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Turkey shooting down Russian planes
(11-26-2015, 01:30 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: This one?  



This was an example of who we should limit for immigration.   I asked tongue in cheek if they would be happier if we excluded a white country .  The only white country at war was the Ukraine.   Obviously by my comments about Ukrainians I do not see them as a threat.   Actually would think we would benefit from them mainly because they understand the need for assimilation.

So, again, whites at war are acceptable...because they are the savages of those brown countries.

I bet you only eat the white meat today.   Cool
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(11-26-2015, 01:41 PM)GMDino Wrote: So, again, whites at war are acceptable...because they are the savages of those brown countries.

I bet you only eat the white meat today.   Cool

This is quite a leap. Ukraine is acceptable because they Live in a society of laws.
(11-26-2015, 02:13 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: This is quite a leap.  Ukraine is acceptable because they Live in a society of laws.

So no brown people have laws in their country?  

And you want the rest of the world to settle on a single definition of "radical"?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3334650/Russia-enters-diplomatic-food-fight-Turkey-Putin-tells-shoppers-stop-buying-Turkish-tomatoes-funding-missile-shoot-boys.html

In the spirit of actually sticking to the OP.....

Interesting read. Especially what the downed pilot says . And the allegation that turkey is buy oil from Isis. Which is not far fetched considering turkey has been worried they would go into Yorker given their Muslim population. Maybe they are buying Isis off to keep them away.

For anyone who knows pilot procedure in these circumstances.... Do they fly parallel and warn? Or just shoot?
(11-26-2015, 01:30 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: This one?  



This was an example of who we should limit for immigration.   I asked tongue in cheek if they would be happier if we excluded a white country .  The only white country at war was the Ukraine.   Obviously by my comments about Ukrainians I do not see them as a threat.   Actually would think we would benefit from them mainly because they understand the need for assimilation.

Yes, that was the one "white" country your character included in his list of savage countries. Not surprised your character can't remember. 

Don't you consider the U.S. at war?  Or not "white" enough?
(11-26-2015, 03:54 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Yes, that was the one "white" country your character included in his list of savage countries. Not surprised your character can't remember. 

Don't you consider the U.S. at war?  Or not "white" enough?


Being at war does not make you savage.   Being an uncivilized nation does.  

No one from the west fears for their lives when they are in Ukraine.  Even with the west destabilizing the Ukraine.  We have nothing to fear from Ukrainian people.

They were mentioned to show how ridiculous it was to consider a country savage or not based on skin color.
This is getting more slimy by the day.



Turkey claims they didn't know what country the plane belonged to.

So they shot down a plane that flew in their airspace for 17 seconds without identifying it.

Are there folks still defending this shooting?
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(11-26-2015, 08:53 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Turkey claims they didn't know what country the plane belonged to.

So they shot down a military bomber that flew in their airspace for 17 seconds without identifying it.

Are there folks still defending this shooting?
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(11-26-2015, 09:33 PM)Benton Wrote: fixed

Well there's one defending it.

It was in Turkish airspace for 17 seconds, at top speed that means it covered about 8 miles of Turkish airspace. There was definitely no attempt of escort and claims of no warning.  I cannot believe anyone would consider this anything other than an hostile act. 

I wonder if the response would be different if it were a French plane that crossed their airspace for 17 seconds and then shot down outside their airspace? It could have been any Nationality as Turkey said they didn't identify the plane;  yet some will suggest they knew it was a Military Bomber. They will even fix posts to make sure it is pointed out.

FWIW

 http://news.yahoo.com/us-knew-flight-path-plane-downed-turkey-putin-202631534.html

Quote:President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that Russia had given prior information to the United States of the flight path of the plane downed by Turkey on the Syrian border.
"The American side, which leads the coalition that Turkey belongs to, knew about the location and time of our planes' flights, and we were hit exactly there and at that time," Putin said at a joint press conference with French counterpart Francois Hollande in the Kremlin.
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(11-26-2015, 10:06 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Well there's one defending it.

It was in Turkish airspace for 17 seconds, at top speed that means it covered about 8 miles of Turkish airspace. There was definitely no attempt of escort and claims of no warning.  I cannot believe anyone would consider this anything other than an hostile act. 

I wonder if the response would be different if it were a French plane that crossed their airspace for 17 seconds and then shot down outside their airspace? It could have been any Nationality as Turkey said they didn't identify the plane;  yet some will suggest they knew it was a Military Bomber. They will even fix posts to make sure it is pointed out.

FWIW

 http://news.yahoo.com/us-knew-flight-path-plane-downed-turkey-putin-202631534.html

if this was a Russian bomber 8 miles into Texas, what would be the course of action? 8 miles into Arizona and headed into Phoenix with an unknown payload?

come on, if this was Russia shooting down a jet from south Korea or Japan, Putin lovers would be high giving each other.

but a country with a Muslim population just gave the finger to Putin and conservatives are really doubting he's now Reagan incarnate.
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(11-27-2015, 12:09 AM)Benton Wrote: if this was a Russian bomber 8 miles into Texas, what would be the course of action? 8 miles into Arizona and headed into Phoenix with an unknown payload?

come on, if this was Russia shooting down a jet from south Korea or Japan, Putin lovers would be high giving each other.

but a country with a Muslim population just gave the finger to Putin and conservatives are really doubting he's now Reagan incarnate.

