(06-27-2025, 02:46 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: [ -> ]We are all handling the situation by drinking bourbon. Come join us.
I don't drink, but I do sniff glue if you're buying.
(06-27-2025, 02:49 PM)Nately120 Wrote: [ -> ]I don't drink, but I do sniff glue if you're buying.
Must be a Pennsylvania thing.
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(06-27-2025, 02:31 PM)Nately120 Wrote: [ -> ]I'm going to assume there is no new news on Trey based on this stuff here.
This is what happens when there's nothing going on lol
(06-27-2025, 02:06 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: [ -> ]No offense, but you come off just as bad as the people that got in "your bourbon market". The gatekeeping is lame.
I didn't give bourbon the time of day until COVID hit and my sister gave me a bottle of Weller Antique for my birthday. Now I love it. Sue me.
Yes, BT is good at marketing and there is a lot of hype around their products, but they produce some damn good bourbon. Are we going to sit here and act like Stagg, ER, EHT, the antique collection, etc. aren't some of the better bourbons you can purchase? Even if it wasn't allocated, I'd be drinking ER as my daily driver.
I love KC 12, Rare Breed, OF 1920, RR 10 year, etc. as much as the next guy...but if people wan't to wait in line to purchase their ER because it's a novelty for them and they like it, then let them. You just come off as having sour grapes because you can't get any.
I'm not "Gatekeeping" anything, I don't even have a gate. I lived in Lawrenceburg (home of Wild Turkey and 4 Roses) for 22 years, and work about 2 blocks from BT distillery in Frankfort. I have enough friends working at the distilleries that if I really wanted it, I could get it. Yes, BT makes damn fine bourbon, and when I find ER or EH Taylor for retail at the liquor store I buy it (I do not like Weller except for the 12 year) As for people who stand in line to buy it because they like it, that doesn't bother me at all. It's the people who buy in and immediately try to flip it for 3 times what they paid for it before they even drive off that I dislike. They're basically nothing but another form of ticket scalper. Meanwhile, Old Forester Statesman, Michters Small Batch, 4 Roses and Noah's Mill are my go to's.
(06-27-2025, 02:31 PM)Nately120 Wrote: [ -> ]I'm going to assume there is no new news on Trey based on this stuff here.
Nope, if there was, we would be discussing it. Just passing the time....
(06-27-2025, 01:57 PM)ClarkHarris4Prez Wrote: [ -> ]What he said! Reading grown men brag about how they can afford expensive bourbon is not what I expected on a Bengals message board. But we are Bengals fans so it's not at all surprising that many of us might have a vice or two, but who's keeping score!? Self loathing is part of the Bengals fan experience!
Gotta love the false narrative you create....I.i dont even know the price of a bottle..our golf buddy owns a distributorship and has brought the booze for our golf games for over a decade ..but let me respond in a way that wont inflame you...see ya ...time for golf and some booze..with ice
The bourbon craze today is similar to where the craft beer market was about 10-15 years ago. People standing in line for rare releases, spending extra money on bottles that were deliberately held back to create an artificial scarcity, and having random tasting parties with friends to show off our latest find. It was a nice hobby for me back then but isnt much of an interest for me today.
So I don't see myself getting into the bourbon craze anytime soon. But you do you. If you enjoy it, ain't nothin wrong with that. Ill just be an outside spectator watching it from afar.
(06-27-2025, 02:06 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: [ -> ]No offense, but you come off just as bad as the people that got in "your bourbon market". The gatekeeping is lame.
I didn't give bourbon the time of day until COVID hit and my sister gave me a bottle of Weller Antique for my birthday. Now I love it. Sue me.
Yes, BT is good at marketing and there is a lot of hype around their products, but they produce some damn good bourbon. Are we going to sit here and act like Stagg, ER, EHT, the antique collection, etc. aren't some of the better bourbons you can purchase? Even if it wasn't allocated, I'd be drinking ER as my daily driver.
I love KC 12, Rare Breed, OF 1920, RR 10 year, etc. as much as the next guy...but if people wan't to wait in line to purchase their ER because it's a novelty for them and they like it, then let them. You just come off as having sour grapes because you can't get any.
