Trey Hendrickson Update

[*Nately120*]

(05-30-2025, 05:12 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: My take has become screw Trey and his agent. I hope it sits out and never plays in the NFL again.

I'd rather have a better shot at winning our first Lombardi than see Mike Brown win another staring contest with a disgruntled player.  For all the leverage Trey doesn't have, if he doesn't play our odds of winning it all go down...billion dollar offense, or not.

[*rfaulk34*]

(05-30-2025, 05:29 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Ahem.

"BOLD PREDICTIONS", Phil! They don't count. I'm telling you...they'll get him signed. No bold and no prediction. 

cashmeousside!

[Ell Prez]

(05-30-2025, 11:10 AM)PCB Bengal Fan Wrote: Being a Christian automatically makes you a good person? History proves otherwise. I think Trey is a good man who is has a dumb agent & for some reason won't fire him. Trey asked for more money before last season when he was'nt eligible by league rules to do so. At some point he needs to take blame for accepting what the Bengals offered him & him taking it. Trey did'nt win us 1 game last year, in fact our D was horrible "with" him on the field. He needs traded for whatever they can get. End the saga now.

Yes it does. Which history are you referring to? We all sin and do wrong, but anyone who has done so much wrong they’re considered bad, and claims to be Christian, simply isn’t Christian. But I digress, this is a sports board.


Back to Hendrickson’s play on the field. You don’t think we won any games because of Hendrickson? I now understand why you want him gone. Agree to disagree on that one.

[Ell Prez]

(05-30-2025, 02:47 PM)2MinutesHate Wrote: What I don't get is that when players sign a contract, then have a great year, somehow that gives them the right to amend the contract.  However, if they happen to have a shitty year, the team cannot ask for money back for non-performance or adjust their contract based on the previous season's performance.  If Trey didn't think he was worth $18.66 million for this year, why did he sign the extension?  Or maybe it should've included verbiage that if others such as Myles Garrett or Maxx Crosby get more money than that will give Trey the right to amend the contract?  Obviously, that would never pass.

And yes, the team can terminate the contract and potentially suffer the consequences of the dead cap, but both sides understand this prior to the signing of the contract.
I think they should start writing stipulations for repayment of the signing bonus if players try to hold out just because they no longer like the contract that was just fine for them at the time of signing.

I mean, look at DeShaun Watson.  Cleveland didn't even come close to getting their money's worth, but you don't see them locking him out of the stadium or stomping their feet about the contract that they gave him.  It is what it is.  Trey should be grateful that they offered him a $12 million dollar raise.  If he pulls a LeVeon Bell and sits out the year, he will come back next season at almost 32 looking for $30+million again? 

Never gonna happen.

The Bengals will win this battle.

You’ve never seen a team renegotiate a contract? I’ll be more specific, you’ve never seen the bengals renegotiate a contract? Did you not see the bengals renegotiate Mixon, Moss, Volson?


This happens all the time in sports and in life. Highly competitive fields like sports and premium sales positions, this happens all the time. My company pays me a higher commission rate when I perform in the top 5% of the company. As soon as I stop performing at that level, they drop my commission rate. Pretty standard in sales and all sports

[*PhilHos*]

(05-30-2025, 05:47 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: "BOLD PREDICTIONS", Phil! They don't count. I'm telling you...they'll get him signed. No bold and no prediction. 

cashmeousside!

Sounds like semantics to me. *GASP* You're not ... anti-semantic are you?

[*rfaulk34*]

(05-31-2025, 09:47 AM)PhilHos Wrote: Sounds like semantics to me. *GASP* You're not ... anti-semantic are you?

Ok. Compromise. We'll say you heard it from me first, and you were there to back me up. 

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(05-30-2025, 09:25 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Who signed Hendrickson's 60-million dollar contract and was extremely happy about it???
Who then wanted to re-negotiate, and signed a new extension with more money, and was extremely happy about it????
Who then demanded another contract re-negotiation, when he wasn't even eligible for it???
Who now threatens to sit out the last year of the deal he signed, even though the Bengals offered him a 12 million dollar raise this year that they did not have to???

What in the blue blazes makes you think he's going to be happy next year with any deal they give him this year??? He and his incompetent agent put him in this situation. And evidently every time the cap goes up, he thinks he should get a new deal. If they gave him what he wants today and he signed, as soon as Twatt gets his new deal Hendrickson will want more again. 

Yeah, I don't understand Trey still sticking with this agent. Trey is a smart dude, hate to side with the FO on this as well as they have screwed
up a ton, but Trey is getting up there in age even if he led the league in sacks last year he isn't going to do that again especially after all this BS.

Take the deal Trey and if your agent says to sit out, fire the sumbitch. Time isn't on your side man. Trey got most of his sacks last year feasting 
on a couple sucky LT's as well.

[Soonerpeace]

(05-30-2025, 04:53 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: You heard it here first. 

They'll get him signed right before the season starts. 

They are ridiculously far apart. As Trey wants #1 money. And why there’s been little communication. What’s there to communicate?