We wouldn't let Russia doing bombing runs In Mexico. We would be doing it. So that comparison isn't a good one . Why won't turkey bomb Isis and free Syrian army?

They also had a hotline with the Russians to alert them if there are any issues.

Turkey is buying oil from Isis and trying to protect the free Syrian army . That's why they have asked for a no fly zone in the area. Russia has Been wearing out all the oil Isis is delivering to turkey.
(11-26-2015, 08:27 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Being at war does not make you savage.   Being an uncivilized nation does.  

No one from the west fears for their lives when they are in Ukraine.  Even with the west destabilizing the Ukraine.  We have nothing to fear from Ukrainian people.

They were mentioned to show how ridiculous it was to consider a country savage or not based on skin color.

Your character wrote the Ukraine was savage because they were at war. Now your character is calling himself a liar. God damn this stupid bullshit is hilarious. 

You called the people from the Middle East savage animals and your character has a thread in Klotsch about should he worry about a lay over in Turkey?  WTF?  Seriously?  Your character would shit his pants if he were on a plane headed to a savage country surrounded by savage animals. In another thread your character claims rapes increase in neighborhoods when Muslims move in, but your character is considering taking a tour of a Muslim country wit his alleged wife and daughters. "Your" comedy gold. 
The whole situation is messed up.  

Russia, Syria, Iran don't want to destroy Isis right away until the free Syrian army is wiped.   They are using Isis as a cover to wipe out the FSA.  

Turkey doesn't want Isis or FSA hurt.   They have interests in both.  

France wants Isis dead, now working with Russia

USA, U.K., and others are protecting the FSA.  And using Isis as a pawn to arm up and make sure the FSA overthrown Assad.  

Russia will use this to fracture NATO.   If NATO is to survive then they should expel Turkey.   When they do not do this .... Russia will use this leverage to fracture more to their side.    Putin's goal from the beginning was to blow up NATO which was formed to fight the soviets.
(11-27-2015, 12:09 AM)Benton Wrote: if this was a Russian bomber 8 miles into Texas, what would be the course of action? 8 miles into Arizona and headed into Phoenix with an unknown payload?

come on, if this was Russia shooting down a jet from south Korea or Japan, Putin lovers would be high giving each other.

but a country with a Muslim population just gave the finger to Putin and conservatives are really doubting he's now Reagan incarnate.

It  appears you may have me confused with a "Putin lover". I've really never considered Muslim or Reagan in my assessment and there is absolutely no way I would be "high fiving" anyone if Russia shot a plane down form Japan or S. Korea.  

I have considered the rules of war and a country that shoots your plane down for being in their airspace for 17 seconds (and perhaps shared the flight path with Alcon) is displaying a hostile act. 

Your Texas hypothetical makes zero sense. I've already given you a more equivalent scenario of Russia skirting Alaska on their way to Canada. 

What would be your course of action if a Russian aircraft entered our airspace (Alaskan) for 17 second on the way to Canada because Canadians admitted to bombing one of their commercial airliners and killing about 300 of their innocent citizens?    
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(11-26-2015, 08:27 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Being at war does not make you savage.   Being an uncivilized nation does.  

No one from the west fears for their lives when they are in Ukraine.  Even with the west destabilizing the Ukraine.  We have nothing to fear from Ukrainian people.

They were mentioned to show how ridiculous it was to consider a country savage or not based on skin color.

Your character mentioned the Ukraine to include one "white" country. Not for the idiotic reason your character claimed just now. 
(11-27-2015, 01:49 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Your character mentioned the Ukraine to include one "white" country. Not for the idiotic reason your character claimed just now. 

Ah an off topic response. Not sure what this has to do with turkey or Russia.

My character will stick to the thread topic.

You could be constructive as use some of that military knowledge on the issue at hand. But maybe your character wasn't really in the military. Maybe you just played a lot of call of duty and was in the ROTC. Smirk
(11-27-2015, 02:01 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Ah an off topic response.   Not sure what this has to do with turkey or Russia.  

My character will stick to the thread topic.  

You could be constructive as use some of that military knowledge on the issue at hand.    But maybe your character wasn't really in the military.   Maybe you just played a lot of call of duty and was in the ROTC.   Smirk

I already posted proof for you, blutarsky. Besides my military experience would be completely lost on someone like you. 
(11-27-2015, 02:05 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: I already posted proof for you, blutarsky. Besides my military experience would be completely lost on someone like you. 

Haha sure...... You should get my alts right. Bfine, Roto, Richmond, Benton, baltimorepat, and bengalzona

Obviously you are faking your so called military expierence. Just admit it man.... You play a lot of Call of Duty . Big Grin
(11-27-2015, 02:11 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Haha sure......    You should get my alts right.  Bfine, Roto, Richmond, Benton, baltimorepat, and bengalzona

Obviously you are faking your so called military expierence.   Just admit it man.... You play a lot of Call of Duty .   Big Grin

http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Christian-Nutjob-Ben-Carson-says-Science-is-Satanic?pid=68232#pid68232

"Your" giving yourself away, blutarsky. 

I have posted proof because, unlike you, I'm not a liar. Plus I have a pair of balls, Mr. Type A "Man."





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