(7 hours ago)NUGDUKWE Wrote: Have you been paying attention? Patrick dont look too good. Adding talent late is what good teams do. So I'd say its about that trying to be a good team.

I get Patrick sucks, but the time to address it was during free agency. I doubt any of these guys off the street are going to come in and learn the system and be huge upgrades.

Risner and Mason have been there available for months. The time to sign them was a month ago.

(6 hours ago)bfine32 Wrote: They just broke the bank to sign "his" WRs long term, and you think there's a 50% chance he tries to leave if we don't extend Trey? 

Yep. They've prioritized keeping Joe happy.

That said, they have cap space for Trey.

(6 hours ago)THE PISTONS Wrote: Yep. They've prioritizes keeping Joe happy.

That said, they have cap space for Trey.

Of course they have room to sign Trey. I just find it absurd that folks think JB will "force" to leave if they don't. 

(6 hours ago)puddycat Wrote: I now have Hendrickson fatigue.  Absent real news, I just don't give a flying..
Not a reflection of y'all, but for right now I'm just done.
I was going to add a "I don't care" meme, but I can't be bothered.

Maybe Bengals should endd the drama. Pull the offer and tell Trey report for week 1 ready to practice adnd play or be fined 950K a day.

At least that ends the distraction and the team can focus on getting ready for the Browns and the 2025 season without Trey.

Remind the fine is 950K a week which is 1 week game check plus losing game bonus.

(6 hours ago)bfine32 Wrote: Of course they have room to sign Trey. I just find it absurd that folks think JB will "force" to leave if they don't. 

I think we're several years away frim that at minimum.

That said, Burrow is what 28. 29 in Dec. It feels like they're wasting his prime years.

Honestly, I dont think they're Trey away from a SB unless some of these young guys play like stars.

(6 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: Maybe Bengals should endd the drama. Pull the offer and tell Trey report for week 1 ready to practice adnd play or be fined 950K a day.

At least that ends the distraction and the team can focus on getting ready for the Browns and the 2025 season without Trey.

Remind the fine is 950K a week which is 1 week game check plus losing game bonus.

That's just it. The defense might be absolutely terrible then.

Without seeing the offers, its hard to know what to recommend them doing.

(6 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: Maybe Bengals should endd the drama. Pull the offer and tell Trey report for week 1 ready to practice adnd play or be fined 950K a day.

At least that ends the distraction and the team can focus on getting ready for the Browns and the 2025 season without Trey.

Remind the fine is 950K a week which is 1 week game check plus losing game bonus.

I mean I wouldn't be shocked if we got here before he's traded.  Right or wrong the FO doesn't weigh the media of any value in contract discussions. 

I'd there are actual trade talks (as opposed to what they did earlier  in the offseason) it's complex. Step 1 is the other team trading their solid DE and a pick for Trey. Step 2 is the Bengals trading some sort of pick for more DL help now, guard or safety help.  We can't take a huge step back at DE and be happy with a 2nd in our back pocket while being a pretender. 

(5 hours ago)THE PISTONS Wrote: That's just it. The defense might be absolutely terrible then.

Without seeing the offers, its hard to know what to recommend them doing.

It may be or Trey may miss one week and then end it and come to work. Or waste making 16 million in 2025 and then be a year earlier and still under the same contract for 2026.

He has to play in 2026 or the contract carries over to 2026.

(9 hours ago)NUGDUKWE Wrote: To me there is no excuse for the FO. People joke about the Browns ownership but if they had Burrow and Chase they'd have built a dynasty. They just have no idea what their doing. We are sitting here with 30 mil in cap space and a RG that gets flipped like a flap jack during practice possibly the worst safety duo in the NFL and we can't sign Trey. Figure out what your doing when you still have time to do something to help the team. They are going with a multi-year rebuild model and people are fine with this? News flash when Chase declines thats not helping Burrow we have a 5yr clock thats ticking right now. Trey is a back to back sack leader either pay him or know that your not going to pay him and trade him earlier like any competent front office would do.

Pretty much. There’s a reason the Bengals under Mike Brown have never been a consistent Super Bowl threat, or a consistent Playoff team. This ownership/front office has earned its reputation across the league and with the players. Clown show operation; has been for over 30 years. The players win despite the Brown/Blackburn Family. The deck is always stacked against the players.

(5 hours ago)t3r3e3 Wrote: Pretty much.  There’s a reason the Bengals under Mike Brown have never been a consistent Super Bowl threat, or a consistent Playoff team.  This ownership/front office has earned its reputation across the league and with the players.  Clown show operation; has been for over 30 years.  The players win despite the Brown/Blackburn Family.  The deck is always stacked against the players.

Honestly I think that news came from Treys camp. I can't see how the Bengals would put that out now with Murphy being week to week. No way they have any interest in trading him unless an unbelievable offer came thru. I just wish they would get it done already and see what if anything can be done ontop of that before the season.

(6 hours ago)bfine32 Wrote: Of course they have room to sign Trey. I just find it absurd that folks think JB will "force" to leave if they don't. 

If he plays another season of unbelievable, MVP caliber QB and they miss the playoffs again, I find absurd certain folks think it can’t happen.

If they did everything they could and it didn’t work due to injuries, sure. Can’t fault them for injuries. But to start Lucas Patrick at IOL after ignoring plenty of opportunities to upgrade and refuse to raise the guaranteed money for the team’s best defensive player without improving the defense otherwise in any meaningful way, despite being comfortably under the cap, yeah. It absolutely could happen.

It’s bizarre to think otherwise.

(5 hours ago)RunKijanaRun Wrote: If he plays another season of unbelievable, MVP caliber QB and they miss the playoffs again, I find absurd certain folks think it can’t happen.

If they did everything they could and it didn’t work due to injuries, sure. Can’t fault them for injuries. But to start Lucas Patrick at IOL after ignoring plenty of opportunities to upgrade and refuse to raise the guaranteed money for the team’s best defensive player without improving the defense otherwise in any meaningful way, despite being comfortably under the cap, yeah. It absolutely could happen.

It’s bizarre to think otherwise.

I dont want Carson Palmer to be right. Please dont make him right Bengals. I think Palmers comments would be atleast ringing in his head. Not sure as long as Chase is here we see that but if he cares about winning it all he'll have to be thinking it.

(5 hours ago)RunKijanaRun Wrote: If he plays another season of unbelievable, MVP caliber QB and they miss the playoffs again, I find absurd certain folks think it can’t happen.

If they did everything they could and it didn’t work due to injuries, sure. Can’t fault them for injuries. But to start Lucas Patrick at IOL after ignoring plenty of opportunities to upgrade and refuse to raise the guaranteed money for the team’s best defensive player without improving the defense otherwise in any meaningful way, despite being comfortably under the cap, yeah. It absolutely could happen.

It’s bizarre to think otherwise.

Roll with it. 

First he was going to force an out because we don't resign Trey. Now he forces an out because we have Lucas Patrick.

Seems like only yesterday, he wasn't going to sign with us if we drafted him. 

(5 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: It may be or Trey may miss one week and then end it and come to work. Or waste making 16 million in 2025 and then be a year earlier and still under the same contract for 2026.

He has to play in 2026 or the contract carries over to 2026.

I think he can miss like 8 or 9 games this year. Reddick did that last year for the Jets.