#WalkAway

[SunsetBengal]

Just sayin'  it's not too late to join the movement.  

[hollodero]

I think that's a bit childish. Show some extremists and their stupid posters and tweets, associate it with liberalism as a whole and then claim you have changed sides to escape false narratives and fraud science for an agenda's purpose. And then put forward a false narrative with dramatic music and everything. Yeah, childish.

And of course as a seasoned republican then claim climate change is a hoax because of reasons and believe that what Trump puts out aren't false narratives at all. This behaviour is one of the stranger byproducts of a bipolar political spectrum. That poor sheep ran from the wolf right into the butchery.

[BmorePat87]

I don't know man, I like my rights, providing for those in need, and treating others like they're equal to me.

[Millhouse]

Lol. I mean yeah, I know a lot of the left doesn't embrace many of those things, but at the same time it does them things seem to appear to be an upward trend that doesn't get denounced by the left either. And due to that is why I never will be a Democrat, plus a couple of other reasons.

On the flipside, I left the Repubs because of them, in my opinion, going backwards instead of forward. They have yet to embrace a pro-environment stance. Have embraced giving tax cuts to the rich, and being very pro Corporation. And then throw in the religious conservatives of the party that believe their religious ideas should supersede the constitution and the law.

So now I am an independent, and probably will be for the rest of my life because both parties are trending towards the sides as opposed to the middle.

[NATI BENGALS]

Yea.. I watched a little clip of a trumpet rally the other day. He was going on about us vs them. And how he was super elite with the best boat and nicest things.

Maybe one of these days i will be a giant ass clown with multiple bankruptcies who was bailed out by Russians and have total disregard for the constitution and rule of law.

Until then... I will continue to be a decent person

[SunsetBengal]

Wow, seems nobody enjoys a good spoof thread much these days. Heck, I can remember a time in the not so distant past, that the P&R regulars could have had fun with something like this all day long.

Maybe that's the problem with both sides in politics today? Everybody taking themselves so seriously that they forgot how to have fun.

Oh, and for the record, I think that wishy washy fruit cake is headed straight for the Bernie Sanders Socialist Party.

[Dill]

(06-29-2018, 11:08 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: I don't know man, I like my rights, providing for those in need, and treating others like they're equal to me.

Extremism!

Fortunately there are too few of you to influence elections.

[hollodero]

(06-29-2018, 06:43 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Maybe that's the problem with both sides in politics today?  Everybody taking themselves so seriously that they forgot how to have fun.

Maybe, but I don't think it's that. It's rather that those sort of things don't seem so unrealistic or satirical any more. All arguments used in the video are arguments taken and made quite seriously by many. It's a time where common sense is so universally lost.

[Au165]

(06-29-2018, 10:35 PM)hollodero Wrote: Maybe, but I don't think it's that. It's rather that those sort of things don't seem so unrealistic or satirical any more. All arguments used in the video are arguments taken and made quite seriously by many. It's a time where common sense is so universally lost.

This is the bigger issue. There used to be a middle ground people could deal with living in, but it seems today it is one side or the other. It goes beyond politics too. Compromise where everyone gives up a little and acknowledges no one got everything they wanted is simply lost it seems. 

[Millhouse]

(06-29-2018, 06:43 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Wow, seems nobody enjoys a good spoof thread much these days.  Heck, I can remember a time in the not so distant past, that the P&R regulars could have had fun with something like this all day long.

Maybe that's the problem with both sides in politics today?  Everybody taking themselves so seriously that they forgot how to have fun.

Oh, and for the record, I think that wishy washy fruit cake is headed straight for the Bernie Sanders Socialist Party.  

Want to hear something a bit funny. Over the weekend I was driving to the store and errands stuff listening to 700 wlw. And this very topic with whoever this guy who made this vid you posted was brought up.

So even though you made this thread in jest, it actually has some merit to it, especially if it starts to grow.

Only problem if some leave the Crats due to it being 'taken over' by feminazis, sjws, etc. they have no where to go, because the Repub Party is currently going further right on big issues like environment.

[SunsetBengal]

(07-02-2018, 02:01 PM)Millhouse Wrote: Want to hear something a bit funny. Over the weekend I was driving to the store and errands stuff listening to 700 wlw. And this very topic with whoever this guy who made this vid you posted was brought up.

So even though you made this thread in jest, it actually has some merit to it, especially if it starts to grow.

Only problem if some leave the Crats due to it being 'taken over' by feminazis, sjws, etc. they have no where to go, because the Repub Party is currently going further right on big issues like environment.

I realize that I come off as a Republican/Conservative, but honestly I consider myself an independent.  Truth be told, I even voted for Bill Clinton.  I created this thread in hopes that everyone on here could enjoy a lighthearted look at just how crazy and polar opposite the D's and R's are right now.  I mean, it was a casual Friday and all.

[*Nately120*]

Here is a more entertaining video with the same hashtag.

