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Game of Thrones Season 7 discussion (spoilers for any aired episode)
#41
(07-19-2017, 01:30 PM)CKwi88 Wrote: Another observation:

Jaime seems pretty chill considering Cersei did pretty much what he killed the mad king for ordering. Not to mention another dead son.

Plus she is blaming the son for "deserting" her.
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This is from someone who just watches the show, but doesn't always know what's going on exactly. Is everyone else playing for 2nd place, because one of them has three dragons and 100,000 highly dedicated soldiers.
In the future, you will hold your tongue until you have discovered where the surplus population is and who it is. It may well be that  in the sight of Heaven  you are more worthless and less fit to live than millions like this poor child.




 
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#43
(07-20-2017, 10:06 AM)michaelsean Wrote: This is from someone who just watches the show, but doesn't always know what's going on exactly.  Is everyone else playing for 2nd place, because one of them has three dragons and 100,000 highly dedicated soldiers.

Nah they all playing for first place.. But they should be playing to survive the night king.
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(07-20-2017, 10:06 AM)michaelsean Wrote: This is from someone who just watches the show, but doesn't always know what's going on exactly.  Is everyone else playing for 2nd place, because one of them has three dragons and 100,000 highly dedicated soldiers.

But how long can she hold them when she doesn't let them rape and pillage? The Dothraki are about 100k, but let's just assume it's 50% able bodied men. That's 50k. She HAD 8k unsullied, but that was before taking Mereen, dealing with the Sons of the Harpy, and then dealing with the Masters. Let's say she's got 7k now.So Dany is still looking strong with 57k fighters and three dragons.

Her ancestors just used Dragons and less than 2k people. They first had support from those around Dragonstone/Future Kings Landing and then got more support when their dragons burned holds down. First they burned down Harrenhall, where Harren Hoard (leader of the Iron Islands and Riverlands) lived. They made the Tullys the new lords of the Riverlands. Then they defeated the Storm Lords in the Stormlands, and Baratheon, the bastard brother of Aegon, married the Storm King's daughter and took the Storm Lands. The Lannisters and Gardeners (who ruled the Reach) got an army of 50k together but dragons burned 30% of it. The Lannisters knelt and the Gardeners died. Aegon put the Tyrells in charge of the Reach. The North bent the knee, even though they had twice as many men as the new Aegon forces combined. The Arryns assumed they were safe behind the bloody gate, so Aegon flew a dragon and landed. The Vale submitted. 

So that in context, if Dany chooses to burn people, she will easily win. IDK if she will though. 
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(07-20-2017, 11:49 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: But how long can she hold them when she doesn't let them rape and pillage? The Dothraki are about 100k, but let's just assume it's 50% able bodied men. That's 50k. She HAD 8k unsullied, but that was before taking Mereen, dealing with the Sons of the Harpy, and then dealing with the Masters. Let's say she's got 7k now.So Dany is still looking strong with 57k fighters and three dragons.

Her ancestors just used Dragons and less than 2k people. They first had support from those around Dragonstone/Future Kings Landing and then got more support when their dragons burned holds down. First they burned down Harrenhall, where Harren Hoard (leader of the Iron Islands and Riverlands) lived. They made the Tullys the new lords of the Riverlands. Then they defeated the Storm Lords in the Stormlands, and Baratheon, the bastard brother of Aegon, married the Storm King's daughter and took the Storm Lands. The Lannisters and Gardeners (who ruled the Reach) got an army of 50k together but dragons burned 30% of it. The Lannisters knelt and the Gardeners died. Aegon put the Tyrells in charge of the Reach. The North bent the knee, even though they had twice as many men as the new Aegon forces combined. The Arryns assumed they were safe behind the bloody gate, so Aegon flew a dragon and landed. The Vale submitted. 

So that in context, if Dany chooses to burn people, she will easily win. IDK if she will though. 

This is assuming Danny keeps control of her dragons... Euron crow's eye, (King of the Iron Islands)  has a special Horn or gift that is believed to control the dragons.     

Even if he can only gain control of 1 at a time that could greatly reduce dannys numbers of her army if they don't just die of the cold they will die by dragon...  Will danny have the other 2 dragons kill the one she loses control of?   

Remember this story is not gonna end with Danny on the throne.   If it does it will be the most disappointing end imaginable.
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(07-20-2017, 01:03 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: This is assuming Danny keeps control of her dragons... Euron crow's eye, (King of the Iron Islands)  has a special Horn or gift that is believed to control the dragons.     

Even if he can only gain control of 1 at a time that could greatly reduce dannys numbers of her army if they don't just die of the cold they will die by dragon...  Will danny have the other 2 dragons kill the one she loses control of?   

Remember this story is not gonna end with Danny on the throne.   If it does it will be the most disappointing end imaginable.

I don't think they're going to introduce that. I think his gift will involve a battle or something. 

I don't think she takes the throne either. It's all about killing White Walkers. Bran and Dany both saw the Red Keep covered in snow. My belief is that the White Walkers do make it that far south and it's just about killing them. 

Dany may play Nissa Nissa to Jon's Azor Ahai.
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you *****....North is to the West!!!!
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(07-20-2017, 10:35 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: I don't think they're going to introduce that. I think his gift will involve a battle or something. 

I don't think she takes the throne either. It's all about killing White Walkers. Bran and Dany both saw the Red Keep covered in snow. My belief is that the White Walkers do make it that far south and it's just about killing them. 

Dany may play Nissa Nissa to Jon's Azor Ahai.

it wouldn't surprise me if it ends with say someone like Jon on the throne (if there is a throne left at that point)   but no one really left alive to rule.
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#49
(Yesterday, 12:28 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: it wouldn't surprise me if it ends with say someone like Jon on the throne (if there is a throne left at that point)   but no one really left alive to rule.

could truly be 7 kingdoms again
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(Yesterday, 02:28 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: could truly be 7 kingdoms again

Yeah but that doesn't fit dannys goal in her mind the whole place is hers.  for it to go back to 7 or more kingdoms she would have to give up that vision one way or the other.

I could see 2 kingdoms with the North claiming eyrie and the riverlands.     and then the rest to whoevers left. (dorne maybe)
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