Scott Peters OL coach

[KillerGoose]

(01-22-2025, 01:43 PM)Tomkat Wrote: From a comment on a YouTube video about the hiring of Peters kinda has me concerned...



That's what I don't get.  If these guys are so good, how are they available?

The person who commented this is basing their entire opinion off PFF. They are accounting for no other context, no nuance. Just PFF. I will let you assess whether that is reasonable or not. 

[SunsetBengal]

(01-22-2025, 01:43 PM)Tomkat Wrote: From a comment on a YouTube video about the hiring of Peters kinda has me concerned...



That's what I don't get.  If these guys are so good, how are they available?

I wouldn't put much stock into that, it reads like it was written by a fan.

[TecmoBengals]

(01-22-2025, 01:43 PM)Tomkat Wrote: From a comment on a YouTube video about the hiring of Peters kinda has me concerned...



That's what I don't get.  If these guys are so good, how are they available?

Regarding Peters and his availability, it's easy to reason that New England gave Vrabel a fresh start with his coaching hires. I'm assuming he didn't have to retain staff from the previous two head coaches like a Bengals coach does with Simmons as the special teams coach.

[Frank Booth]

I see Michael Jordan was starting on that patriots offensive line

and to be fair, the titans had a bad o-line this year, and bill callahan was the o-line coach

[Luvnit2]

(01-22-2025, 01:53 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: Regarding Peters and his availability, it's easy to reason that New England gave Vrabel a fresh start with his coaching hires. I'm assuming he didn't have to retain staff from the previous two head coaches like a Bengals coach does with Simmons as the special teams coach.

No need to assume, Pally stated Mayo and all coaches were fired.

[Tomkat]

(01-22-2025, 01:46 PM)Synric Wrote: Scott Peters only got one season in New England with one of the worse OL rosters in the NFL. On top of that he had 12 different starters (tied record) and 10 different OL combinations.

Thanks.  That makes me feel a bit better.

[SunsetBengal]

(01-22-2025, 01:46 PM)Synric Wrote: Scott Peters only got one season in New England with one of the worse OL rosters in the NFL. On top of that he had 12 different starters (tied record) and 10 different OL combinations.

Talk about being asked to make chicken salad out of chicken s**t...

[*Synric*]

(01-22-2025, 01:57 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: I see Michael Jordan was starting on that patriots offensive line

and to be fair, the titans had a bad o-line this year, and bill callahan was the o-line coach

Titans have real talent on the OL too that just didn't play well. JC Latham, Peter Skoronski, Lloyd Cushenberry (Burrow's LSU Center), Dillon Radunz, Jaelyn Duncan, and Nicholas Petit-Frere. 

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(01-22-2025, 02:07 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Talk about being asked to make chicken salad out of chicken s**t...

No doubt. Says a lot when Patriots fans don't think Peters was a problem. That is about the least talented OL in the NFL along with being 
banged up all year on top of it. I know we had injuries on our OL but it wasn't near that bad and we do have talented Tackles and a decent
Center. Get the Guard positions upgraded and Peters could have a much better OL to work with this year and then we can judge.

[*Synric*]

(01-20-2025, 06:05 PM)PCB Bengal Fan Wrote: "negative bias to hate on anything Bengals" is just your hilarious opinion. 

I've had Sunday ticket for 27 years because I moved to Florida, been a fan since 79, I want the Bengals to win a super bowl.

But if the opinions of a 81 year old coach who's claim to fame was Anthony Munoz in the 80s is your thing & makes you feel all warm inside ok. 

Not cutting down McNally at all & what he did in the 80s with great talent & Paul Brown still running things.

I hope the new coach is good & makes the line good, but Jim's thumbs up don't mean sh!t to me, we know it's means something to Mikey Boy though.

I guess I'm not allowed to have opinions different than yours? Just ignore me if you don't like differing opinions.

The thing about Jim McNally is he is still an alum speaker at the COOL Clinic along with Paul Alexander and Dante Scarnecchia. Because the clinic is about coaches teaching coaches Jim would likely know who the up and coming coaches are. 

Side Note: The gym Scott Peters started "Tip of the Spear" is one of the only groups to have speakers at the COOL clinic that aren't NFL or College OL coaches. It used to be Scott Peters now it's former Bengals Guard Mike Pollak.

[Joelist]

Peters is supposed to be a technique teacher. If that proves true we will benefit a lot as bad technique is what sank Volson (for example) and has been an issue for years. The problems with stunts are a technique problem in part also. So we'll see what happens.

[Clark W Griswold]

(01-22-2025, 03:26 PM)Joelist Wrote: Peters is supposed to be a technique teacher. If that proves true we will benefit a lot as bad technique is what sank Volson (for example) and has been an issue for years. The problems with stunts are a technique problem in part also. So we'll see what happens.