Buffalo Trace appeals to the noobs, the taters, and a certain segment because it has a very sweet profile, and depending on the mashbill red fruit or grape notes. It appeals to the collectors and flippers due to perceived demand. That said, IMO BT is good but overrated, and mashbill 1 is the best thing they do. The Weller line other than WLW historically was a value line, aka not too different than what the Benchmark series is now. All the Wellers other than the 12 are usually 6-8 years old; if you get a store pick you can email the lazer code in and get a readout on the age/ barrel, etc. Mashbill 2 (the Blanton’s/Hancock/ETL/Rock Hill Farms is just kind of sweet and that’s about it. Regular Blanton’s has steadily decreased in age, and increased in price. The only bottle on that side worth the hype is Straight from the Barrel, but you have to like heat.
George T Stagg and William Larue Weller are consistently amazing, and consistently surpass any of the Pappy line in a given year. Buy Pappy if you want to flip or have perceived status symbols, buy GTS and WLW if you want to drink the product. Usually have to build store relationships, win lotteries/raffles, or just plain get lucky to get the BTAC or Pappy if you don’t want to feed the secondary market though; it’s hard. Past those two, Stagg Jr. can be great depending on the batch, as can EHT Barrel Proof. Eagle Rare and EHT single barrels are consistently good too, the EHT ryes, not so much. Trace rant over.
For the record I’m a Wild Turkey, Old Forester, and Jack Daniel’s man primarily, but have something from just about everyone, and also really like New Riff. JD has been absolutely killing it over the past 5 years, and this year’s 14 is the leader in the clubhouse for whiskey of the year. The shelfer barrel proof ryes and bourbons (TN whiskey is still bourbon) are among the Best Buy’s at any store. Wild Turkey has been killing it too, but Campari has been price gouging on premium offerings. Old Forester has also been on a good run, and the 1910 is one of the best shelfers out there.
Ben Holladay out of Missouri is an up and comer; their products are priced fairly and the juice is consistently good.
(06-28-2025, 11:21 AM)t3r3e3 Wrote: [ -> ]Buffalo Trace appeals to the noobs, the taters, and a certain segment because it has a very sweet profile, and depending on the mashbill red fruit or grape notes. It appeals to the collectors and flippers due to perceived demand. That said, IMO BT is good but overrated, and mashbill 1 is the best thing they do. The Weller line other than WLW historically was a value line, aka not too different than what the Benchmark series is now. All the Wellers other than the 12 are usually 6-8 years old; if you get a store pick you can email the lazer code in and get a readout on the age/ barrel, etc. Mashbill 2 (the Blanton’s/Hancock/ETL/Rock Hill Farms is just kind of sweet and that’s about it. Regular Blanton’s has steadily decreased in age, and increased in price. The only bottle on that side worth the hype is Straight from the Barrel, but you have to like heat.
George T Stagg and William Larue Weller are consistently amazing, and consistently surpass any of the Pappy line in a given year. Buy Pappy if you want to flip or have perceived status symbols, buy GTS and WLW if you want to drink the product. Usually have to build store relationships, win lotteries/raffles, or just plain get lucky to get the BTAC or Pappy if you don’t want to feed the secondary market though; it’s hard. Past those two, Stagg Jr. can be great depending on the batch, as can EHT Barrel Proof. Eagle Rare and EHT single barrels are consistently good too, the EHT ryes, not so much. Trace rant over.
For the record I’m a Wild Turkey, Old Forester, and Jack Daniel’s man primarily, but have something from just about everyone, and also really like New Riff. JD has been absolutely killing it over the past 5 years, and this year’s 14 is the leader in the clubhouse for whiskey of the year. The shelfer barrel proof ryes and bourbons (TN whiskey is still bourbon) are among the Best Buy’s at any store. Wild Turkey has been killing it too, but Campari has been price gouging on premium offerings. Old Forester has also been on a good run, and the 1910 is one of the best shelfers out there.
Ben Holladay out of Missouri is an up and comer; their products are priced fairly and the juice is consistently good.
What does this have to do with a Trey update? I get it, many have been driven to drink, but truth be told most of them did not need another excuse.
(06-28-2025, 12:27 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: [ -> ]What does this have to do with a Trey update? I get it, many have been driven to drink, but truth be told most of them did not need another excuse.
