Pence staff threatens action against reporter

[GMDino]

The good Christians...the very best ones...are GREAT liars.  They can justify it all.

Pence and Mother lied and got caught so, being good Christians they will refuse to take the responsibility and attack the people telling the truth.

https://www.mysanantonio.com/entertainment/article/Pence-staff-threatens-action-against-reporter-who-15238833.php

Quote:Vice President Mike Pence's office has threatened to retaliate against a reporter who revealed that Pence's office had told journalists they would need masks for Pence's visit to the Mayo Clinic - a requirement Pence himself did not follow.



Pence's trip to the clinic on Tuesday generated criticism after he was photographed without a surgical mask - the only person in the room not wearing one. The Minnesota clinic requires visitors to wear masks as a precaution against spreading the coronavirus.

Pence's wife, Karen Pence, said in an interview with Fox News on Thursday that he was unaware of the mask policy until his visit was over.

But Steve Herman, who covers the White House for Voice of America, suggested that there was more to the story after Karen Pence's interview.


"All of us who traveled with [Pence] were notified by the office of @VP the day before the trip that wearing of masks was required by the @MayoClinic and to prepare accordingly," tweeted Herman, who covered the trip as part of his rotation as one of the pool reporters, who share information with other reporters in limited-space situations.


The tweet apparently enraged Pence's staff, which told Herman that he had violated the off-the-record terms of a planning memo that had been sent to him and other reporters in advance of Pence's trip.

Herman said he was notified by the White House Correspondents' Association that Pence's office had banned him from further travel on Air Force Two, although a spokesperson in Pence's office later told VOA managers than any punishment was still under discussion, pending an apology from Herman or VOA.


The VOA is continuing to talk with Pence's staff, said Yolanda Lopez, the director of VOA's news center. She said it wasn't clear how the vice president intended to proceed.


Pence's press secretary, Katie Miller, declined to comment.


The issue, according to people involved, is whether Herman's tweet violated the off-the-record terms of a planning document sent via email Monday evening by the vice president's office to reporters who planned to travel with Pence to the clinic.


A copy of the document obtained by The Washington Post explicitly stated that masks are required for the visit and instructed reporters to wear them. "Please note, the Mayo Clinic is requiring all individuals traveling with the VP wear masks," the document said. "Please bring one to wear while on the trip."


The directive confirms that Pence's staff was well aware of the need for masks, raising the possibility that none of his aides alerted him to the requirement or that Pence had intentionally flouted it, perhaps to avoid being photographed in one. (Pence himself told reporters after the visit that since he doesn't have the coronavirus - he is tested frequently - he decided he could "speak to these researchers, these incredible health-care personnel, and look them in the eye and say thank you.")

However, the planning document is marked: "OFF THE RECORD AND FOR PLANNING PURPOSES ONLY." The off-the-record designation is standard for such logistical memos, indicating reporters are obligated not to publish or report the information. 
The White House typically keeps planning information confidential to maintain security for official trips.


But there's some question about how long the obligation lasts - whether it is permanent or only applies to the period before and during the trip.


Herman's tweet came nearly 48 hours after the vice president's trip had ended, suggesting the vice president's staff was more embarrassed by the disclosure than concerned about security.

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"My tweet speaks for itself," Herman said in a statement. "We always have and will strictly adhere to keeping off the record any White House communications to reporters for planning purposes involving logistics that have security implications prior to events. . . . All White House pool reporters, including myself and my VOA colleagues, take this very seriously."


As is, the vice president's office took no action against another reporter, Gordon Lubold of the Wall Street Journal, who traveled with Pence and tweeted something similar to Herman's tweet on Thursday. "Everyone in the entire Mayo Clinic had a mask on, everyone, and we were all told the day before we had to wear a mask if we entered the clinic," Lubold tweeted.


In a now-deleted tweet, the clinic said it had alerted Pence to its mask policy before his visit. A later statement from the clinic said only that it had informed Pence's office of the policy, not Pence personally.


Herman's employer, Voice of America, is a government-funded but independent news agency that has lately been the object of White House criticism. The Trump administration accused VOA earlier this month of promoting Chinese government 
propaganda in its reporting about the coronavirus. The VOA's director, Amanda Bennett, has defended its independence.



On Thursday, Pence wore a mask as he toured a General Motors auto plant in Indiana that has been converted into a factory making ventilators for hospitals around the country.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

He wasn’t aware of their masking policy until after he left?

That is funny. Her best defense is to suggest her husband is a complete moron totally unaware of what is happening around him and also illiterate and unable to read any of the posted signs outlining the Mayo Clinic’s masking policy for visitors.

[BigPapaKain]

If you're in a room and everyone but you is wearing a mask, shouldn't a lightbulb turn on in your head that maybe - JUST MAYBE - you should have one on, too?

[GMDino]

(05-01-2020, 07:52 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: He wasn’t aware of their masking policy until after he left?

That is funny. Her best defense is to suggest her husband is a complete moron totally unaware of what is happening around him and also illiterate and unable to read any of the posted signs outlining the Mayo Clinic’s masking policy for visitors.

(05-01-2020, 08:39 AM)BigPapaKain Wrote: If you're in a room and everyone but you is wearing a mask, shouldn't a lightbulb turn on in your head that maybe - JUST MAYBE - you should have one on, too?

Well the gang that couldn't lie straight has had multiple excuses:

1) Pence said he wanted to look people in the eye.
2) Pence said he gets tested regularly and knew he wasn't infected.
3) No one told him.



All them make him look like an idiot.

