Israel/Hamas War Superthread

[GMDino]

(04-28-2024, 05:33 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Eh, just highly skeptical of how and when these dudes show up and then disappear from the news cycle entirely for months.  I guess this is one of the areas where I'm more cynical than you.  I am aware of similar things done here, obviously not on the same scale, so please forgive my indulging in this.  It wasn't that long ago that espousing the lab leak theory for Covid was considered a tin foil hate conspiracy.

You're response wasn't just "skeptical" it was full conspiracy theory.

I don't know if you were pushing the lab leak for Covid or not, but that's still a helluva stretch to get to this being a false flag.

[Dill]

(04-28-2024, 03:41 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Yes, this march was fake.  

Why would the government want to draw attention to the "number one threat in the US, white supremacy" during all these campus protests?  Give it a think and see what you can come up with.

Gave it a think. 

Tried to imagine scores of Feds getting orders and coordinating to imitate white supremacists to, what, help Biden?
Or pro-Palestine protests? Without alarming Republican feds? 

Closest I could come was imagining right wing feds joining such a group and marching off duty.
Maybe military and local law enforcement in the group too.

Wouldn't the local police have to be in on it? They arrested some and removed their hoods.
No one can get their names?
https://www.newsweek.com/white-supremacist-patriot-front-marches-through-city-videos-1894937

Opps, nevermind. the first video was from another event in Idaho.

But if you look at the accompanying Twitter video, there are definitely some bellies.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(04-28-2024, 06:27 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I just don't tolerate conspiracy theories all that well. I know the way things spread around Washington; I know way too many staffers and bureaucrats in DC and have heard far too many things. Something at the level you are suggesting for Patriot Front to be a false flag operation would require way more people to be read in than would be critical mass for it to be contained. Really, when you think about it, my disbelief in conspiracy theories really boils down to my cynicism towards our government. I just don't believe them capable of pulling something like that off and keeping it quiet.

I can't really argue with this position in general.  What I can say is that I did not come to be skeptical of this group overnight.  Why do they appear out of nowhere and then disappear, both from the site of their protest but also the news cycle?  When a fair number of them were arrested in Idaho I noticed, and I believe I pointed this out here, that they were all sitting in cuffs with their masks still on.  With one exception, who was up against a patrol car.  Literally the first thing I'm doing if I arrest someone with a mask on, after they are secured, is removing their mask.  There were booking photos released, and then, again, it completely dropped off the radar.  With as much as the media loves to report on white supremacists why do they become such a non-story so quickly?  I don't know, man, it's just really odd to me.

I can tell you first hand that I get accused of making up the pre-booking diversion program in LA County by people who refuse to believe criminals can commit crime and not even be booked.  No booking means no public record.  It's entirely done in house.  And I doubt you'd be surprised how much those numbers get manipulated.  I'm also aware from friends in probation and parole how much they are not allowed to do their job, but publicly the government reports no difference in how either functions.  I'm just been privy to too much first hand knowledge of the government flat out lying to people to trust them at all anymore.

Sad state of affairs to be sure. Regardless it's not the topic of the thread, so I'll leave it at that.

[StoneTheCrow]

(04-27-2024, 10:40 AM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: I’ve seen outlets refer to him as a leader of the protest.
https://www.newsweek.com/who-khymani-james-columbia-protest-organizers-remarks-spark-fury-1894488

She apparently has status enough to lead a presser.

Rewatched the Wednesday presser Khymani James led.

He bragged that he is “very intentional” about framing his messages, defending the use of “river to the sea” and “globalize the intifada” chants.

Two days later he tries to say he “misspoke” about killing Jews, gets expelled. pic.twitter.com/OFXG8o0Xuy

— Brent Scher (@BrentScher) April 27, 2024

They also had an audience with a sitting US senator.

Ilhan Omar shaking hands with Khymani James, who openly stated “Zionists don’t deserve to live.” Her daughter then hugs him. https://t.co/FUB63XHo1X

— Kassy Akiva (@KassyDillon) April 26, 2024

There goes the right, ***noticing*** shit. Seizing, pouncing, etc.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/29/gaza-college-campus-protests-republicans-attack-biden-chaos/

They did the thing.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(Yesterday, 10:25 AM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/29/gaza-college-campus-protests-republicans-attack-biden-chaos/

They did the thing.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Here's an archived version for those who can't bypass the paywall.

https://archive.ph/KM2mn

[GMDino]

(Yesterday, 10:25 AM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/29/gaza-college-campus-protests-republicans-attack-biden-chaos/

They did the thing.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'd just like to point out that Soros must be slacking as not all those tents are the same. 

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 10:39 AM)GMDino Wrote: I'd just like to point out that Soros must be slacking as not all those tents are the same. 

Your attempt to deflect once again fails. Why do you support protestors calling for Jews to be killed and eliminated from the face of the earth. 

Are you Omar's brother/Husband? 

[GMDino]

(Yesterday, 11:04 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Your attempt to deflect once again fails. Why do you support protestors calling for Jews to be killed and eliminated from the face of the earth. 

Are you Omar's brother/Husband? 

I do not support protestors calling for Jews to be killed and eliminated from the face of the earth. If you can find a single post where I cheered them or or said they were right please share it.

Please learn how to take a joke about the conspiracy theories behind some of these protests.

Are you Netanyahu?  

[StoneTheCrow]

(Yesterday, 10:39 AM)GMDino Wrote: I'd just like to point out that Soros must be slacking as not all those tents are the same. 

You know it’s STANKY over there.

[Belsnickel]

(Yesterday, 11:36 AM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: You know it’s STANKY over there.

I mean, tent living in general is. I have lived in tents for a varied number of days, from two day to nine weeks. It is never pleasant smelling.

[GMDino]

(Yesterday, 11:36 AM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: You know it’s STANKY over there.

I graduated college over 30 years ago.  We didn't have AC units in dorms built 30 years before that.  It was stanky THEN!  I can't imagine what this kind of encampment is like hygiene wise.

I wonder if that plays against the stereotype of the protestors this time? 

[StoneTheCrow]

(Yesterday, 11:41 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: I mean, tent living in general is. I have lived in tents for a varied number of days, from two day to nine weeks. It is never pleasant smelling.

I tent camp for 2-3 nights usually at some land we have a few times a year. The shower upon return to civilization is top shelf. 9 weeks, hope you were putting the baby wipes to use.