(08-21-2024, 03:47 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: Austin Elmore
@autyelmore
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@Local12Skinny
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that he’s heard Ja’Marr Chase and his camp are looking for a 4-year deal in the $160 million range, with $120-ish million guaranteed from the #Bengals.

#Vikings WR Justin Jefferson got $110 million guaranteed in his extension.
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espn....

That sounds unrealistic, I am sure Ja'Marr would be just fine with what JJ got no problem and I bet he isn't asking for more as he is 
not better than JJ right now. He will be I think though which is why if we have to pay about what JJ got, we should think about it IMO.

when looking at total cap commitments, the reported ja'marr chase contract request would barely eclipse justin jefferson's total deal.

when looking at the actual aav in terms of money chase hasn't already collected, it would not eclipse jefferson.https://t.co/5PQvnlICGe

— John Sheeran (@John__Sheeran) August 21, 2024

I'm starting to think that the FO is going to sign Tee and trade Chase in the offseason.

So watch the Bengals sign Chase with in the next week.

(08-21-2024, 06:16 PM)bfine32 Wrote: And the others didn't get paid after year 3. 

And given that the Bengals have him for two more years and then could use the franchise tag, I don't see what Chase's bargaining chip is right now. He's not going to play and give up millions for multiple years? I see the value for him getting a deal; I don't see the pressure on the Bengals to drive up a Brink's truck at this particular moment in time.

I think a lot of people are worrying about nothing..I think ..ultimately..chase will be a Bengal for a long time to come

(08-21-2024, 05:40 PM)Bengalitis Wrote: I been wanting to go to Cincy to go watch my first "home" game ever.. but with the contracts goign up every year and prices for tix ridiculously high, I think I will forever just be a "tv" fan for life.

Have you tried demanding a massive pay increase from your employer?

Would another team happily pay that contract in free agency?

Then that's his worth.

Which makes this discussion simple. He's worth it and we want him to play for the Bengals.

Easy.

— Goodberry (@JoeGoodberry) August 21, 2024

So it’s the same deal.

Jefferson’s total was 5/157 with new money
Chase would be 6/190

That’s the same AAV/Cap

It’s just 1 year longer.

110 GTD / 5 Years = 22m AVGT
120 GTD / 6 Years = 20m AVGT

Chase would be cheaper per cap dollar. https://t.co/POC5dJIsiI

— Santori Miles (@Cincy_Suave2) August 21, 2024

If you don't want to pay Ja'Marr Chase top of market money idk what you're even doing here tbh

Gotta get over the shock of the sticker price on the new money and pay a single one of your non-Burrow elite draft picks

Edit to clarify: directed at some comments I've seen on here,…

— Jake Liscow (@JakeLiscow) August 21, 2024

Idc how much he wants

Were out of contender talk without him

(08-21-2024, 06:27 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: espn....

That sounds unrealistic, I am sure Ja'Marr would be just fine with what JJ got no problem and I bet he isn't asking for more as he is 
not better than JJ right now. He will be I think though which is why if we have to pay about what JJ got, we should think about it IMO.

Ja'Marr shouldnt get what Jefferson got because he is not as good as Jefferson.  40 million a year? Absolutely ridiculous.   If that's what he is demanding while sitting out, trade him.

(08-21-2024, 10:15 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

Would another team happily pay that contract in free agency?

Then that's his worth.

Which makes this discussion simple. He's worth it and we want him to play for the Bengals.

Easy.

— Goodberry (@JoeGoodberry) August 21, 2024

So it’s the same deal.

Jefferson’s total was 5/157 with new money
Chase would be 6/190

That’s the same AAV/Cap

It’s just 1 year longer.

110 GTD / 5 Years = 22m AVGT
120 GTD / 6 Years = 20m AVGT

Chase would be cheaper per cap dollar. https://t.co/POC5dJIsiI

— Santori Miles (@Cincy_Suave2) August 21, 2024

If you don't want to pay Ja'Marr Chase top of market money idk what you're even doing here tbh

Gotta get over the shock of the sticker price on the new money and pay a single one of your non-Burrow elite draft picks

Edit to clarify: directed at some comments I've seen on here,…

— Jake Liscow (@JakeLiscow) August 21, 2024

Those dudes sound like idiots. Chase still has 2 years remaining on his original contract.

Minny didn't do it for Jefferson

Dallas didn't do it for Lamb

Miami isn't doing it for Waddle

But for some reason the Bengals should pay Chase after year 3. 

(08-21-2024, 11:33 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Those dudes sound like idiots. Chase still has 2 years remaining on his original contract.

Minny didn't do it for Jefferson

Dallas didn't do it for Lamb

Miami isn't doing it for Waddle

But for some reason the Bengals should pay Chase after year 3. 

Jaylen Waddle signed back in early June I think. Out of Ja'Marr Chase's draft class he is the only first round receiver not signed to a second contract. (Chase, Waddle, Smith, Toney, Bateman)

(08-22-2024, 12:04 AM)Synric Wrote: Jaylen Waddle signed back in early June I think. Out of Ja'Marr Chase's draft class he is the only first round receiver not signed to a second contract. (Chase, Waddle, Smith, Toney, Bateman)

Well would you look at that. I knew Devonta had signed but not about Waddle. I was 2 for 3 on my post, 

(08-22-2024, 12:04 AM)Synric Wrote: Jaylen Waddle signed back in early June I think. Out of Ja'Marr Chase's draft class he is the only first round receiver not signed to a second contract. (Chase, Waddle, Smith, Toney, Bateman)

Correct.

In his first offseason of extension eligibility, Jaylen Waddle signed a 3 year, $84.75M extension with the Miami Dolphins that keeps him under contract through 2028 at a total value of $104.6M.

If it is 4y 160m 120m guaranteed it's probabaly not the AAV holding it up but the guaranteed. That is around 75% total guaranteed? The highest they've ever done non-QB is Orlando Brown at 60% and that was a surprise.

I also don’t think using Lamb helps the argument for waiting. No reason to let things become that contentious here. Just get it done.

(08-22-2024, 12:18 AM)Synric Wrote: If it is 4y 160m 120m guaranteed it's probabaly not the AAV holding it up but the guaranteed. That is around 75% total guaranteed? The highest they've ever done non-QB is Orlando Brown at 60% and that was a surprise.

They need to get with the times on that front.

(08-22-2024, 12:20 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I also don’t think using Lamb helps the argument for waiting. No reason to let things become that contentious here. Just get it done.

Personally not a fan of rewarding bad behavior. It's already contentious here and a year earlier. 

(08-22-2024, 12:26 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Personally not a fan of Ja’Marr Chase.

FTFY

(08-22-2024, 12:31 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: FTFY

Sure, thanks. 

(08-21-2024, 07:58 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Have you tried demanding a massive pay increase from your employer?

I AM the employer..lol