[BigPapaKain]

(05-01-2020, 09:14 AM)GMDino Wrote: Well the gang that couldn't lie straight has had multiple excuses:

1) Pence said he wanted to look people in the eye.
2) Pence said he gets tested regularly and knew he wasn't infected.
3) No one told him.



All them make him look like an idiot.

I've got a full face respirator that doesn't prevent me from looking people in the eye, so #1 is the most obvious bullshit.

#2 is super irrelevant, considering he could've been infected since his last test.

#3 is the most bold faced, since apparently there are signs EVERY GOD DAMNED WHERE saying that visitors must wear masks.

And people still defend these assholes? I mean, they know they can still support them AND call them on their bullshit, right?

[Belsnickel]

(05-01-2020, 07:52 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: He wasn’t aware of their masking policy until after he left?

That is funny. Her best defense is to suggest her husband is a complete moron totally unaware of what is happening around him and also illiterate and unable to read any of the posted signs outlining the Mayo Clinic’s masking policy for visitors.

Yeah, I'm sure the Mayo Clinic is at least as on top of things as my local hospital is, and when I went there for lab work on Wednesday there was a big sign between the parking lot and the door telling everyone to mask up before entering. Two staff members were in the entrance way between the inner and outer doors to ask questions, take your temperature, and provide a mask if someone did not have one. You weren't going in that building without a mask.

They are so full of shit.

[*Nately120*]

Pence was wearing a mask but only dudes with super big penises who are totally awesome can see it. Now, who is going to admit he wasn't wearing a mask now? Checkmate.

[BmorePat87]

(05-01-2020, 07:52 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: He wasn’t aware of their masking policy until after he left?

That is funny. Her best defense is to suggest her husband is a complete moron totally unaware of what is happening around him and also illiterate and unable to read any of the posted signs outlining the Mayo Clinic’s masking policy for visitors.

Isn't the best defense an honest defense?

[fredtoast]

(05-01-2020, 01:20 AM)GMDino Wrote: The good Christians...the very best ones...are GREAT liars.  They can justify it all.

Pence is a hypocrite ass hole.

But don't use him to smear ALL Christians.

I know the point you were trying to make, but it came out wrong.  The "good" Christians are actually amazing people.


Sorry to go off topic.

[GMDino]

(05-01-2020, 12:24 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Pence is a hypocrite ass hole.

But don't use him to smear ALL Christians.

I know the point you were trying to make, but it came out wrong.  The "good" Christians are actually amazing people.


Sorry to go off topic.

The "good" Christians...the REALLY "good" ones are the ones telling you how good they are but not acting like it.

Pence is one of them.

Sorry for the confusion.

[*bfine32*]

Why didn't the Mayo Clinic insist he wear a mask? They should be ashamed if they thought it posed a threat to any patients or faculty. And IMO Pence did the opposite of a Christian if he knowingly put folks in harms way in the name of politics. The "he said/she said is trival

[GMDino]

(05-01-2020, 06:01 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Why didn't the Mayo Clinic insist he wear a mask? They should be ashamed if they thought it posed a threat to any patients or faculty. And IMO Pence did the opposite of a Christian if he knowingly put folks in harms way in the name of politics. The "he said/she said is trival

You ever try to tell someone above your power level they "have to" do something?

No, no...he's one them "good" Christians.  Anti-abortion, don't be alone with women, no gays, etc.  Lying?  Absolutely ok. 

[*bfine32*]

(05-01-2020, 06:04 PM)GMDino Wrote: You ever try to tell someone above your power level they "have to" do something?

YES!! And believe it or not; they always complied. 

[Benton]

(05-01-2020, 06:01 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Why didn't the Mayo Clinic insist he wear a mask?

Heck who knows. It's not like he's part of an administration that retaliates against people that disagree with it.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(05-01-2020, 06:01 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Why didn't the Mayo Clinic insist he wear a mask? They should be ashamed if they thought it posed a threat to any patients or faculty. And IMO Pence did the opposite of a Christian if he knowingly put folks in harms way in the name of politics. The "he said/she said is trival

You're right.  They should have made him wear the mask or told him to get out.

[GMDino]

(05-01-2020, 06:12 PM)bfine32 Wrote: YES!! And believe it or not; they always complied. 

[SunsetBengal]

(05-01-2020, 12:38 PM)GMDino Wrote: The "good" Christians...the REALLY "good" ones are the ones telling you how good they are but not acting like it.

Pence is one of them.

Sorry for the confusion.

Actually, in my lifetime, the people that I've found to be the best Christians are the ones whom you don't even suspect of being followers, yet they always seem to carry out good deeds.

So, I guess it really depends upon what one's individual definition of a Christian is..  

[*bfine32*]

(05-01-2020, 07:40 PM)Benton Wrote: Heck who knows. It's not like he's part of an administration that retaliates against people that disagree with it.

As I said: They should be ashamed of themselves if they let him enter when they thought he'd be a risk by entering without a mask.

Don't you agree or just saying?

[*bfine32*]

(05-01-2020, 08:32 PM)GMDino Wrote:

Dino meme aside: You'd be surprised how compliant folks are when you explain it's a matter of life and death.

Did you just pose the question as an opportunity to post a meme or did you actually want an answer?

[*bfine32*]

(05-01-2020, 08:52 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Actually, in my lifetime, the people that I've found to be the best Christians are the ones whom you don't even suspect of being followers, yet they always seem to carry out good deeds.

So, I guess it really depends upon what one's individual definition of a Christian is..  

As I've always said: If you want to know how a Christian should act, just ask an atheist.