[NUGDUKWE]

(06-01-2025, 04:15 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: They are ridiculously far apart. As Trey wants #1 money. And why there’s been little communication. What’s there to communicate?

Trey has said he's not looking for #1 money. He's said the years is the sticking point and everything else is negotiable. I think this is the most believable news as he's been happy enough being paid top 10 and hasn't had an issue with the lack of guarantees the Bengals offer. Makes the years not such a scary prospect if you can get out of the last year if his play drops off as the guaranteed money will be gone by then. The Bengals are just not a good front office. 

[Soonerpeace]

(06-01-2025, 05:51 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: Trey has said he's not looking for #1 money. He's said the years is the sticking point and everything else is negotiable. I think this is the most believable news as he's been happy enough being paid top 10 and hasn't had an issue with the lack of guarantees the Bengals offer. Makes the years not such a scary prospect if you can get out of the last year if his play drops off as the guaranteed money will be gone by then. The Bengals are just not a good front office. 

All I can tell you is on the pure money they are far apart. This time it’s not on the FO.

[SunsetBengal]

(06-01-2025, 04:15 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: They are ridiculously far apart. As Trey wants #1 money. And why there’s been little communication. What’s there to communicate?

Actually, Trey is asking to be matched with Crosby's salary, not Garrett. So no, he does not want #1 money, but he definitely sees himself as worthy of top 3 money.

[J24]

(06-01-2025, 06:40 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Actually, Trey is asking to be matched with Crosby's salary, not Garrett. So no, he does not want #1 money, but he definitely sees himself as worthy of top 3 money.

Crosby's contract should be a no Brainer for the Bengals. No guranteed money or dead money outside of 2026. Would take that in a heartbeat for Trey!

[c766]

If trey actually sits out a year, and loses 17M, he'd get around a 2 year 20 mill dollar deal, max, for age 32/33 season

[MTBengalsFan]

(06-01-2025, 06:40 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Actually, Trey is asking to be matched with Crosby's salary, not Garrett. So no, he does not want #1 money, but he definitely sees himself as worthy of top 3 money.

He's worthy of that, but if he falls off a cliff two years from now, he won't give aco.mensurate "refund" to the Bengals.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(06-01-2025, 07:12 PM)c766 Wrote: If trey actually sits out a year, and loses 17M, he'd get around a 2 year 20 mill dollar deal, max, for age 32/33 season

LOL

-Joey Bosa is heading into his age 30 season and had 14 sacks over his previous 3 years combined. He got a 1yr/$12.6m deal with a $9m signing bonus this offseason.
-Malcolm Koonce has had 0.0 sacks in 2 of the last 3 years and has a career 10.0 sacks in 4 years... and got 1yr/$12m this offseason.
-Chase Young has never had an 8 sack season before, and he got 3yr/$51m with a $17m signing bonus and over $27m guaranteed at signing.

The cap is projected to rise another $28m next year to $307m, and you're out here making up 2yr/$20m for a guy with back-to-back 17.5 sack seasons. LOL

[*rfaulk34*]

(06-01-2025, 03:47 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yeah, I don't understand Trey still sticking with this agent. Trey is a smart dude, hate to side with the FO on this as well as they have screwed
up a ton, but Trey is getting up there in age even if he led the league in sacks last year he isn't going to do that again especially after all this BS.

Take the deal Trey and if your agent says to sit out, fire the sumbitch. Time isn't on your side man. Trey got most of his sacks last year feasting 
on a couple sucky LT's as well.

So we're gonna start going there now. 

[c766]

(06-01-2025, 07:30 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: LOL

-Joey Bosa is heading into his age 30 season and had 14 sacks over his previous 3 years combined. He got a 1yr/$12.6m deal with a $9m signing bonus this offseason.
-Malcolm Koonce has had 0.0 sacks in 2 of the last 3 years and has a career 10.0 sacks in 4 years... and got 1yr/$12m this offseason.
-Chase Young has never had an 8 sack season before, and he got 3yr/$51m with a $17m signing bonus and over $27m guaranteed at signing.

The cap is projected to rise another $28m next year to $307m, and you're out here making up 2yr/$20m for a guy with back-to-back 17.5 sack seasons. LOL

Have any of those players sat out an entire season while under contract? 

Haason Reddick sat out half 1/3rd of a year, and it cost him a fortune 

[c766]

(06-01-2025, 07:32 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: So we're gonna start going there now. 

Going where?  To the actual facts on his production? 

[*rfaulk34*]

(06-01-2025, 07:43 PM)c766 Wrote: Going where?  To the actual facts on his production? 

Well hell. If we're gonna do that, why don't we just find out how all the other guys got their sacks. You know, just so we can have a fair comparison. 

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(06-01-2025, 07:40 PM)c766 Wrote: Have any of those players sat out an entire season while under contract? 

Haason Reddick sat out half 1/3rd of a year, and it cost him a fortune 

No, playing 10 games and failing to register a single full sack is what cost him. He would have gotten more money if he had sat out the whole year... and he still got more than the $10m/yr you said Hendrickson would get.