Left-Wing Media Is Ruining My High School

[THE Bigzoman]

(01-21-2019, 12:36 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Apparently a huge misunderstanding that was aggravated by the boy having a smug smile and refusing to let the native American pass.

The kid really didn't do much wrong, all he needed to do was step aside and let the guy pass.  I think he just mistook the native American for one of the African Americans that had been acting like ass holes.

As Dino said, it was a tense situation and the parents should have stepped in.  But that is what happens when adults try to use unsupervised children to protest for them.

Except Phillips went directly into the crowd to play the drumb in the boy's face.

That smile looks like one of the smiles I would put on when a drunk old dude approaches me and starts talking gibberish. I smile in an attempt to hide my discomfort in the hopes of not offending a deranged old man.

When did awkwardly smiling become a crime?

[fredtoast]

(01-21-2019, 03:12 PM)bfine32 Wrote: As i said earlier: There were kids being disrespectful; however, the kid that is making all the news was not. 

So why didn't he move aside and let the old man pass like everyone else in the crowd?

That seems disrespectful to me. And apparently to everyone else in the crowd also.

[*michaelsean*]

(01-21-2019, 02:44 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: An adult was trying to defuse a situation between those teenagers and a group that was antagonizing them. He was trying to get in between the groups. That was the motivation behind the elder's actions according to the elder himself. He didn't deliberately put them in an awkward situation. The only source of information for the motivations on either side are those directly involved, and it really just seems to all stem from a misunderstanding. My opinions regarding some of the behavior comes from reporting of mocking behavior from some of the students towards the indigenous crowd. I'm also saying some, not all, not the majority, just some. I fully acknowledge that this is based on the description of the event from indigenous individuals at the event.

As for the smirk, I do think it was a smart-ass teenager smirk and not at all what he claims it was. But I haven't really focused too much on any of this to have much of an opinion beyond that.

The middle of one group isn't between the groups.  

[*bfine32*]

(01-21-2019, 03:16 PM)THE Bigzoman Wrote: Except Phillips went directly into the crowd to play the drumb in the boy's face.

That smile looks like one of the smiles I would put on when a drunk old dude approaches me and starts talking gibberish. I smile in an attempt to hide my discomfort in the hopes of not offending a deranged old man.

When did awkwardly smiling become a crime?

Apparently doing it while wearing a MAGA hat. 

[THE Bigzoman]

(01-21-2019, 03:08 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: One thing we should all be able to agree on is that the initial reports were completely wrong and the reaction to the initial story, both from celebrities and politicians, was nauseating.  This is the second news story in around a week that the media completely screwed the pooch on, the Buzzfeed article that everyone jumped on being the other.

Seems like the MSM is trying really hard to earn that "fakenews" moniker.

The funniest thing to witness in real time was the conseratives and catholic pundits throw these kids to the wolves only to apologize later then whe facts came out.

***** rats.

[fredtoast]

(01-21-2019, 03:16 PM)THE Bigzoman Wrote: Except Phillips went directly into the crowd to play the drumb in the boy's face.

No he didn't.

Why in the world would he pass through an entire crowd to pick out this one random boy who was doing nothing?

And why was that one random boy the only one who did not move aside to let him pass.  The boys own words are "I didn't see anyone try to block his path" yet that is exactly what he did when the man reached him.

Why didn't he step aside just like everyone else did?

[*bfine32*]

(01-21-2019, 03:17 PM)fredtoast Wrote: So why didn't he move aside and let the old man pass like everyone else in the crowd?

That seems disrespectful to me. And apparently to everyone else in the crowd also.

He did not block the man from going wherever he wants; unless the man wanted to go through him; which he showed no signs of trying to do 

Earlier you question my teaching my boys about respect. Well my boys are adults now and I teach them to behave like adults and understand kids do things they don't fully comprehend. Basically I but the onus on them in any encounter with children.

[Beaker]

I go on our school Washington DC trip every year as a chaperone. If those had been my kids, I would have gotten between them and the NA and moved the kids farther up the stairs and away from him. If the NA had followed them, I would then have blocked his path and kept him from the kids.

