Trey Hendrickson Update

[*bfine32*]

(Yesterday, 10:51 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: He's not 31, stop trying to "age" him. He won't turn 31 until late in the season. As a matter of fact, I played adult football at the Semi-Pro level. I had my best season ever at age 32. Take that for what you will, but I also played DE, and Guard when needed, as well as DT in a pinch or even DT and ILB when needed. 

Think about that. I had my best season at age 32, and I still worked a physical job every day of the week. Imagine what a pro athlete who also has good genetics can do past age 30.

I take that as you were not very good. 

[SunsetBengal]

(Yesterday, 11:00 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I take that as you were not very good. 

I played 7 seasons, started at many positions after the first season. Most of my time was at Guard and DE. I was just fast enough to play other spots when starters went down with injury (is very common in Semi-Pro ball).

[THE PISTONS]

(Yesterday, 06:41 PM)Clark W Griswold Wrote: I think the FO was unprepared for the rise in salaries for the top edge rushers.  They probably did tell Trey last year that they would extend him this offseason but they did not plan or anticipate the market to be $30-35 million per year.
This is another mess up by the FO that they now do not have a solid plan to fix. They probably figured $25-28 million per year would get it done.  I would guess that the number they are still offering.  Knowing how the FO works and reading this quote form Trey makes me believe they are low-balling him for sure:

“I'm not going to apologize for the rates of the defensive ends being paid in the National Football League”

Salaries always go up. Waiting with Chase costed more. I could do more examples.

Maybe they have no intent to keep Trey past this year? They appear to be trying to draft his replacement.

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(Yesterday, 06:24 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Does he? He has one play and that is to sit out. He starts getting fined if he misses any madatory practices, TC and games. His 15.8 million could become 10 million by October.

If he sits out 2025, the contract rolls over to 2026.

Sorry, Bengals hold the cards. They can bring it a vet to replace him after week #1 and the vet would not be guaranteed any money in 2025, so they could cut them if Trey came back from a hold out.

Him sitting out likely torpedoes the defense as he's the only proven pass rusher too. It's a classic lose lose.

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(Yesterday, 03:25 PM)Housh Wrote: I just don’t see why you wouldn’t offer to tac 1 year on for like 32M


Wr just can’t give 3 years

They might be offering that. Trey basically said he doesn't want a short term deal.

[J24]

Bengals just signed 30 year old BJ Hill to a three year deal for 33 million(which is a lot for an above average DT) 16 of which is fully guaranteed. So why can't they spend big money on an Elite Edge who is 30?

[*Nately120*]

Can we win the SB this year without this guy?

[*Synric*]

(Yesterday, 11:48 PM)J24 Wrote: Bengals just signed 30 year old  BJ Hill to a three year deal for 33 million(which is a lot for an above average DT) 16 of which is fully guaranteed. So why can't they spend big money on an Elite Edge who is 30?

Only BJ Hill's 11m signing bonus is fully guaranteed. That's why the Bengals have an out they can cut him in March 2026 for only a 7m dead cap.


They made the first year of his contract massive making it look like they are "spending" like other teams but they are not. 

[wanga]

The more he’s putting out in the media the less sympathy I’m having for him.

[Sled21]

(Yesterday, 10:51 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: He's not 31, stop trying to "age" him. He won't turn 31 until late in the season. As a matter of fact, I played adult football at the Semi-Pro level. I had my best season ever at age 32. Take that for what you will, but I also played DE, and Guard when needed, as well as DT in a pinch or even DT and ILB when needed. 

Think about that. I had my best season at age 32, and I still worked a physical job every day of the week. Imagine what a pro athlete who also has good genetics can do past age 30.

Ok, now everytime I see one of  your posts Will Ferrell yelling "Everybody Love Everybody" is going to come to mind.

[SunsetBengal]

(5 hours ago)Sled21 Wrote: Ok, now everytime I see one of  your posts Will Ferrell yelling "Everybody Love Everybody" is going to come to mind.

Awesome, Will Ferrell is a funny guy, and so are you..

[Millhouse]

(5 hours ago)Nately120 Wrote: Can we win the SB this year without this guy?

It certainly doesn't improve the odds come playoffs.

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(5 hours ago)Nately120 Wrote: Can we win the SB this year without this guy?

