What will impact be with voters if Trump is forced to take a mug shot?

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(08-24-2023, 05:23 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: I never would have imagined such a thing would be possible.

The obviousness of that statement being understood, it was made to show that Trump is being treated differently than a person of his stature/celebrity normally would.

[CJD]

(08-24-2023, 05:27 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: The obviousness of that statement being understood, it was made to show that Trump is being treated differently than a person of his stature/celebrity normally would.

May this be the beginning of the end of our two tiered justice system. Tear it down, brick by brick. The next time a celebrity gets arrested, I will demand a mug shot for them as well.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(08-24-2023, 05:29 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: May this be the beginning of the end of our two tiered justice system. Tear it down, brick by brick. The next time a celebrity gets arrested, I will demand a mug shot for them as well.

It won't be.

[Luvnit2]

I guess posters missed the OP when I stated Democrats would cheer and Republicans would be the decision for Trump to take a mug shot.

But, my original post was spot on.

No one has answered the question, will independents favor this treatment or see it as further political persecution? If it helps, the majority of independents when polled say Trump is being politically prosecuted already.

Will this make the independents change their mind and applaud Trump being paraded on the internet with a mug shot? Or, will it cause more independents to concur Trump is right, this has been a political prosecution to interfere with the 2024 election.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(08-24-2023, 05:49 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I guess posters missed the OP when I stated Democrats would cheer and Republicans would be the decision for Trump to take a mug shot.

But, my original post was spot on.

No one has answered the question, will independents favor this treatment or see it as further political persecution? If it helps, the majority of independents when polled say Trump is being politically prosecuted already.

Will this make the independents change their mind and applaud Trump being paraded on the internet with a mug shot? Or, will it cause more independents to concur Trump is right, this has been a political prosecution to interfere with the 2024 election.

Trump's mugshot won't be the tipping point for many, if any people.  We're very far along in this whole story, people have generally taken a position by now.

[Dill]

(08-24-2023, 11:20 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: It appears former President Trump one of the most recognized people in the world will be forced to take a mug shot.
I know Democrats will cheer and Republicans will boo.
Is it a good thing for our country?
How will the independents view this staged event by a Democratic city?
Trump has turned the narrative into the majority of citizens already think he is being politically prosecuted. Will this embolden Trump and make him a martyr?
Or will this be harmful to his campaign? Will his approval ratings go up? Down? or stay the same?

Good questions, Luvnit.

For those who value democracy, it will be a good thing for the country to see that we are still, barely, a nation of laws.
I don't think many will see the event as "arranged by a Democratic City" unless prompted by certain news sources.

I expect Trump's approval ratings to go down, but not much before Nov. or Dec., i.e., until after the Georgia trial begins.

It's just a trickle now, but more and more of his base will connect Trump's problems with his own behavior. This is already occurring (and
part of the motivation to get Joe too, playing for a tie).

Right now, for a lot of people who don't follow news closely, this is just a "both sides" he said she said sort of thing. Dems are accusing Trump so it must be "politically motivated." People really "hate" Trump for some reason. Maybe the hair. And most of the news noise on the right buttresses that.

But as the trials go forward and evidence, testimony etc. become dissected in daily news, more people will see a relation between
evidence and charges, which will clarify why they were filed. People will get a sense of the many moving parts of the conspiracy, and
the damage it did to individuals and to trust in government. For more people, alternative narratives will begin to fragment, seem incomplete, or wrong.

E.g., if the trial is televised, people following the trial will get to revisit this phone call to Brad Raffensberger:

“The people of Georgia are angry, the people in the country are angry. And there’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, that you’ve recalculated. . . . All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state."

The public will hear the prosecution argue that at the time of this call: 1) all Georgia authorities positioned to determine whether fraud had occurred had investigated and found none. 2) Trump heard this from the only people actually positioned to know (all under the charge of a Republican), and that despite that 3) Trump's intent was to pressure Raffensberger to "recalculate" to "find votes" to win Georgia for himself regardless of fraud..

And then the public will hear Trump's will lawyers argue that, in his capacity as chief exec, Trump had heard of irregularities in Georgia voting and, taking his responsibility seriously, was only trying to insure that Georgie elections were fraud free. (This is what they are saying on Fox.) 

This time, though, the jury won't be a Republican Senate with a regime party sitting in judgment of their Dear Leader. It will be John Q. Public, following along with 12 men and women who don't depend on supporting Trump for their jobs. 

Some in the public will think "sounds like a 'perfect call' to me, just like the one to Ukraine that triggered the first impeachment." 

I think most independents will say "Don't piss down my leg and tell me its raining." 

[*Nately120*]

(08-24-2023, 05:15 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: I like her. Sounds like my kind of woman. Is she busy on Saturday night? (Normally I'd put a ninja here, but I'm not going to. Wait... I probably should) 

My wife can't stand politics and she's not in on that ***** fest.  Plus she's a teacher so you probably aren't in her league since conservatives are convinced teachers make mad bank.

