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Rookie Impressions Week 2 Preseason 2023 |
Posted by: DYT_Bengal - 08-19-2023, 04:19 PM - Forum: JUNGLE NOISE
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Last night was interesting but kind of boring. I don't know how much positives can be taken away but I think some of the negatives are starting to show.
Myles Murphy - made a few plays chasing down running backs but looked slow on the perimeter. I don't know if this is effort, he plays with a motor but doesn't seem to follow through sometimes.
Charlie Jones - looks a little undersized but I could see him become important to the offense.
Iosivas - went from potential star to possibly not making the team. I don't know if he can make the gritty catches outside of highlight plays/drag routes. Second game with high volume, low production.
Battle - I don't see negatives? Didn't pay too much attention.
DJ Turner - Makes a LOT of plays, sometimes gets burned. This could become more pronounced in the regular season.
DJ Ivey - didn't see him play.
Jackson - don't know who this is but was impressed. Might make the team.
All in all, the QB situation made it difficult to really understand what is going on on offense. Iosivas needs to show he can make NFL catches, at this point he might be a liability in non-situational plays but could open up the offense if Burrow can get him open. It all depends on what the team is looking for in a fourth/fifth option. Jackson might honestly be the answer.
Two preseasons ago, Billy Price looked like a future all-pro. Its easier to look good in college but NFL teams know how to exploit weaknesses. I don't think a lot of the rookies have been tested yet. But Battle and Turner are making a lot of plays that I think a lot of teams would be happy to have. Murphy needs to be tested more, he shows promise but lacks urgency.
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Why didn't the Bengals add a proven RB in the offseason |
Posted by: impactplaya - 08-19-2023, 12:52 PM - Forum: JUNGLE NOISE
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The Bengals lost 2 safeties to free agency this year.
Of course Dax Hill his time is now to start and
they added Nick Scott from the Rams to give
Some veteran stability along side Hill.
But when Samaje Perrine departed for the Broncos
The same thinking was not applied to the RB position
The direction was to elevate Treyveon Williams to number #2 and add depth with a draft pick. (CHASE BROWN)
But Samaje Perrine had a very integral role in the Bengals
Offense that I don't think Williams or Brown is ready to
Step into.
With the value of RBs going south, the Bengals had the $$$$ to add a more seasoned replacement for Periine.
If Joe Mixon misses anytime defenses won't have a reason To load the box or even fear the run.
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PS Game 2 Thoughts |
Posted by: bfine32 - 08-19-2023, 09:20 AM - Forum: JUNGLE NOISE
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Carman has found a home at backup LT
Our #3 QB is very mobile
Jeff Gunther looks good
Charlie Jones did not
Was disappointed in the play of Zac Carter
Bo Jackson's relative had a good game and secured at least a PS position
RJ3 looked like Vonn Miller out there
The punter gig is not settled
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If You’re Concerned About the Lack of Offensive Firepower in the Preseason… |
Posted by: Fan_in_Kettering - 08-19-2023, 08:40 AM - Forum: JUNGLE NOISE
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…please don’t be.
This is how championship caliber teams run the preseason. While there may be some actual rehearsal going on, most of what we are seeing from the coaches is primarily evaluation for (1) current depth and (2) potential for the future.
What we see in the 2023 preseason guides the 2024-27 draft, free agency, and trade needs. Bad teams draft for immediate improvement that season. Great teams draft looking two or more seasons ahead.
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Chase Brown last night |
Posted by: Joelist - 08-19-2023, 01:41 AM - Forum: JUNGLE NOISE
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VERY up and down. He actually had some nice plus plays where he got yards. BUT, he was a disaster as a blocker. He actually caused two pressures and indirectly the INT by running into the back of the LT on two plays, knocking the LT out of their pass set and messing it all up.
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DT Davis |
Posted by: Sled21 - 08-17-2023, 01:02 PM - Forum: JUNGLE NOISE
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I didn't pay much attention to him in the Packers game, but Hobs sure seems to think he shined. With Topou aging his way, D. Davis may get a shot to unseat Tufele. Then again, Tufele seems to shine as well. Anybody pay much attention to his game last week? I look forward to watching him Friday.
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Bengals pass blockers ranked #2... |
Posted by: Speedy Thomas - 08-17-2023, 09:26 AM - Forum: JUNGLE NOISE
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...from the bottom.
Source is Footballguys, where I get most of my fantasy news. I don't know if they know up from applesauce about pass blocking, but they do help me win my fantasy leagues more often than not. The only starting offensive line they have rated below us in pass protection is Carolina.
I look forward to proving them way wrong. But are they?
2 - Cincinnati Bengals
Starters with pass-blocking grades:
LT Orlando Brown Jr: B+
LG Cordell Volson: C+
OC Ted Karras: C+
RG Alex Cappa: C+
RT Jonah Williams: C+
Every preseason I get the same feedback from fans: my team made this big move. So why aren't they ranked higher? The answer is always the same. Usually, when a team has to make a big move, that's a sign they weren't that good in the first place. The Bengals made a very big move this offseason, bringing in Orlando Brown Jr. from the Kansas City Chiefs via free agency. At left tackle, Brown is a top-tier run blocker and pretty good in pass protection. Brown's arrival (and Jonah Williams moving to right tackle) is the cherry on top of the Bengals' line two-year rebuild. And in the run game, there's a lot to like, ranking 16th overall.
But outside of Brown, the group has documented problems in pass blocking. Jonah Williams gave up nine sacks last season, but it should be noted he was playing with two dislocated knees. This is a testament to his toughness, but it's natural to wonder how he responds this season. At right guard, Alex Cappa is a beast in the run game and is known for his strength. But Cappa's pass protection isn't anything to write home about. The story at left guard is worse, where Cordell Volson grades out as below average, beatable in both phases. Center Ted Karras spent most of his career as a backup in New England, and while he provides veteran leadership, he's never ranked above average as a starter. La'el Collins is a talented athlete, but he's still on PUP, rehabbing an ACL tear suffered in Week 16. Yes, Orlando Brown's addition helps. But all of this adds up to a decent run-blocking group with questions at pass-blocking at four of the five starting spots.
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