Worse is Swept in Cincinnati 4th of July Weekend. Over 100 thousand fans were treated to some of the worst baseball ever played. Shame on the Reds for letting that many 4th of July weekend fans down like that. Few fans actually live in Cincinnati, and the majority of Reds crowds drive an hour or more to get to Cincinnati.

So OK, they won in New York, but they let the Cincinnati paying customers down in a big way this 4th weekend.

I don't even want to hear play-offs. This team is NOT a play-off team. Should they be adding players at trade deadline, NO. They are not a play-off team. If anything they should be dumping some payroll at trade deadline.

Reds made money over 4th of July weekend, as they did over Memorial Day weekend. So money was made for 2025 going forward. However there are some who went out of their way to spend the 4th of July weekend at Reds, and they will be in no big hurry to come back. The fans that drive from the middle of Ohio, or the middle of Kentucky or the middle of Indiana will question a return trip to Reds, and spend their holiday time doing other things. That was some of the worst baseball ever this weekend by the Reds.

This is NOT a play-off team, we can just forget about that in 2024. Some of these players like Marte, I hope they aren't long contracts. Reds added some real losers this off season, and I can see why their other teams let them go. Some of these could be traded in July if anybody wants them. That would make their stay in Cincinnati only a few months, which the way this team is playing would be a good thing.

(07-07-2024, 05:22 PM)kevin Wrote: Worse is Swept in Cincinnati 4th of July Weekend.  Over 100 thousand fans were treated to some of the worst baseball ever played.  Shame on the Reds for letting that many 4th of July weekend fans down like that.  Few fans actually live in Cincinnati, and the majority of Reds crowds drive an hour or more to get to Cincinnati.  

So OK, they won in New York, but they let the Cincinnati paying customers down in a big way this 4th weekend.

I don't even want to hear play-offs.  This team is NOT a play-off team.  Should they be adding players at trade deadline, NO.  They are not a play-off team. If anything they should be dumping some payroll at trade deadline.  

Reds made money over 4th of July weekend, as they did over Memorial Day weekend.  So money was made for 2025 going forward.  However there are some who went out of their way to spend the 4th of July weekend at Reds, and they will be in no big hurry to come back.  The fans that drive from the middle of Ohio, or the middle of Kentucky or the middle of Indiana will question a return trip to Reds, and spend their holiday time doing other things.  That was some of the worst baseball ever this weekend by the Reds.  

This is NOT a play-off team, we can just forget about that in 2024.  Some of these players like Marte, I hope they aren't long contracts. Reds added some real losers this off season, and I can see why their other teams let them go.  Some of these could be traded in July if anybody wants them.  That would make their stay in Cincinnati only a few months, which the way this team is playing would be a good thing.

Is there anyone else left, that has dreams of this team making the playoffs? I don’t think so.
What an awful performance against one of the worst teams in MLB. A couple more weeks of playing like this, and we will be classified as one of the worst teams in MLB. Way to go Reds organization. You have successfully turned the first professional baseball team into a consistent loser.

No playoff series wins since 1995, 29 years and counting. When do we hit bottom and start rising to the top. There is something basically wrong, with this organization, When we can’t turn this around in 29 years.

(07-07-2024, 06:12 PM)Timanky12 Wrote: No playoff series wins since 1995, 29 years and counting.

Longest playoff advancement drought among the 4 major professional sports.

I would say put Steer back at third but that would make their weak outfield even weaker.
India played third until they forced him to play 2B to get him on the field.
Send Marte back down. You have more than enough reason to do so.

So, am i the only one who doesn't give one flying **** about how much the Reds made this weekend or any series?

Unless, i guess, we're saying that the fans are there and this organization is just a full diaper worth of competency. 

EDLC is officially on the all star team!

(07-07-2024, 06:01 PM)Timanky12 Wrote: Is there anyone else left, that has dreams of this team making the playoffs?

Me.

I watch every Reds game plus a few hundred other MLB games every year. I've seen too many collapses and too many winning streaks to be a quitter in the first week of July.

(07-07-2024, 07:19 PM)Forever Spinning Vinyl Wrote: Me.

I watch every Reds game plus a few hundred other MLB games every year. I've seen too many collapses and too many winning streaks to be a quitter in the first week of July.

Well excuse me, there is still one die hard fan left. Good luck with those playoff hopes.

(07-07-2024, 06:44 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Longest playoff advancement drought among the 4 major professional sports.

Glad they could step up
and bring that title back to Cincinnati.

(07-07-2024, 08:02 PM)Timanky12 Wrote: Well excuse me, there is still one die hard fan left. Good luck with those playoff hopes.

I really don't understand why you keep posting here when all you can do is be negative about it. It's very clear it's not in your nature to be positive when they do win like sweeping the Yankees. You're just nowhere to be found. We get you hate this team since you repeat the same negative crap over and over. Just do us all a favor and not post here anymore.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/40517598/short-handed-cincinnati-reds-land-outfielder-austin-slater

(07-07-2024, 06:48 PM)Forever Spinning Vinyl Wrote: I would say put Steer back at third but that would make their weak outfield even weaker.
India played third until they forced him to play 2B to get him on the field.
Send Marte back down. You have more than enough reason to do so.

