Time will tell if this is a long-term trend, or if the DeSantis v Disney feud stands as a warning to the rest of the GOP. Let corporations go woke, or your political career will croak.
05-18-2023, 06:03 PM
(05-18-2023, 05:10 PM)Nately120 Wrote: The thing too is that Disney couldn't lie down to DeSantis even if they wanted to. They have to send a message that the next governor of Florida is going to have to let them rule the proverbial roost the way the others have. The DeSantis v Disney thing also highlights the strange new world of the GOP gaining support within its own ranks by interfering with corporations. Time will tell if this is a long-term trend, or if the DeSantis v Disney feud stands as a warning to the rest of the GOP. Ahh, you've actually hit on the interesting thing about this power struggle. Disney interjected themselves into Florida politics, DeSantis did not interject himself into Disney's current "woke" agenda. Regardless of where you stand on who's right or wrong in this struggle, this cannot be disputed. If you really boil it down to its essence, this is a conflict between a government beholden to citizens and a corporation beholden to shareholders. Who you'd prefer to win, the government being left or right leaning, is rather telling of your priorities (not you specifically, "you" in general). Also, to frame this as a scenario in which only Florida is "losing" is borderline Goebbels level propaganda. Disney is taking multiple hits and is currently facing a class action lawsuit for lying to their shareholders. They are stuck in Florida, you can't just move Disney World. As a poker player would say, Disney is pot committed to Florida, hence your assessment above is dead on accurate. https://www.forbes.com/sites/derekbaine/2023/05/17/disney-class-action-suit-accuses-execs-of-giving-analysts-inaccurate-guidance/?sh=5b5911632c0f I do yearn for the days when entertainment companies actually worried about entertaining instead of proselytizing.
05-18-2023, 06:13 PM
DeSantis and other politicians gladly take Disney's and other company's money for their campaigns. Disney, had a right to speak up. And seriously, the statement put out on the bill was so mild it wasn't even worth the effort. A true leader would have simply stated something like "that's their opinion" and moved on. DeSantis, instead, went full Rambo on them trying to prove...his masculinity? Any disagreement must be suppressed in the People's Republic of Florida.
Why would any company, even conservative ones, bring jobs into Florida if they don't need to? You don't toe the official line you're subject of not even close to subtle political attacks on your business. Fueled by the pursuit of greatness.
05-18-2023, 06:35 PM
(05-18-2023, 06:13 PM)pally Wrote: DeSantis and other politicians gladly take Disney's and other company's money for their campaigns. Of course they do. Quote:Disney, had a right to speak up. Of course they do, no one is arguing otherwise. Did DeSantis not have the right to respond as he did? Arguing whether someone had "the right" to act as they did doesn't really advance the conversation as this isn't in dispute. Quote:And seriously, the statement put out on the bill was so mild it wasn't even worth the effort. A true leader would have simply stated something like "that's their opinion" and moved on. DeSantis, instead, went full Rambo on them trying to prove...his masculinity? Any disagreement must be suppressed in the People's Republic of Florida. Hmm, I can't agree with you here. Disney's statement said, verbatim, "Our goal as a company is for this law to be repealed by the legislature or struck down in the courts, and we remain committed to supporting the national and state organizations working to achieve that." I'm not sure labeling that response as "mild" could be considered accurate by a reasonable person. Also, calling it the "Don't say gay" bill is a clear political talking point, further eroding your assertion. Quote:Why would any company, even conservative ones, bring jobs into Florida if they don't need to? You don't toe the official line you're subject of not even close to subtle political attacks on your business. No state income tax, business friendly government regulations, etc. A better question would be why would any company bring business to CA? Please refer to this CBS article regarding companies fleeing CA. Florida ranks fourth out the five top destinations for those leaving. All of the top five are red states or extremely purple. I doubt those business leaders know less about this kind of thing that you do. Also, it isn't "toeing the party line" to stay out of political fights unconnected to your business. |
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