[SunsetBengal]

Maybe this isn't quite as funny as I first thought. Seems the man is getting 1,000 testimonials per day.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/viral-walk-away-videos-highlight-growing-movement-of-democrats-leaving-the-party_2578446.html

Quote:Meet Brandon Straka, the unlikely liberator and new face of the “silent minority” of Americans who’ve been cast out by family and friends, fired from jobs, and forced into silent social ghettos for their failure to “get it” about how hateful and dangerous Donald Trump is, and why he and all his supporters should be subjected to an ever-expanding social and professional fatwah.
Since Straka published his confessional video on May 26, his life as a New York City hairdresser and aspiring actor has been overtaken by a tidal wave.

While speaking to The Epoch Times about the explosion of his #WalkAway campaign, Straka had to occasionally stop to go style a client’s hair, all while fielding a constant barrage of newcomers’ testimonial letters, videos, and emails—over 1,000 a day.

[hollodero]

(07-03-2018, 11:47 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Maybe this isn't quite as funny as I first thought.  Seems the man is getting 1,000 testimonials per day.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/viral-walk-away-videos-highlight-growing-movement-of-democrats-leaving-the-party_2578446.html

Forced into "silent social ghettos"... this permanent resorting into the victim role is astonishing, especially from those that actually won.

[SunsetBengal]

(07-03-2018, 11:53 AM)hollodero Wrote: Forced into "silent social ghettos"... this permanent resorting into the victim role is astonishing, especially from those that actually won.

Perhaps something like this could result in growth of a viable third party?

[Belsnickel]

(07-03-2018, 11:47 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Maybe this isn't quite as funny as I first thought. Seems the man is getting 1,000 testimonials per day.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/viral-walk-away-videos-highlight-growing-movement-of-democrats-leaving-the-party_2578446.html

I'm doubting that the level being received is entirely genuine. He may be seeing that many, but I would put money down that a good chunk are bots. This isn't to say there aren't people that don't think this way, I'm just doubting the volume, especially the non-video testimonials. Also, I'm curious about the media source. With their German branch being aligned with AfD it makes me wonder where they stand in the US and how that colors their reporting on this issue, especially when reading the language.

The problem I have with this movement, because I've seen it online from the start, is that it doesn't make sense to me. I don't agree with the calls for no-holds-barred resistance, I'm more of a "work within the system" kind of person. I've talked before about seeking to restore the norms and work with conservatives that feel the same way rather than tearing them apart further. But that doesn't mean that I'm going to walk away from liberalism. I still believe that the ideology to which I hold is the right ideology, it is the people that are screwing it up. I get walking away from the people, I don't get saying "I'm no longer going to be a liberal." I don't see validity to this logic, which is another big reason I have a problem with fully believing the volume.

[Belsnickel]

(07-03-2018, 12:01 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Perhaps something like this could result in growth of a viable third party?

Can never happen with our current electoral system.

[SunsetBengal]

(07-03-2018, 12:01 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I'm doubting that the level being received is entirely genuine. He may be seeing that many, but I would put money down that a good chunk are bots. This isn't to say there aren't people that don't think this way, I'm just doubting the volume, especially the non-video testimonials. Also, I'm curious about the media source. With their German branch being aligned with AfD it makes me wonder where they stand in the US and how that colors their reporting on this issue, especially when reading the language.

The problem I have with this movement, because I've seen it online from the start, is that it doesn't make sense to me. I don't agree with the calls for no-holds-barred resistance, I'm more of a "work within the system" kind of person. I've talked before about seeking to restore the norms and work with conservatives that feel the same way rather than tearing them apart further. But that doesn't mean that I'm going to walk away from liberalism. I still believe that the ideology to which I hold is the right ideology, it is the people that are screwing it up. I get walking away from the people, I don't get saying "I'm no longer going to be a liberal." I don't see validity to this logic, which is another big reason I have a problem with fully believing the volume.

I wonder about the sources, as well.  No actual news outlet is reporting anything about it.  Seems like only what I would describe as "fringe" conservative sources commenting about it in a "Ha ha, look at you guys" sort of way, and no mention at all from traditional mainstream outlets.  But, why would they draw any attention to a purported movement that shows decline in their own cause?

So, if there is any merit to this movement, I certainly cannot see them "switching sides" by any means.  If anything, the ranks of the Independent parties will rise.

[Belsnickel]

(07-03-2018, 12:09 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I wonder about the sources, as well.  No actual news outlet is reporting anything about it.  Seems like only what I would describe as "fringe" conservative sources commenting about it in a "Ha ha, look at you guys" sort of way, and no mention at all from traditional mainstream outlets.  But, why would they draw any attention to a purported movement that shows decline in their own cause?

So, if there is any merit to this movement, I certainly cannot see them "switching sides" by any means.  If anything, the ranks of the Independent parties will rise.

See, that's the thing, though. The entire movement is based on the premise of walking away not from the party, necessarily, but from liberalism. This is why I have problems seeing this as legitimately a thing.



I should add that the conservatives I follow online aren't talking about it, either. And I follow a lot of conservatives on Twitter.

[hollodero]

(07-03-2018, 12:01 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Perhaps something like this could result in growth of a viable third party?

That would be awesome, but I think that cannot possibly happen as long as your "winner takes all" voting system is in place.