10-01-2015, 11:42 AM
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SCOTUS orders thrice-divorced KY county clerk to issue marriage license
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10-01-2015, 11:59 AM
(10-01-2015, 11:42 AM)Rotobeast Wrote: Which would be applicable to anyone trying to build a society. True. But it was more about you are a Catholic at birth...because god says so. So the more babies you have the happier god is. ![]() Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
10-01-2015, 02:05 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/10/01/kentucky-governor-steve-beshear-hits-back-at-county-clerk-kim-davis-for-her-lawsuit-against-him-re-same-sex-marriage-licenses/73137134/
Ky. governor rips Kim Davis lawsuit as 'forlorn' Quote:"Absurd." "Forlorn." "Obtuse." ![]() Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
10-01-2015, 02:14 PM
"At issue here are marriage licenses issued by the Office of Rowan County Clerk and not Kim Davis individually, as Kim Davis individually has no authority to issue such licenses," he wrote. "The Office of Rowan County Clerk does not have a right to free exercise of religion."
THIS!!!!
10-01-2015, 03:03 PM
(10-01-2015, 02:14 PM)fredtoast Wrote: "At issue here are marriage licenses issued by the Office of Rowan County Clerk and not Kim Davis individually, as Kim Davis individually has no authority to issue such licenses," he wrote. "The Office of Rowan County Clerk does not have a right to free exercise of religion." Just curious on something and hoping you might know...... When she was sworn in (signed contract or however it goes down), does the oath (or paperwork) include upholding the constitution as it stands at that time, or does it go so far as to have them agree to uphold future amendments/decisions/interpretations ? Again, I don't know anything about it and wondered if this is where she intended on having some ground.
10-01-2015, 03:28 PM
(10-01-2015, 03:03 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: Just curious on something and hoping you might know...... I understand what you are trying to say, but neither the Constitution has nor the authority of the Supreme Court have changed she went into office.
10-01-2015, 04:34 PM
(10-01-2015, 03:03 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: Just curious on something and hoping you might know...... I'm going with she goes with whatever the constitution says at any time. So if the constitution were amended to say gay marriage is legal, then she upholds that. Otherwise no current government employee who takes an oath would have to respect any amendments to the Constitution.
“History teaches that grave threats to liberty often come in times of urgency, when constitutional rights seem too extravagant to endure.”-Thurgood Marshall
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10-01-2015, 05:02 PM
(10-01-2015, 03:28 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I understand what you are trying to say, but neither the Constitution has nor the authority of the Supreme Court have changed she went into office. (10-01-2015, 04:34 PM)michaelsean Wrote: I'm going with she goes with whatever the constitution says at any time. So if the constitution were amended to say gay marriage is legal, then she upholds that. Otherwise no current government employee who takes an oath would have to respect any amendments to the Constitution. That's what I thought too. Although nothing was amended. Just the current law was expanded to include SSM. Or, perhaps better put, the old law could no longer exclude SSM. ![]() Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
10-02-2015, 01:23 AM
10-02-2015, 01:27 AM
(10-01-2015, 01:18 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Incorrect. The meeting wasn't known until Davis opened her yap about it. The pope's handlers then admitted it took place. With the usual caveats of course. So the Pope is to be disrespected because he didn't tweet out about his meeting with Davis or post it on his Facebook page? ![]() ![]()
10-02-2015, 01:30 AM
(10-02-2015, 01:27 AM)bfine32 Wrote: So the Pope is to be disrespected because he didn't tweet out about his meeting with Davis or post it on his Facebook page? If you don't understand why meeting with her in a clandestine fashion is cowardly given the current climate then you're not worth the time trying to explain it to you.
10-02-2015, 01:32 AM
(10-02-2015, 01:30 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: If you don't understand why meeting with her in a clandestine fashion is cowardly given the current climate then you're not worth the time trying to explain it to you. Okey Doke; back to your segway. ![]() ![]()
10-02-2015, 01:34 AM
10-02-2015, 01:37 AM
(10-02-2015, 01:34 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Way to address the point being made. Not exactly the moral courage I expect from a veteran. You made no point; only assumed superiority. Don't start none.............won't be none. ![]() ![]()
10-02-2015, 01:38 AM
(10-02-2015, 01:27 AM)bfine32 Wrote: So the Pope is to be disrespected because he didn't tweet out about his meeting with Davis or post it on his Facebook page? It is not just that he did not publicize it. It is more about the fact that at first he refused to even admit it happened. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/30/us/county-clerk-kim-davis-who-denied-gay-couples-visited-pope.html?_r=0 Vatican officials initially would not confirm that the meeting occurred, finally doing so on Wednesday afternoon, while refusing to discuss any details.
10-02-2015, 01:41 AM
10-02-2015, 01:43 AM
(10-02-2015, 01:38 AM)fredtoast Wrote: It is not just that he did not publicize it. It is more about the fact that at first he refused to even admit it happened. The Vatican most likely thought that a meeting between the 2 was none of the public's business. Doesn't make him a coward as others would assert. However, I do remember how you and others called Huckabee courageous because he made sure his meetings with Davis were pubic knowledge. ![]() ![]()
10-02-2015, 01:45 AM
(10-02-2015, 01:41 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Keep pretending that, and pretending you're not a moral coward. No matter what you think of em I've never dodged points, you... not so much. Enough about me. I see you are not assuming superiority again. ![]() ![]()
10-02-2015, 01:45 AM
10-02-2015, 01:47 AM
(10-02-2015, 01:45 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Even when the person he met with was trying to make it national news? Who said he was trying to protect anyone? I see you failed to give your opinion of Huckabee making his meetings so well known ![]() ![]() |
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