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Trey Hendrickson Update
(08-01-2025, 09:12 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I can't see Jerry Jones' ego (or love of making money) ever letting him tank a season. He'd be much more likely to make a 49ers-Trey Lance type trade because he'd see it as buying success which is what he wants to do as a businessman.

Since 1968 (Bengals first year) the Cowboys have had a top-5 pick only 7 times... and they only earned it 3 times. The other 4 of those 7 they traded up from out of the top-5 to get it. 

Its a far out idea/prediction but if Jerry thinks he can get the next big thing in sports (in Archie) then a tanking job might  be enticing to him.
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(08-01-2025, 08:33 PM)XsandOs Wrote: I hear you Stewy. But given what Eli did to San Diego, I could see Arch dictating where he goes. 

However; I don't believe he will enter the draft in 2026. He has not been a full season starter and has three years of eligibility remaining. 

Mannings tend to use their entire eligibility.  

I think he will declare in 2027 at the earliest. 

True enough, but that was also 25+ years ago when everyone stayed longer  Things were different then.  We'll see.

If he stays 3 more years, Texas fans are in for a treat.
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(08-01-2025, 06:36 PM)Stewy Wrote: Are you high?  This is typical for high end talent on rookie contracts.  Chase did the same damn thing.  It is standard procedure in the NFL, and Dallas is completely in the wrong here if what he says is true.  Trying to completely cut out his agent from negotiations is just ridiculous.

Dallas doesn't have to give Parsons a new contract after his 3rd year or 4th year or 5th year.  Its tiring hearing these multi-millionaires athletes complaining about their team not giving them a new contract and another big signing bonus when they still haven't fulfilled their current contract.  If Parsons doesnt get a new contract this year, he will get one next year from somebody so why cry to the media about it and pout about not wanting to play?  Man up, play out your contract and get another one next year.  If he has a great season, he will get paid even more next year anyways.
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(08-01-2025, 06:40 PM)J24 Wrote: Who is arguing you on this?

Arguing, no one. Go read page 95. Some hypothetical talks in there.
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(08-01-2025, 11:24 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: Dallas doesn't have to give Parsons a new contract after his 3rd year or 4th year or 5th year.  Its tiring hearing these multi-millionaires athletes complaining about their team not giving them a new contract and another big signing bonus when they still haven't fulfilled their current contract.  If Parsons doesnt get a new contract this year, he will get one next year from somebody so why cry to the media about it and pout about not wanting to play?  Man up, play out your contract and get another one next year.  If he has a great season, he will get paid even more next year anyways.

If this was the NBA, sure. It’s not. It’s the NFL, and this is the reality.
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Broncos just extended Zach Allen 4 years, $102 million, $69.5 guaranteed. He’s 27, led the league in pressures with 8.5 sacks.

Cut a year off that deal, take 25% off salary and guarantee and sign Trey
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(08-01-2025, 10:06 PM)Stewy Wrote: True enough, but that was also 25+ years ago when everyone stayed longer  Things were different then.  We'll see.

If he stays 3 more years, Texas fans are in for a treat.

I believe Manning will stay in school for a while yet. He needs to see the college field more before he makes the jump to the Pros, and with the NIL money he gets, it makes that decision easier. I haven't looked up the numbers, but I assume he's making millions at UT
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Parsons said he was willing to leave money on the table to stay in Dallas before they pissed him off......

Imagine, if you will, a world where the Bengals sign their DE Trey Hendrickson, and Michah Parsons decides to chase a ring and signs a 4-year deal with the Bengals. Ladies and Gentlemen, you have now entered the Twilight Zone.
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(08-01-2025, 10:06 PM)Stewy Wrote: True enough, but that was also 25+ years ago when everyone stayed longer  Things were different then.  We'll see.

If he stays 3 more years, Texas fans are in for a treat.