(08-24-2023, 05:49 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Will this make the independents change their mind and applaud Trump being paraded on the internet with a mug shot? Or, will it cause more independents to concur Trump is right, this has been a political prosecution to interfere with the 2024 election.

There is always the option that people can admit Trump is getting railroaded for this political stuff, BUT he's openly bragged about being a devious law bender and breaker his entire life, so this is fine.  It's like when OJ killed two people and got away with it, but then got that 33 year sentence, later turned to 9 year sentence for armed robbery that everyone knew was excessive, but didn't care because he deserved it for stuff he did before.

Trump has a decades long resume, for good or ill, so a lot of people who aren't too into the political aspect of things may just enjoy seeing an ultra-rich jerk go to prison.  Also, wasn't being under a potential indictment something that soured a lot of independents on Hillary Clinton?  It's just interesting how conservatives wanted Hillary and want Biden under investigation in order to tank their chances at election, meanwhile Trump and his supporters are like "Fourth indictment?  Holy crap, he's gonna win so hard now!!!!!"

[Dill]

(08-24-2023, 05:49 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: No one has answered the question, will independents favor this treatment or see it as further political persecution? If it helps, the majority of independents when polled say Trump is being politically prosecuted already.

Will this make the independents change their mind and applaud Trump being paraded on the internet with a mug shot? Or, will it cause more independents to concur Trump is right, this has been a political prosecution to interfere with the 2024 election.

If you are asking how independents will respond to this one event, I have no idea what it will "cause" them to think. Probably that 
will depend on how much they know about what prompted the criminal charges.

Whatever they think about the politics of the prosecution, many do have some awareness that "the Dems" could not be standing Trump before a police camera if he had not-- 

1) directly called the Georgia Secretary of State to strongarm him into election fraud. and

2) involved leaders of the Georgia GOP in a plot to forge a list of invalid electors as part of a larger coup attempt. 

"Independents," if they are really independents, will not have the kind personal identification with Trump that the MAGA base has. They may sense something vaguely "political" about a Trump mugshot--and shrug. Just more of the drama which PERMANENTLY surrounds Trump--fraud settlements, dalliance with porn stars, impeachments, tax evasion, rape trials, stolen top secret intel about weaknesses in our national defense, lawyers stiffed and fired, a major news organization out 787 million dollars for backing his Big Lie, and of course, an insurrection leading to convictions for hundreds upon hundreds of his followers. At some point, even "independents" may sense a long overdue reckoning has caught up to Trump, and refuse to deflect blame.                       

[Dill]

(08-24-2023, 06:16 PM)Nately120 Wrote: My wife can't stand politics and she's not in on that ***** fest.  Plus she's a teacher so you probably aren't in her league since conservatives are convinced teachers make mad bank.

So your wife is a TEACHER. Does she belong to a union?

Last night I heard those unions are VERY bad!! 

Right up there with "the Biden economy."

[StoneTheCrow]

I’ll refrain from posting the Randy Marsh covered in substance next to the computer meme, but that’s what both MAGA and the left’s reaction will be. Just a prediction.

[*pally*]

To borrow a favorite Trump phrase...that mug shot is straight out of central casting. He looks like someone who should have a mug shot, No air brushing here.

And right now, more people are caught up laughing at the obvious self-reported lie that he is 6'3 and 215lbs. To put that in perspective...Joe Burrow is listed at 6'4" and 215lbs. Trump is more like 6 feet even and closer to 270

[BigPapaKain]

To actually answer one of OP's questions - yes, it is always good for the country when a criminal actually gets prosecuted.

Or does the party of Law and Order suddenly think that Laws don't apply to their Golden Idol?

[*Nately120*]

(08-24-2023, 09:56 PM)pally Wrote: To borrow a favorite Trump phrase...that mug shot is straight out of central casting.  He looks like someone who should have a mug shot,  No air brushing here.

And right now, more people are caught up laughing at the obvious self-reported lie that he is 6'3 and 215lbs.  To put that in perspective...Joe Burrow is listed at 6'4" and 215lbs.  Trump is more like 6 feet even and closer to 270

Trump should have just said he was 215 pounds of twisted steel and sex appeal.  Every man's fright, and every woman's delight.  And so fine....so very fine.

[StoneTheCrow]

(08-24-2023, 10:16 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Trump should have just said he was 215 pounds of twisted steel and sex appeal.  Every man's fright, and every woman's delight.  And so fine....so very fine.

Not sure what you yahoos are talking about. He’s clearly put together like prime Julio Jones.

[Luvnit2]

(08-24-2023, 09:56 PM)pally Wrote: To borrow a favorite Trump phrase...that mug shot is straight out of central casting.  He looks like someone who should have a mug shot,  No air brushing here.