Yes

I was all stoked his first game back!! 3 hits, 3 runs, RBI and since then: 3 total hits, 14 strike outs, .150 batting average. Granted it's a very small sample size but add in his abysmal fielding at 3B and he needs a stint in AAA to get his head back on straight. 

Am I remembering correctly? Wasn't he playing 3rd fairly well last year?

We've got 7 games at home vs. two of the worst teams in the league. If they expect to be playing any kind of playoff challenging baseball post AS break they badly need to take charge NOW. Take at least 6 of these games Reds.

(07-08-2024, 10:10 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: We've got 7 games at home vs. two of the worst teams in the league. If they expect to be playing any kind of playoff challenging baseball post AS break they badly need to take charge NOW. Take at least 6 of these games Reds.

and if they do not, do they become trade deadline sellers where they trade off a guy like India?

(07-08-2024, 10:21 AM)TecmoBengals Wrote: and if they do not, do they become trade deadline sellers where they trade off a guy like India?

Are we going into rebuild #4 (or is it #5?) since 2015? Because they still control India for 2 more years after this year, including just $5m for next year. Can't think of why else you would trade one of the few guys you have that you know is at minimum a major league everyday starter?

(07-08-2024, 10:33 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Are we going into rebuild #4 (or is it #5?) since 2015? Because they still control India for 2 more years after this year, including just $5m for next year. Can't think of why else you would trade one of the few guys you have that you know is at minimum a major league everyday starter?

I have no idea either but the Reds recently said they still don't know their plans for the deadline: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/07/reds-trade-rumors-deadline-buyers-sellers-jonathan-india.html

India and Montas are the two players that get mentioned as trade candidates.

If they don't know their plans then I suppose it is possible they become sellers at the deadline.

(07-08-2024, 11:08 AM)TecmoBengals Wrote: I have no idea either but the Reds recently said they still don't know their plans for the deadline: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/07/reds-trade-rumors-deadline-buyers-sellers-jonathan-india.html

India and Montas are the two players that get mentioned as trade candidates.

If they don't know their plans then I suppose it is possible they become sellers at the deadline.

Montas would probably just be good business. He's going to be a 32-year-old FA after this year after the Reds inevitably decline his $20m mutual option for 2025. So you're just trading 0.5 years of control of a decently expensive ($14m this year) guy. Not sure how much you're going to get for him, unless he has a couple good starts before the deadline or you're willing to eat some of the 2024 $.

India is in the same category as Stephenson. You have them for 2.5 years, so unless you're committing to a whole new rebuild, there's no point in worsening your 2025 roster.

If they become sellers at the deadline, names that make sense to trade even if you're not rebuilding again....
Frankie Montas
Brent Suter
Buck Farmer
Lucas Sims
(If some team gets a C injury and want a glove-first backup C, and he comes off the IL, maybe Luke Maile.)

All guys in their 30s who will be FAs next year and aren't going to be part of the Reds 2025 or 2026 plans.

Every time it feels like we turned a corner, we go and lay an egg against a bad team.

This year's Reds team just isn't good enough. They have sky high potential (which is how they go about sweeping teams like the Yankees and Dodgers), but they are insanely inconsistent.

It's not surprising for a young team, but I've been really disappointed with how some second year (or "second and a half" year) players have performed this year. Particularly Marte and Benson.

It's a smaller sample size for Marte and he is hopefully just shaking the rust off, but he has been absolutely dreadful. Both on offense and defense. Last night, he should have ended the 8th inning, but his error on a routine grounder allowed the Tigers another chance, which resulted in a 2 run homerun to put the game out of reach (for this offense).

It makes me wonder if maybe the PEDs had more to do with his success than we realize.

And I don't even know what the hell happened to Benson. He already has more strikeouts than he did all last season and he is batting a pitiful .189/.275/.369/.644.
His line last year was .275/.365/.498/.863

I'm glad the Reds traded for an outfielder. He'll be an improvement over whoever he's replacing. But going into the season without signing a solid right handed hitting outfielder was this team's biggest mistake. And they're wasting an all star year (and a year of control) of Elly for no real reason.

We have suffered a lot of injuries too, which never helps. Friedl being out for most of the year, McLain being out, CES playing injured and then shutting it down early on, Marte being suspended and then not the same when back. And now, even the replacement of our replacements, Martini, is out.

Not many teams can sustain having 4 of their projected starters out from very early in the season. And it hurts us even more because of our lack of quality depth and penny pinching refusal to sign guys, even near the end of spring training when our needs were clear and there were players available.

It's been a frustrating season.

At least the draft is this coming weekend and we get to see if we get Travis Bazzana, Charlie Condon or if our front office made a mistake and drafted someone other than one of those two.