Well, we haven't made the playoffs with him getting 17.5 sacks each of the past 2 years.

I still don't know that we have a playoff defense. It may be slightly better personnel wise. We're putting A LOT of pressure on the coaches.

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I'll give a spoiler alert: Putting the Bengals management team on blast to the media isn't a way to get them to move.

If anything, they'll dig their heels in and resist so that other players don't try the same thing.

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(Yesterday, 10:16 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Yes, he is 31 year old. Iam saying something like a 25 million base and then 10 million in incentives. If he produces, he gets all of the money. Why shouldn't the team leverage performance in the extension?

Makes sense to me too, but I don't think he's interested in that. Sounds like he wants something near what Garrett got...in which case, I think trading him is the best option. But, I'm unclear on what the market is for him.

[*PhilHos*]

(Yesterday, 11:48 PM)J24 Wrote: Bengals just signed 30 year old  BJ Hill to a three year deal for 33 million(which is a lot for an above average DT) 16 of which is fully guaranteed. So why can't they spend big money on an Elite Edge who is 30?

I'll be honest, I don't think the disagreement is with the amount of money. I think Trey would take the amount offered but the other stipulations like the length of the deal and the guarantees are where he's disagreeing.

I just wish if he wants communication from the Bengals, maybe he reach out to them first before reaching out to the media? Like, I get it, there should be constant communication to get a deal done, but it's not like Trey doesn't have their number.

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 11:48 PM)J24 Wrote: Bengals just signed 30 year old  BJ Hill to a three year deal for 33 million(which is a lot for an above average DT) 16 of which is fully guaranteed. So why can't they spend big money on an Elite Edge who is 30?

You missed an important detail. Only 16 million is guaranteed or less than 50%.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/44193063/sources-bengals-re-signing-bj-hill-3-year-33m-deal

Free agent defensive tackle B.J. Hill is signing a three-year, $33 million deal that includes $16 million guaranteed to return to the Cincinnati Bengals, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter on Monday.

Some fans would say it is disrespectful to offer such a low guaranteed portion.

[*jason*]

Both sides in this saga really suck at this... Trey's agent is awful. Trey himself whines a lot... As far as the front office? Why does it always have to be this way? Wonder which Brown/ Blackburn put Zac up to telling Trey he was gonna be fined for not showing up to mandatory workouts...

[Luvnit2]

(5 hours ago)Synric Wrote: Only BJ Hill's 11m signing bonus is fully guaranteed. That's why the Bengals have an out they can cut him in March 2026 for only a 7m dead cap.


They made the first year of his contract massive making it look like they are "spending" like other teams but they are not. 

This is not true. Milton Williams signed a 104 million contract, yet only 51 million is guaranteed at signing. That is less than 50% guaranteed money. This is closer to te norm in the NFL, the Bengals follow the norm, they are not doing less than other teams.If you take total guarntees, it i still only 63 million.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/72453/milton-williams

Contract Terms:

4 yr(s) / $104,000,000
Average Salary:
$26,000,000
Signing Bonus:
$24,000,000
GTD at Sign:

$51,000,000
Total GTD:
$63,000,000
Free Agent:
2029 / UFA

DE Sweat signed with Cardinals in 2025.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/29061/montez-sweat

Contract Terms:

4 yr(s) / $98,000,000
Average Salary:
$24,500,000
Signing Bonus:
$20,426,000
GTD at Sign:

$41,964,888
Total GTD:
$62,864,888
Free Agent:
2028 / UFA

Why were these players nit insulted by the low guaranntees, 2 top players who signed quickly in 2025 FA?

[*PhilHos*]

(1 hour ago)jason Wrote: Both sides in this saga really suck at this... Trey's agent is awful. Trey himself whines a lot... As far as the front office? Why does it always have to be this way? Wonder which Brown/ Blackburn put Zac up to telling Trey he was gonna be fined for not showing up to mandatory workouts...

I'd have more sympathy for Trey's side of things if he didn't complain about his contract last year when the Bengals could literally do nothing to rectify his issues. If he's worried about respect, where is his apology to the Bengals for making a stink about his contract last year when they couldn't do anything about it?

Not that this absolves the front office for any disrespect on their part, but kinda makes Trey look a little hypocritcal, no?