(Yesterday, 10:46 AM)Sled21 Wrote: I believe Manning will stay in school for a while yet. He needs to see the college field more before he makes the jump to the Pros, and with the NIL money he gets, it makes that decision easier. I haven't looked up the numbers, but I assume he's making millions at UT

I think the Arch declaring/not declaring narrative will be played to its fullest by sports media. It will be interesting to see who tanks their season at the right time.

Sled; I don't think NIL matters to this family. I do agree that he/they would want at least a couple of years of full starting experience. Eli and Peyton had 16 year NFL careers after four years of college.  

BTW Stewy; are you calling me old? What the heck is wrong with you - you football headed nincompoop (oldest term I could think of)?
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(08-01-2025, 08:10 PM)Stewy Wrote: Also whether he stays may be directly related to who has the first pick.  If its the Browns at the top, I bet he stays in school.  Probably some other teams on that list too.

Ha ha, love it. Arch don't want to be on dem stains lol

(08-01-2025, 08:35 PM)XsandOs Wrote: Welcome brother!

Hey, gotta keep my shit straight. Vyper it is. Knight I believe is our Vyper.
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(Yesterday, 10:53 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Parsons said he was willing to leave money on the table to stay in Dallas before they pissed him off......

Imagine, if you will, a world where the Bengals sign their DE Trey Hendrickson, and Micah Parsons decides to chase a ring and signs a 4-year deal with the Bengals. Ladies and Gentlemen, you have now entered the Twilight Zone.

That would blow the world's mind. Especially the stealers and all their numb brained fans across the world. Make it happen Lord. Mellow
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(Yesterday, 10:36 AM)pally Wrote: Broncos just extended Zach Allen 4 years, $102 million, $69.5 guaranteed.  He’s 27, led the league in pressures with 8.5 sacks.

Cut a year off that deal, take 25% off salary and guarantee and sign Trey

Lol, why would Trey sign for $25.5m/yr to align himself with a guy whose previous career high before the 8.5 sacks was 5.5?

That's just 62.2% of the top of the market.
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(10 hours ago)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Lol, why would Trey sign for $25.5m/yr to align himself with a guy whose previous career high before the 8.5 sacks was 5.5?

That's just 62.2% of the top of the market.

Maybe Pally was referring to the 70% guarantee for the 27 year old who is quite younger than Trey.
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(10 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: Maybe Pally was referring to the 70% guarantee for the 27 year old who is quite younger than Trey.

No, she very clearly said "take 25% off salary and guarantee".....

That's 3yr/$76.5m with $52.125m guaranteed
compared to
TJ Watt's 3yr/$123m with $108m guaranteed

Why would he accept 62.2% of the money and 48.3% of the guaranteed money?
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(Yesterday, 10:36 AM)pally Wrote: Broncos just extended Zach Allen 4 years, $102 million, $69.5 guaranteed.  He’s 27, led the league in pressures with 8.5 sacks.

Cut a year off that deal, take 25% off salary and guarantee and sign Trey

Hell, I think it would be a bargin if we could just get him with those numbers for 3 Years. 
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(9 hours ago)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: No, she very clearly said "take 25% off salary and guarantee".....

That's 3yr/$76.5m with $52.125m guaranteed
compared to
TJ Watt's 3yr/$123m with $108m guaranteed

Why would he accept 62.2% of the money and 48.3% of the guaranteed money?

What is 70% of zero? That is his guarantee in 2025. I agree he needs extended, I agree he needs some guaranteed money in 2025 and 2026 and he deserves a raise. But, there is where agreements end. You and others probably think he deserves a bigger raise and higher guarantee tha me or others. 

In the end our opinions are useless as only one party has the hammer to say yes and it is not Trey. I hope it is worked out, but I woul dnot be shocked if Trey insists on demands the FO has said no, likely no new extension anytinme soon.

I think numbers Pally posted are low as well, but my hunch is the Bengals offer is not close to the numbers you feel he deserves. That is what makes the business a tough part in the NFL, look around and contracts disputes besides Trey exist. They existed last year and will exist every year in my opinion. I know I never felt I was paid fairly, most people don't.
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