Rob Rang: Dylan Fairchild=Max Montoya?

[*Au165*]

(07-02-2025, 12:26 AM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Actually his movement was impressive  for 300 plus wrestler..wow

Correct, the video wasn't him muscling Strickland around the cage it was a 300 pound guy changing levels with great flexibility and out pacing the smaller guy. We have for years lacked great athletes at OL so I am excited to get one.

I coached wrestling for 10 years, wrestled in college, have all the hardware and awards...what you see here is impressive for someone that size even looking at it through the lens of just a trained wrestler of that size moving like that.

[*ochocincos*]

(07-02-2025, 02:30 PM)Au165 Wrote: Correct, the video wasn't him muscling Strickland around the cage it was a 300 pound guy changing levels with great flexibility and out pacing the smaller guy. We have for years lacked great athletes at OL so I am excited to get one.

I coached wrestling for 10 years, wrestled in college, have all the hardware and awards...what you see here is impressive for someone that size even looking at it through the lens of just a trained wrestler of that size moving like that.

And the ones who were supposed to be lighter, more athletic types ended up getting bullied a lot too.
(Adeniji and Mike Jordan specifically stand out in my mind).

Bengals have been mostly whiffing on OL (especially IOL) in the draft since Boling/Zeitler.

[Essex Johnson]

(07-02-2025, 02:30 PM)Au165 Wrote: Correct, the video wasn't him muscling Strickland around the cage it was a 300 pound guy changing levels with great flexibility and out pacing the smaller guy. We have for years lacked great athletes at OL so I am excited to get one.

I coached wrestling for 10 years, wrestled in college, have all the hardware and awards...what you see here is impressive for someone that size even looking at it through the lens of just a trained wrestler of that size moving like that.

well got you beat on the coaching  20 plus years but not the college part..lol.. totally agree with you

[Essex Johnson]

(07-02-2025, 03:49 PM)ochocincos Wrote: And the ones who were supposed to be lighter, more athletic types ended up getting bullied a lot too.
(Adeniji and Mike Jordan specifically stand out in my mind).

Bengals have been mostly whiffing on OL (especially IOL) in the draft since Boling/Zeitler.

did not see them on tape in a ring, normally to be a very good IOL you need a combo of both athletic and a bit of a brawler,, seems like Dylan might be  fitting that bill since most scouts/analysis talked about his physical side but did not focus on his athletic side... many think when you are a heavyweight in wrestling, you just are a brawler but to actually be good and a state champ you need to be athletic also.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(07-02-2025, 02:30 PM)Au165 Wrote: Correct, the video wasn't him muscling Strickland around the cage it was a 300 pound guy changing levels with great flexibility and out pacing the smaller guy. We have for years lacked great athletes at OL so I am excited to get one.

I coached wrestling for 10 years, wrestled in college, have all the hardware and awards...what you see here is impressive for someone that size even looking at it through the lens of just a trained wrestler of that size moving like that.

Nice, saw the same thing in that vid. Agree, we needed athleticism on the OL terribly bad. With Mims and now Fairchild we just might 
have some good athleticism for once.

[*bfine32*]

(07-02-2025, 02:30 PM)Au165 Wrote: Correct, the video wasn't him muscling Strickland around the cage it was a 300 pound guy changing levels with great flexibility and out pacing the smaller guy. We have for years lacked great athletes at OL so I am excited to get one.

I coached wrestling for 10 years, wrestled in college, have all the hardware and awards...what you see here is impressive for someone that size even looking at it through the lens of just a trained wrestler of that size moving like that.

(07-02-2025, 04:05 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: well got you beat on the coaching  20 plus years but not the college part..lol.. totally agree with you

As someone who counted his fair share of gymnasium lights, I got you both beat. This still makes me think I could get on the mat

[SunsetBengal]

(07-02-2025, 06:23 PM)bfine32 Wrote: As someone who counted his fair share of gymnasium lights, I got you both beat. This still makes me think I could get on the mat

So, are you saying you got pinned often?? 

[Bengalitis]

Pretty good video... if he's that agile, put him at DE. I keep hearing a lot about him on these threads... I look forward to seeing his magic on the field.

[*bfine32*]

(07-03-2025, 07:37 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: So, are you saying you got pinned often?? 

Yes, I first started wrestling for the conditioning only, I'd never wrestled prior. Freshman and sophomore years apparently the only people I were better than was the other kids in my school in my weight class. I did get better. 

