Sam Brownback cuts medicaid funding to Planned Parentood

[StLucieBengal]

(01-14-2016, 01:00 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Please, don't start this ignorance again.  Let's not go back to the days when this forum was flooded with dozens of threads all about Lucies silly eugenics claims.

Sanger did support eugenics in a time when many many reputible people also supported it, bnut noe of that has anything to do with Planned Parenthood today.  Planned Parenthood treats poor and "dark skinned people" who have problems with reproductive health in order to HELP THEM HAVE BABIES.  The eugenics claims today are ridiculous and only impress the rubes who want to hear that sort of stuff.

Yes we Should hush all discussion exposing an organization who still follows and supports the negative eugenics policies it was founded on......

Nothing to see here people.... They are helping poor non white's have children .... They are doing that by destroying 47% of the black and brown babies born in New York City alone.

Nothing like a modern day equlivilant of the negro project.

But yes go back to your cozy beighborhood where you don't have to wonder why there is a facility in your area that makes sure there isn't too many people who look like you running around.

And yes it's funded partially by the government even though it makes a profit every year and doesn't need that gov cash.

But yes you are right .... Nothing to see here.

[fredtoast]

(01-14-2016, 07:56 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Yes we Should hush all discussion exposing an organization who still follows and supports the negative eugenics policies it was founded on......

Nothing to see here people.... They are helping poor non white's have children .... They are doing that by destroying 47% of the black and brown babies born in New York City alone.    

Nothing like a modern day equlivilant of the negro project.  

But yes go back to your cozy beighborhood where you don't have to wonder why there is a facility in your area that makes sure there isn't too many people who look like you running around.    

And yes it's funded partially by the government even though it makes a profit every year and doesn't need that gov cash.  

But yes you are right .... Nothing to see here.

All abortions at PP are voluntary.

More white women get abortions than minorities.

PP helps the minorities that want to have babies.

PP has absolutely nothing in common with a eugenics program.  You have to be a total rube to not see this.  

[Vlad]

(01-14-2016, 09:35 PM)fredtoast Wrote: All abortions at PP are voluntary.

More white women get abortions than minorities.

PP helps the minorities that want to have babies.

PP has absolutely nothing in common with a eugenics program.  You have to be a total rube to not see this.  

Well yeah, logic dictates that white women vastly outnumber blacks so naturally they would have more abortions.

Why abortion is called black genocide is because black women have the highest abortion ratio. Black women’s abortion ratio is 459 abortions per 1,000 live births, while white women’s abortion ratio is 132 abortions per 1,000 live births.

Why do you guys want to see so many blacks die?

[Vlad]

(01-14-2016, 01:00 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Sanger did support eugenics in a time when many many reputible people also supported it, bnut noe of that has anything to do with Planned Parenthood today.  

That's fair, just don't let me catch you saying reputable people such as Thomas Jefferson were evil because they owned or supported slavery, and that slavery has everything to do with why the back man in 2016 is at the bottom of the socioeconomic latter.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(01-14-2016, 11:54 PM)Vlad Wrote: Well yeah, logic dictates that white women vastly outnumber blacks so naturally they would have more abortions.

Why abortion is called black genocide is because black women have the highest abortion ratio. Black women’s abortion ratio is 459 abortions per 1,000 live births, while white women’s abortion ratio is 132 abortions per 1,000 live births.

Why do you guys want to see so many blacks die?

We'd rather see them get access to cheap birth control so they won't have to possibly get an abortion.  Unfortunately the GOP isn't a big fan of affordable, accessible birth control either.  Paradox much?

[StLucieBengal]

(01-14-2016, 09:35 PM)fredtoast Wrote: All abortions at PP are voluntary.

More white women get abortions than minorities.

PP helps the minorities that want to have babies.

PP has absolutely nothing in common with a eugenics program.  You have to be a total rube to not see this.  

Of course they are voluntary. That was the plan to make them believe they were being helped.

You do realize that you are making the exact same arguments used in the negro project right..... To convince the undesirables from reproducing out of control.

[StLucieBengal]

Oh and Fred ..... There was never any reputable people subscribing to negative eugenics. Only evil people. They fooled people into supporting these crazy things.

The fact you are here regurgitating the exact same supporting statements today shows that the negro project worked and is still working today.

If it wasn't working then 47% of New York city's black pregnancies wouldn't be aborted every year. .

[GMDino]

(01-15-2016, 01:07 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Oh and Fred ..... There was never any reputable people subscribing to negative eugenics.   Only evil people.   They fooled people into supporting these crazy things.    

The fact you are here regurgitating the exact same supporting statements today shows that the negro project worked and is still working today.    

If it wasn't working then 47% of New York city's black pregnancies wouldn't be aborted every year.   .

And if you ignore every other (legitimate) outside factor that goes in to the decision to have an abortion your would be correct about that statistic.

But then you would be ignoring every other socio-economic factor that goes in to the decision to have an abortion...and without those you can cling to your one talking point.

Lies, damned lies, and statistics brother.

[fredtoast]

(01-15-2016, 01:03 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Of course they are voluntary.  That was the plan to make them believe they were being helped.  