If someone would then paint me as infringing on his (the NA) right to proceed, I would make one statement outlining my duty to protect my kids first and then took whatever the media wanted to dish out with no further comment or apology. The news cycle is so fast, and Americans have such a short attention span that it would be over in a few days to a week.

[treee]

From what little I've followed of this story, seems to be a classic form of what is sometimes termed "Outrage Porn". People love finding things to get worked up about, in what amounts to quite literally nothing in the grand scheme of things. And corporate/clickbait news loves to feed it to them.

[fredtoast]

(01-21-2019, 03:16 PM)THE Bigzoman Wrote: When did awkwardly smiling become a crime?

Not a crime, but it is rude and disrespectful when the person doing it is the only one in a crowd who did not step aside to let an elderly man pass.

[BmorePat87]

(01-21-2019, 03:08 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: One thing we should all be able to agree on is that the initial reports were completely wrong and the reaction to the initial story, both from celebrities and politicians, was nauseating.  This is the second news story in around a week that the media completely screwed the pooch on, the Buzzfeed article that everyone jumped on being the other.

Seems like the MSM is trying really hard to earn that "fakenews" moniker.

The media is careful to use words like "appears", "may", "allegedly". We live in an age of instant information, where controversy arises on the internet and news outlets have to find ways to cover it, knowing more information will come out. I think jumping to label this as "fakenews" is a mistake.

The immediate reactions from people, however, were emotional. People are not inclined to sit back, gather information, and then make judgement. 

[Beaker]

(01-21-2019, 03:23 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Not a crime, but it is rude and disrespectful when the person doing it is the only one in a crowd who did not step aside to let an elderly man pass.

He didnt try to pass.

[fredtoast]

(01-21-2019, 03:22 PM)bfine32 Wrote: He did not block the man from going wherever he wants; unless the man wanted to go through him; which he showed no signs of trying to do 

Everyone else moved aside for the native.  Why not this boy?  Why was he the only one to refuse, and how is that considered "respectful" in your world?

[THE Bigzoman]

(01-21-2019, 03:23 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Not a crime, but it is rude and disrespectful when the person doing it is the only one in a crowd who did not step aside to let an elderly man pass.

Except again, he wasn't doing it to pass.

If you look at an unedited version of the stream showing the events in real time, you see that Phillips had a clear path to his destination around the crowd that he could've taken.

He instead opts to go to the crowd and play his drum.

[GMDino]

(01-21-2019, 03:17 PM)michaelsean Wrote: The middle of one group isn't between the groups.  

The "dude" said that is why he walked over there.

Again this is a big deal because people want to make it a big deal.

The left can talk about how Trump has lowered the amount of respect for others in this country and the right can talk about how Trump supoorters get a raw deal just for being Trump supporters.

Perfect story.

[*michaelsean*]

And did the old guy ever say, "Excuse me I'd like to get through."? That's what I say when someone is blocking my way.. I don't stand there and pound on a drum.

[*bfine32*]

(01-21-2019, 03:25 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Everyone else moved aside for the native.  Why not this boy?  Why was he the only one to refuse, and how is that considered "respectful" in your world?

You have to be asked to do something before you can refuse.

He showed no disrespect. 

But as many subjects with you, This has gotten beyond ridiculous. Feel free to discuss the matter further with others.

[*Nately120*]

(01-21-2019, 03:18 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Apparently doing it while wearing a MAGA hat. 

Ehh that's like wearing a Steelers jersey to a Bengals bar and smirking at people.

[Benton]

(01-21-2019, 01:00 PM)bfine32 Wrote: It's cute how the usual suspects are trying to compare this to youth fighting in a Mall parking lot as to parental responsibility.

I've heard things such as : where were the parents....the parents were filming the event.

The child in the video does absolutely nothing wrong, what should a parent have done if standing right beside the boy?

Are folks suggesting the NA was a threat and the boy was in possible danger? Seems pretty racist.

The parent should have let the black guys know these are just high school kids and asked then to refrain from calling them slurs. If they persisted, the adult should have flagged down an officer.

Instead, there was a lot of heckling and name calling. Apparently by design.

[THE Bigzoman]

(01-21-2019, 03:29 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Ehh that's like wearing a Steelers jersey to a Bengals bar and smirking at people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPmzRa-sXQs