[Frank Booth]

I can tell this guy is a glass eater

[*Synric*]

(07-02-2025, 02:30 PM)Au165 Wrote: Correct, the video wasn't him muscling Strickland around the cage it was a 300 pound guy changing levels with great flexibility and out pacing the smaller guy. We have for years lacked great athletes at OL so I am excited to get one.

I coached wrestling for 10 years, wrestled in college, have all the hardware and awards...what you see here is impressive for someone that size even looking at it through the lens of just a trained wrestler of that size moving like that.

He's similar to Sam Hubbard as an athlete smooth mover with excellent body control more than twitchy. 

[*Synric*]

(07-01-2025, 06:31 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Interesting, but that is espn and I heard Ratledge was going to be playing Center for the Lions once Ragnow retired.

We will see how it shakes out. Would like to see some TC or better yet game footage to know for sure who is playing Center this year for 
the Lions. I don't put much stock in espn roster lists. I bet they get a ton wrong.

They may just be cross-training Tate Ratledge for depth. He's a smart football player his father was a football and wrestling coach.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(07-06-2025, 02:26 PM)Synric Wrote: They may just be cross-training Tate Ratledge for depth. He's a smart football player his father was a football and wrestling coach.

True, not a bad idea I guess. Versatility is a great thing. Just sometimes throwing too much at a rookie can hurt them, we will see.

[3wt]

(07-06-2025, 02:26 PM)Synric Wrote: They may just be cross-training Tate Ratledge for depth. He's a smart football player his father was a football and wrestling coach.

Missed the chance to get him.  I think Knight is going to be really good, but we had the chance to really upgrade the interior offensive line for the next 8 years.  Imagine Joe with a really solid interior pocket...

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(07-08-2025, 01:45 PM)3wt Wrote: Missed the chance to get him.  I think Knight is going to be really good, but we had the chance to really upgrade the interior offensive line for the next 8 years.  Imagine Joe with a really solid interior pocket...

I was all for Tate as well as Dylan. I just think Golden got the first 2 picks for his Defense and he really liked Knight a ton.

We will see how the players do under Peters on the OL and if the interior really improves. It wouldn't surprise me, good coaching can do wonders.

[3wt]

(07-08-2025, 04:45 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I was all for Tate as well as Dylan. I just think Golden got the first 2 picks for his Defense and he really liked Knight a ton.

We will see how the players do under Peters on the OL and if the interior really improves. It wouldn't surprise me, good coaching can do wonders.

I love the position coaching upgrades!

And if we can get Stewart into camp early I really like our draft.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(07-10-2025, 12:37 PM)3wt Wrote: I love the position coaching upgrades!

And if we can get Stewart into camp early I really like our draft.

Still stand by coaching being our biggest thing holding us back the last couple of years and why we didn't make the Playoffs even with winning records.

Pollack and the Defensive coaches simply were not getting it done.

Yes, if Stewart gets to TC we could be upgraded big time. His athleticism and run stopping should really help this Defense over washed up Sam. Ossai 
also was coming around last season. Get Trey happy and let's roll!

[Nicomo Cosca]

(07-10-2025, 01:32 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Still stand by coaching being our biggest thing holding us back the last couple of years and why we didn't make the Playoffs even with winning records.

Pollack and the Defensive coaches simply were not getting it done.

Yes, if Stewart gets to TC we could be upgraded big time. His athleticism and run stopping should really help this Defense over washed up Sam. Ossai 
also was coming around last season. Get Trey happy and let's roll!

Nah. Those same coaches were here for deep playoff runs when they actually had the players. It was the FO that let the roster go to shit.

[*ochocincos*]

(07-08-2025, 01:45 PM)3wt Wrote: Missed the chance to get him.  I think Knight is going to be really good, but we had the chance to really upgrade the interior offensive line for the next 8 years.  Imagine Joe with a really solid interior pocket...

But a 2-down run stopping, fast LB is so much more important than IOL, don't you know? 

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(07-10-2025, 01:36 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Nah. Those same coaches were here for deep playoff runs when they actually had the players. It was the FO that let the roster go to shit.

Cannot disagree that letting Bates, Reader and others go was on the FO. Just saying Pollack couldn't coach up anybody on the OL and Lou and
the Defensive coaches couldn't coach up tackling or discipline to not allow explosive plays. I think it was both. If Peters can coach up the youth 
on the OL and Golden and the new Defensive coaches are upgrades we should be right back in the Playoffs IMO.