Hope that doesn’t mean the Bengals hired him so he can fix Volson. He needs to be replaced no matter who the OL coach is.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(01-22-2025, 03:12 PM)Synric Wrote: The thing about Jim McNally is he is still an alum speaker at the COOL Clinic along with Paul Alexander and Dante Scarnecchia. Because the clinic is about coaches teaching coaches Jim would likely know who the up and coming coaches are. 

Side Note: The gym Scott Peters started "Tip of the Spear" is one of the only groups to have speakers at the COOL clinic that aren't NFL or College OL coaches. It used to be Scott Peters now it's former Bengals Guard Mike Pollak.

Good to know, didn't know all of this either.

(01-22-2025, 03:26 PM)Joelist Wrote: Peters is supposed to be a technique teacher. If that proves true we will benefit a lot as bad technique is what sank Volson (for example) and has been an issue for years. The problems with stunts are a technique problem in part also. So we'll see what happens.

I like everything I have been hearing about Scott Peters. Technique is where it all starts up front.

(01-22-2025, 03:48 PM)Clark W Griswold Wrote: Hope that doesn’t mean the Bengals hired him so he can fix Volson.  He needs to be replaced no matter who the OL coach is.

Nothing wrong with coaching Volson up. He still might be good depth. He just isn't a starter. Bring in Donovan Jackson in the Draft or Trey Smith
to play LG.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(01-22-2025, 04:17 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Nothing wrong with coaching Volson up.

At a certain point it's best for everyone to just cut bait on a player. We waited at least a year too long on Carman, and keeping Volson for 2025 would be at least two years too long too. It's not like he was a super high draft pick and we've just failed to unlock his potential. He was 4th round pick after spending 6 years at North Dakota State.

Clean start for us and a fresh start for him elsewhere. I don't know if he can play elsewhere in the NFL, but we know Cody Ford can backup at least 4 spots, so I don't see a need for him as a backup either. Letting him get back anywhere near Joe Burrow would be malpractice at this point.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(01-22-2025, 05:39 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: At a certain point it's best for everyone to just cut bait on a player. We waited at least a year too long on Carman, and keeping Volson for 2025 would be at least two years too long too. It's not like he was a super high draft pick and we've just failed to unlock his potential. He was 4th round pick after spending 6 years at North Dakota State.

Clean start for us and a fresh start for him elsewhere. I don't know if he can play elsewhere in the NFL, but we know Cody Ford can backup at least 4 spots, so I don't see a need for him as a backup either. Letting him get back anywhere near Joe Burrow would be malpractice at this point.

I am fine with cutting bait as well and as you know I defended Volson for his first couple years but his inability to pick up stunts is apparent.

All for a fresh start.

[TecmoBengals]

(01-22-2025, 01:59 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: No need to assume, Pally stated Mayo and all coaches were fired.

The assumption is he wasn't retained to give Vrabel a fresh start, not as an indicator he was a poor coach.

[Bengal Dude]

(01-22-2025, 01:43 PM)Tomkat Wrote: From a comment on a YouTube video about the hiring of Peters kinda has me concerned...



That's what I don't get.  If these guys are so good, how are they available?

New England was just horribly constructed last year. They didn't do much for their OL. That's why a lot of people wanted Maye to sit the year. It's hard to hold it against most of their coaches.

[Sled21]

(01-22-2025, 03:48 PM)Clark W Griswold Wrote: Hope that doesn’t mean the Bengals hired him so he can fix Volson.  He needs to be replaced no matter who the OL coach is.

That's not a good attitude. If Peters can fix Volson's problems and make him a good guard, that's money we don't need to spend. It's not like Volson sucks on every play, he has had some really good games. He's just not consistent. If he can fix him fine, if he can't, then show him the door and get someone else. Peters ought to know by camp.
I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do with players like Ford, who while not starters, are good backups and how much better he can make them. Zeus said he thought "some of the guys" could really benefit from Peter's techniques, and while I don't know I think he was referencing Ford and Cochran
;

[Soonerpeace]

(01-22-2025, 02:57 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: No doubt. Says a lot when Patriots fans don't think Peters was a problem. That is about the least talented OL in the NFL along with being 
banged up all year on top of it. I know we had injuries on our OL but it wasn't near that bad and we do have talented Tackles and a decent
Center. Get the Guard positions upgraded and Peters could have a much better OL to work with this year and then we can judge.

Both NE’s yards per pass and yards per rush were better under Mayo vs Belichick. Their sacks marginally worse. Hobby surprised me but I’d expect Golden had some influence there. They knew they wanted Golden.

[ERIC1]

(01-22-2025, 03:26 PM)Joelist Wrote: Peters is supposed to be a technique teacher. If that proves true we will benefit a lot as bad technique is what sank Volson (for example) and has been an issue for years. The problems with stunts are a technique problem in part also. So we'll see what happens.

problem is  .he's just not that good..these men have been have been in the trenches for years before coming to the NFL..they know technique