And right now, more people are caught up laughing at the obvious self-reported lie that he is 6'3 and 215lbs.  To put that in perspective...Joe Burrow is listed at 6'4" and 215lbs.  Trump is more like 6 feet even and closer to 270

Funny you mention lies, liberal rag WAPO gives Joe Biden Pinnochios after any talk he had of more than 5 minutes, of course he only works abut 5 hours a week and it hidden away to protect himself from himself. 

Did you see his empathetic speech in Maui? He compared hundreds dead and almost 1000 missing to a small kitchen fire he had at his home. He tells Gold Star families his son died in Iraq. joe Biden also lied about his family taking money from China, he was unaware of Hunter's business dealing in spite of photo's and emails. In spite of Hunter getting a free ride with him on Air Force 2 when Joe was VP to at least 15 countries.

So keep being smug about Trump being persecuted, one thing I learned a long time ago in politics, the boomerang will come back to the Democrats. Just look to Harry Reid changing the rules, then years later the GOP used it against them.

Have you met Trump? I have and I am 6' tall, he is at least 6'2" tall and we I met him in 2016, he was not severely over weight.

By the wall, when he walks into the room, he commands it. Joe Biden walks into a room and 15 seconds later is not sure where he is or he takes a nap in Maui due to his heavy workload (vacation most of August).

Have you ever lied on your DL about your weight and height? 

[*Nately120*]

Trump commands a booking station in a way Biden hasn't.

[Luvnit2]

(08-24-2023, 10:27 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Trump commands a booking station in a way Biden hasn't.

Trump just posted on "X" for first time since 2021.

He posted his mug shot
Under it

ELECTION INTERFERENCE
NEVER SURRENDER!
DONALDJTRUMP.COM

It is a simple message, if any citizen fights the government and the justice department, you are next!

I can see him making hundreds of millions of dollars with this mug shirt and slogan. The liberals will buy his merchandise as he is the only one permitted to produce marketing materials from this mugshot.

[Luvnit2]

(08-24-2023, 10:27 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Trump commands a booking station in a way Biden hasn't.

Not yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[*pally*]

(08-24-2023, 10:24 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Funny you mention lies, liberal rag WAPO gives Joe Biden Pinnochios after any talk he had of more than 5 minutes, of course he only works abut 5 hours a week and it hidden away to protect himself from himself. 

Did you see his empathetic speech in Maui? He compared hundreds dead and almost 1000 missing to a small kitchen fire he had at his home. He tells Gold Star families his son died in Iraq. joe Biden also lied about his family taking money from China, he was unaware of Hunter's business dealing in spite of photo's and emails. In spite of Hunter getting a free ride with him on Air Force 2 when Joe was VP to at least 15 countries.

So keep being smug about Trump being persecuted, one thing I learned a long time ago in politics, the boomerang will come back to the Democrats. Just look to Harry Reid changing the rules, then years later the GOP used it against them.

Have you met Trump? I have and I am 6' tall, he is at least 6'2" tall and we I met him in 2016, he was not severely over weight.

By the wall, when he walks into the room, he commands it. Joe Biden walks into a room and 15 seconds later is not sure where he is or he takes a nap in Maui due to his heavy workload (vacation most of August).

Have you ever lied on your DL about your weight and height? 

why are you talking about Joe Biden.  This thread...that you started...is about Trump's mug shot and what effect it might have on the public.

[Arturo Bandini]

(08-24-2023, 10:24 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Funny you mention lies, liberal rag WAPO gives Joe Biden Pinnochios after any talk he had of more than 5 minutes, of course he only works abut 5 hours a week and it hidden away to protect himself from himself. 

Did you see his empathetic speech in Maui? He compared hundreds dead and almost 1000 missing to a small kitchen fire he had at his home. He tells Gold Star families his son died in Iraq. joe Biden also lied about his family taking money from China, he was unaware of Hunter's business dealing in spite of photo's and emails. In spite of Hunter getting a free ride with him on Air Force 2 when Joe was VP to at least 15 countries.

So keep being smug about Trump being persecuted, one thing I learned a long time ago in politics, the boomerang will come back to the Democrats. Just look to Harry Reid changing the rules, then years later the GOP used it against them.

Have you met Trump? I have and I am 6' tall, he is at least 6'2" tall and we I met him in 2016, he was not severely over weight.

By the wall, when he walks into the room, he commands it. Joe Biden walks into a room and 15 seconds later is not sure where he is or he takes a nap in Maui due to his heavy workload (vacation most of August).

Have you ever lied on your DL about your weight and height? 

He commands the room ? Dude has been ruled by almost everybody. Getting his election rigged under his own control with the most powerful job in the world. 
Even the people and judges he appointed himself are working against him. 

Complete tool.