Absolutely nothing, same as Katie’s recent effort to sign Trey to a competitive offer. We’re talking bourbon because contract particulars have flatlined. Bengals current offer compared to recent offer trends is lower than whaleshit…
I know one shouldn’t have anything to do with the other. but with the stadium lease done, could we see Trey get done now? The biggest priority for the franchise the last few weeks was the stadium deal.
(06-28-2025, 11:21 AM)t3r3e3 Wrote: [ -> ]Buffalo Trace appeals to the noobs, the taters, and a certain segment because it has a very sweet profile, and depending on the mashbill red fruit or grape notes. It appeals to the collectors and flippers due to perceived demand. That said, IMO BT is good but overrated, and mashbill 1 is the best thing they do. The Weller line other than WLW historically was a value line, aka not too different than what the Benchmark series is now. All the Wellers other than the 12 are usually 6-8 years old; if you get a store pick you can email the lazer code in and get a readout on the age/ barrel, etc. Mashbill 2 (the Blanton’s/Hancock/ETL/Rock Hill Farms is just kind of sweet and that’s about it. Regular Blanton’s has steadily decreased in age, and increased in price. The only bottle on that side worth the hype is Straight from the Barrel, but you have to like heat.
George T Stagg and William Larue Weller are consistently amazing, and consistently surpass any of the Pappy line in a given year. Buy Pappy if you want to flip or have perceived status symbols, buy GTS and WLW if you want to drink the product. Usually have to build store relationships, win lotteries/raffles, or just plain get lucky to get the BTAC or Pappy if you don’t want to feed the secondary market though; it’s hard. Past those two, Stagg Jr. can be great depending on the batch, as can EHT Barrel Proof. Eagle Rare and EHT single barrels are consistently good too, the EHT ryes, not so much. Trace rant over.
For the record I’m a Wild Turkey, Old Forester, and Jack Daniel’s man primarily, but have something from just about everyone, and also really like New Riff. JD has been absolutely killing it over the past 5 years, and this year’s 14 is the leader in the clubhouse for whiskey of the year. The shelfer barrel proof ryes and bourbons (TN whiskey is still bourbon) are among the Best Buy’s at any store. Wild Turkey has been killing it too, but Campari has been price gouging on premium offerings. Old Forester has also been on a good run, and the 1910 is one of the best shelfers out there.
Ben Holladay out of Missouri is an up and comer; their products are priced fairly and the juice is consistently good.
Uh, Jack Daniels is definitely not bourbon. It is Sour Mash Whiskey
(06-29-2025, 10:43 PM)Sled21 Wrote: [ -> ]Uh, Jack Daniels is definitely not bourbon. It is Sour Mash Whiskey
It’s made in America
It’s aged in new white oak barrels
The mashbill is at least 51% corn
It’s goes into the barrel at no higher than 125 proof
Nothing is added to the distillate but water
Jack meets all bourbon requirements, the only thing that is different is filtering the distillate through a bed of sugar maple charcoal, aka the Lincoln County Process. Chris Fletcher (the master distiller at JD) has stated plenty of times they meet all the requirements to be called a bourbon, but market as Tennessee Whiskey because it’s a designation unique to Tennessee. Almost all bourbon whiskey, and almost all the legacy distillers use sour mash. Only a select few use the sweet mash process.
I wonder if Jacky van wellerinkle, I mean Trey, will show up to camp.
(06-27-2025, 04:05 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: [ -> ]Gotta love the false narrative you create....I.i dont even know the price of a bottle..our golf buddy owns a distributorship and has brought the booze for our golf games for over a decade ..but let me respond in a way that wont inflame you...see ya ...time for golf and some booze..with ice
Oh damn, that's nice.
So your buddy must get it for MSRP or close to it.
It can go for $1000+ on the secondary market for a single bottle.
PVW is only released once a year (November), so it's very rare to get a hold of near MSRP.
(06-30-2025, 08:58 AM)ochocincos Wrote: [ -> ]Oh damn, that's nice.
So your buddy must get it for MSRP or close to it.
It can go for $1000+ on the secondary market for a single bottle.
PVW is only released once a year (November), so it's very rare to get a hold of near MSRP.
I just think it's cool that he assumes "his friend" will bring an expensive bourbon to the ole golf outing...and share it with everyone, every day.
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