You do realize that you are making the exact same arguments used in the negro project right.....  To convince the undesirables from reproducing out of control.

An abortion is beneficial to poor people who can not afford to properly raise the child.

It is not a lie to trick anyone.  It is 100% true.

[fredtoast]

(01-14-2016, 11:54 PM)Vlad Wrote: Well yeah, logic dictates that white women vastly outnumber blacks so naturally they would have more abortions.

Why abortion is called black genocide is because black women have the highest abortion ratio. Black women’s abortion ratio is 459 abortions per 1,000 live births, while white women’s abortion ratio is 132 abortions per 1,000 live births.

Why do you guys want to see so many blacks die?

Blacks have a higher percentage of abortions generally becaus they have a higher percentage of women living in poverty.

Why do you want to force these people to have children they can not afford?  Why do you hate freedom?

[BmorePat87]

(01-15-2016, 12:38 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Blacks have a higher percentage of abortions generally becaus they have a higher percentage of women living in poverty.

Why do you want to force these people to have children they can not afford?  Why do you hate freedom?

Correct, and contraceptive use in white middle class women has increased since Roe v Wade while poor women struggle with the use of contraceptives and access to them.

Basically his evil theory only works if they planned on having contraceptive use increase for middle class white women and for contraceptive access to decrease for poor women.

http://prospect.org/article/demographics-abortion-its-not-what-you-think

[StLucieBengal]

(01-15-2016, 12:36 PM)fredtoast Wrote: An abortion is beneficial to poor people who can not afford to properly raise the child.

It is not a lie to trick anyone.  It is 100% true.

Hey I am only saying that you are using the same propaganda and reasoning that was used to justify the negro project.

It's clear that you and others here support the continuation of the negro project. The name has changed but it still lives on today. Just because I use the original language doesn't change the meaning.

progressives have been great at crafting the message and have gotten away from these original terms so that the meanings would be accepted in popular culture.

[StLucieBengal]

(01-15-2016, 03:14 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Correct, and contraceptive use in white middle class women has increased since Roe v Wade while poor women struggle with the use of contraceptives and access to them.

Basically his evil theory only works if they planned on having contraceptive use increase for middle class white women and for contraceptive access to decrease for poor women.

http://prospect.org/article/demographics-abortion-its-not-what-you-think

Sanger (founder of PP) spoke of only 13.6% of the population should be able to have children.

Middle class white's are also undesirables in addition to the poor. The difference is that the middle class isn't as dependent on low income medical care and can afford to get better and more informed medical decisions. They also can't tell middle class that they can't afford a family. They can tell them they need to, get a career, have a life before a family, get an education...... It's just the same negative eugenics message wrapped up for whites and/or middle class people who have more resources and access to education.

[fredtoast]

(01-16-2016, 01:06 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote:     

It's clear that you and others here support the continuation of the negro project. 

No.  That is not clear at all.  You just don't get it.

The fact that extreme racists agree with you about dark skinned people from certain countries being savages does not mean that you agree with everything they say does it?  You have always denied you are a racists despite the fact that racists agree with you.

So don't try to use that same trick here.  Claiming that is a benefit for people to not have children they can not afford is not the same as wanting to eliminate all people of a certain race from having children.

[fredtoast]

(01-16-2016, 01:12 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Sanger (founder of PP)  spoke of only 13.6% of the population should be able to have children.  

And that has zero to do with current PP policies which actually HELP the poorest black women have children if they want to.  They provide treatment for these women if they are having reproductive health problems.

[StLucieBengal]

(01-16-2016, 01:20 PM)fredtoast Wrote: No.  That is not clear at all.  You just don't get it.

The fact that extreme racists agree with you about dark skinned people from certain countries being savages does not mean that you agree with everything they say does it?  You have always denied you are a racists despite the fact that racists agree with you.

So don't try to use that same trick here.  Claiming that is a benefit for people to not have children they can not afford is not the same as wanting to eliminate all people of a certain race from having children.

What extreme racists agree with me?

And the whole idea of a racist around here is beyond a joke. None of you guys can accurately define it and only use it to demonize someones ideas.

[StLucieBengal]

(01-16-2016, 01:21 PM)fredtoast Wrote: And that has zero to do with current PP policies which actually HELP the poorest black women have children if they want to.  They provide treatment for these women if they are having reproductive health problems.

That actually has everything to do with pats comment about middle class white's. The idea you are having trouble wrapping your head around is that you are using the exact same reasoning from the negro project to justify today's PP.

what's funny is that you are getting upset only because I am using the original language of the same system. Had I called it the population project you would not be upset at all. Unfortunately for you it was the negro project and yes it's as awful as it sounded and you are parroting those same reasons today to justify your position.

[Rotobeast]

Countdown to the banning of the word "negro" in 3,.....2,.....

[fredtoast]

(01-16-2016, 01:27 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: What extreme racists agree with me?  

All the extreme racists that think people from certain countries are savages.

[GMDino]

(01-16-2016, 02:16 PM)fredtoast Wrote: All the extreme racists that think people from certain countries are savages.